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Isn't it 5?
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a storm is brewing, nora vs enel
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Who was the fourth?
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Omah was the fourth.
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Cause like Katakuri... he can split his body apart and dodge attacks?.... What the -when did Nora start flying?
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https://youtu.be/tCJPwnMGaJg?t=73CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
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Thats just propelling herself upwards...WeeklyBattles said:
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@Number Not really, she acctually has a whole other thing she does for propelling herself upwrds that involves hitting the ground like a lever to launch herself
Then again basically anyone in RWBY capable of jumping can jump to the point where its basically pseudo flight
Then again basically anyone in RWBY capable of jumping can jump to the point where its basically pseudo flight
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Eh, its more like enhanced jumping Enel zaps his way across the skies giving him the mobility advantage.WeeklyBattles said:
About the no hard feelings thing....
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It's enhanced jumping with a bit of mobility.
That's not pseudo flight.
That's not pseudo flight.
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Enel for reasons above.
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@Number RWBY characters are capable of jumping and hanging in the air for several seconds before they start to fall
Huh? I said yeah, no hard feelings
Huh? I said yeah, no hard feelings
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This is ridiculous.
Why are we discussing if someone without Haki can even Hit Enel. Luffy only could because of his DF disabled Enel's DF and then hit him with the titanic goldball when his Intang was Disabled. As long as she has no seastone, Haki or some form of material that is as Iiune to eletricity as rubber, she will not be able to hit Enel no matter what she does. And as far as I can figure out, she uses lightning as the only other means of attack.
Logia users are completely imune to their own element, so I really do not get how she is supposed to harm him.
And we do not even mention his Mantra-Abilitys, which is basically a weird version of Kenbu-Haki.
Why are we discussing if someone without Haki can even Hit Enel. Luffy only could because of his DF disabled Enel's DF and then hit him with the titanic goldball when his Intang was Disabled. As long as she has no seastone, Haki or some form of material that is as Iiune to eletricity as rubber, she will not be able to hit Enel no matter what she does. And as far as I can figure out, she uses lightning as the only other means of attack.
Logia users are completely imune to their own element, so I really do not get how she is supposed to harm him.
And we do not even mention his Mantra-Abilitys, which is basically a weird version of Kenbu-Haki.
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@Heller And yet a giant golden ball was able to hit him in his logia form...
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@Weekly. Yeah, but the Problem here is: If Gold works, then so should ANY other metal through it's conducting abilitys. We've seen Enel attacked by metal blades before and he gave no care in the world at all. Unless Enel has a highly specific weakness to gold it makes no canonical sense for the gold itself to be his weakness.
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As much as I like Nora, enough to consider her best girrl in RWBY - She loses.
Enel could just casually melt Magnhild and strike her with nonosoba while jumping around like a spider monkey on speed (especially since Nora's style relies on swinging a hammer which normally sacrifices mobility for power), his logia body would allow attacks to go pass him and leave Nora for a counter, has a WAY superior range and destructive advantage, and I have high doubts Nora could tank and absorb something on calibur of Mamaragan, Amaru, or God forbid Raigo while a simple kari could keep her hammer at bay if it could somehow touch him. Then he has foreshadowed-haki or rather Kenbunsho so he could predict oncoming attacks and can stay out of reach with his air balloon thing even if Nora tries to propel herself close enough. Plus, logically, Nora would have limited ammunition so once shes forced to fight him upclose, shes screwed. And not by Ren or Pyrrha either.
Enel could just casually melt Magnhild and strike her with nonosoba while jumping around like a spider monkey on speed (especially since Nora's style relies on swinging a hammer which normally sacrifices mobility for power), his logia body would allow attacks to go pass him and leave Nora for a counter, has a WAY superior range and destructive advantage, and I have high doubts Nora could tank and absorb something on calibur of Mamaragan, Amaru, or God forbid Raigo while a simple kari could keep her hammer at bay if it could somehow touch him. Then he has foreshadowed-haki or rather Kenbunsho so he could predict oncoming attacks and can stay out of reach with his air balloon thing even if Nora tries to propel herself close enough. Plus, logically, Nora would have limited ammunition so once shes forced to fight him upclose, shes screwed. And not by Ren or Pyrrha either.
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''when you go away for a day and come back to a discussion over obvius PIS thats make no canonical sense''
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I will vote for Enel, as his physical strength is lot stronger than Nora's at the start of this fight.
Not to mention that it is debatable that Hazel and those who scale to him are even that much stronger than Nora in the first place, so Hazel's current rating (along with Qrow) are already put into question.
Enel +1
Not to mention that it is debatable that Hazel and those who scale to him are even that much stronger than Nora in the first place, so Hazel's current rating (along with Qrow) are already put into question.
Enel +1
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Not agreeing with the current stats is not an acceptable reasoning
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It's not his main point for agreeing, his main point is, "I will vote for Enel, as his physical strength is lot stronger than Nora's at the start of this fight.".WeeklyBattles said:
Vote counts.
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Unless Nora starts off charged at the beginning of this fight its a stomp as its a 7-C vs an 8-A
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Considering that the vast majority of the posts made by you in this thread were comments about how Nora would win despite the AP difference, why are you dismissing this fight now?WeeklyBattles said:
Especially considering that you seriously thought that Nora could win this battle...
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If she starts off charged she can, ive provided more than enough evidence to prove so
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But op doesnt say she starts off charged, so that can't be used as an argument.
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@Blue Exactly my point, so its an 8-A vs a 7-C
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Ah ah ah sorry, didn't notice the other comments, of you, saying this match was a stomp. Thought you were trying to use that as an argument on why would win.
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Youre not seriously pulling the stomp card just because youre the only one voting for one character are you? You debated Nora as if she were superiprs and if your argument is added to Nora's tier she would stand a chance? I hope Im just misunderstanding this.
So whats the tally?
So whats the tally?
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At least 8-A, at least 7-B when charged. Likely higher by charging her hammerWeeklyBattles said:
sure thing bud
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If Nora starts off at 8-A she's not going to be 7-B because apparently Enel Haki spam applies to everyone but Luffy so he'll see that she'll be stronger and oneshot apparently and apparently she cant hit him even though there are times that he's been hit by things that shouldnt bypass his intangibility but did because apparently thats PIS so yes, this would be a stomp
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first, enel can predict enemy attacks, how would that stop him from attacking nora? second, characters start at theire strongest by sba, third, you cant just claim stomp when a 7b that you happen to like is about to lose, and its not like thre is no way to defeat enel for nora, it is simply unlikely. hell, she could absorb him alltogether if she got the chanse
and he was hit by a non weakness once, so i dont understand the multiple times logic
and he was hit by a non weakness once, so i dont understand the multiple times logic
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First i literally just said that, second that still doesnt change the fact that Nora cant hit him through passive intangibility, third, im not, im claiming its a stomp because its a stomp and id apreciate it if you didnt accuse me of something i didnt do. Nothing implies Nora can absorb Enel himself
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exemt the fact that he is made out of electricityWeeklyBattles said:
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and predicting attacks doesent let him know that attacking with electricity would make her stronger, nor does he have the upper hand in close combat, the only non electricity type of combat
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His Haki would let his see that and he'd know to not do something like that or to use electricity on her. His intangibility is passive, even without the upper hand she still cant hit him
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haki allows to read an opponents intention, not theire abilitiesWeeklyBattles said:
she can still absorb him
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No it allows the user to see what the opponent is going to do, its precognition.
No she cant
No she cant
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dude... no, it was explained in the series that it allows to see a persons aura and hear theyre voices the more bloodlusted they are.WeeklyBattles said:
only katakuri can see the future proper
and you fail to give me a reason why she couldent absorb a 7b (at most) electrity cinstruct
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Kenbunshoku Haki (Color of Observation or Mantra): A form of Haki that allows the user to sense the presence of his opponents. A user of this type of Haki can predict an opponent's moves before he gets hit. This works by showing the user an image or brief "premonition" of what the opponent will do, manifested as a mental image in the user's mind's eye, and the damage the user will take if the attack "hit" for real. It appears that the more killer intent the enemy has the easier they are to predict, though more efficient users can predict future moves regardless whether there are ambient murderous intents or not. Including the distance, location, and where the opponent may strike next.
If you think its different then tell that to literally everyone else on this thread, as well as Cin and the rest of the One Piece people who got precognition put on his and all the rest of the One Piece profiles.
Because she's never shown to be capable of absorbing a person made of electricity
If you think its different then tell that to literally everyone else on this thread, as well as Cin and the rest of the One Piece people who got precognition put on his and all the rest of the One Piece profiles.
Because she's never shown to be capable of absorbing a person made of electricity
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yeah, that gives them the ability to predict an oponent plan, but as you may have noticed in enerus fight, luffy hit him by spamming attackd whitout aiming or thinking. and as it itself says, it needs the oponent to have actual bloodlust and that wouldent work while she doesent even know what hes planning.
and it was with usopp that it allowed to see someones aura to snipe from half a city away, and enels fight, once again, showed that only planned attacks work for his level in haki
and it was with usopp that it allowed to see someones aura to snipe from half a city away, and enels fight, once again, showed that only planned attacks work for his level in haki
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This thread is pretty bad tbh. No Enel does have precog, however he's not Katakuri who can constantly see seconds into the future, and we don't know where Enel would fall on the Kenbunshoku Haki scale. And Nora isn't absorbing Enel, that's the same argument that people like to make with Ace / Sabo vs Natsu. Just like Ace and sabo he isn't going to let someone absorb him.
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If Enel doesnt have precog then why are people sayin he would use it and why are people saying Luffy clearing his head countered Enel's Haki.......
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If Enel doesnt have precog then why are people sayin he would use it and why are people saying Luffy clearing his head countered Enel's Haki.......
