a storm is brewing, nora vs enel

[Number1Tryhard]

Destruction is not a indecator for better electricity Nora has not demostrated the use of 200 Million Volts and your saying she has better electircity when she uses physical strength. For example we have a lightning strike that has enough power to destroy a city it does not scale it its temperature rather the force that is contained within.

Nora does use electricity though, she literally turned Hazel's own electricity back on him

Show me, and again Enel is a logia electricity/physical attacks are still useless and you have not proven a thing.

Lets see if your calc gets accepted otherwise theres no point carrying on this argument.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Number Here, Hazel's electricity is yellow, Nora's is pink. And if Enel couldnt be harmed by physical attacks then the golden ball shouldnt have done anything to him

 

[LordGinSama]

Again I never said he spams Kenbunshoku Haki. He isn't Katakuri. I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth. I said it'd help him in the match. Again never said his intangibility is passive either. Enel likes to abuse his Intangibility as shown in Skypiea, Enel was literally shocked because Luffy was able to hit him. Do not twist my words thank you.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight But he DIDNT abuse it, he literally demonstrated it once in his fight with Luffy and never used it again, not even against things that shouldnt have bypassed it like the golden ball. Enel was also shocked that Luffy was unaffected by his attacks, shocked enough to literally leave himself open to attacks, the same of which would happen when Nora starts absorbing his attacks.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also, Nora literally absorbed natural lightning in the Vytal Festival, so 200 million volts shouldnt be an issue for her at all when she absorbs 100 million volts like its nothing.

 

[LordGinSama]

..... I'm getting pretty sick of having to explain this to you. Nobody else in Skypeia other than Luffy managed to attack him. Enel was caught off guard by that Golden Bell so he couldn't reach in time. Enel was shocked at how much Luffy could take the second time around and Luffy's resistance to lightning is >>>> Nora's resistance to lightning. Again Luffy only hit him since his Intangibility is literally rendered useless against his Devil Fruit.

 

[Number1Tryhard]

@Number Here, Hazel's electricity is yellow, Nora's is pink. And if Enel couldnt be harmed by physical attacks then the golden ball shouldnt have done anything to him

Its still a PIS moment, mainly by it being illogical when Logia's bodies are always active. I really don't have to say this again mate there is nothing to go by when this moment. Luffy hurting Enel without Haki that throws out Armament Haki out the window.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight Scans?

Enel had PLENTY of time to react considering he attempted a counterattack

Please show me where Luffy absorbed and redirected a 42 megaton electrical attack when he was 8-A.

Enel's intangibility didnt work against the golden ball

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also i'd like to point out that 200,000,000 Volt Amaru is made of pure electricity, so its intangible, but it was still hit by the golden ball.

 

[LordGinSama]

This is literally getting really repetitive. Luffy is literally made of rubber and nearly immune to lightning based attacks. Meanwhile Nora can only absorb Lightning and use it to power herself. Luffy is more resistant to lightning, Nora is just more versatile with her resistance.


Again in all of Skypiea nobody hurt Enel. When attacked he'd instantly go into his Logia form. This was made useless against Luffy since his Devil is literally made to be the natural hard counter to Enel's. How many times do I need to explain this to you? It's getting old very quickly. The Golden Ball feat was both very situational and a form of Plot Induced Stupidity.

 

[ShieldsPlus]

Also, Nora literally absorbed natural lightning in the Vytal Festival, so 200 million volts shouldnt be an issue for her at all when she absorbs 100 million volts like its nothing.

Absorbing 200 million volts like nothing =/= absorbing 35,265,441,000,000 volts.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight Im not even arguing luffy hitting Enel anymore, and Nora can rediret Enel's lightning back at him so there's that.

Again, scans. The Golden Ball wasnt PIS because the form Enel was in when he got hit was literally intangible itself due to being ade of pure electricity.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Absorbing 200 million volts like nothing =/= absorbing 35,265,441,000,000 volts.

Youre right, Nora's absorption is better.

 

[Arigarmy]

200,000,000

35,265,441,000,000

you either didnt clarify enough or you didnt see the bigger number my dude

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Also there's the fact that Enel has that Haki which allows him to predict the enemy so... uh... yeah....

Anyway Enel FRA

Also no one pull the "suddenly it's a stomp" card here alright?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh no i did, and i stand by what i said. Even if they dont want to accept the calc for Hazel's volt output, even a weaker Nora was able to absorb almost the exact same amount othat Enel is capable of producing with no ill effects whatsoever.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also there's the fact that Enel has that Haki which allows him to predict the enemy so... uh... yeah....
Anyway Enel FRA

Also no one pull the "suddenly it's a stomp" card here alright?

And yet he hasnt used it in combat

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Anyways, im voting for Nora, her electricity absorption would make her more durable than what he's capable of dishing out, she' more than capable of absorbing any of his electrical attacks, and she can literally turn his eletricity back on him but stronger if she cant hit him with her physical attacks

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually if this is nora at her strongest (Pre-charged) then she's already much stronger than Enel, and his electricity will just amp her further

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

To point out.

Nora's lightning won't affect Enel.

Nora's regular attacks won't affect Enel.

She doesn't have the equivalent of what Luffy did of sending his attacks everywhere and having them shoot out everywhere.

Also by the way, Luffy who can tank about any sort of electric attack Enel had? Still had massive trouble with the heat based attacks. Also I don't see a reason to why Enel won't be able to melt Nora's weapon.


Oh and to add on... Aura is limited. Enel won't tire out. And one of them can technically fly around and has such a massive mobility advantage.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@CoB Nora's lightning affeted Hazel, it will affect Enel. She can just turn his on lightning back on him

His intangibility isnt passive so yes they will

Because its protected by her Aura

Nora can fly using Maginhild

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually CoB may be right, would a fight between a 7-C and an 8-A be added?

 

[Omahariptic]

To me the arguments for Enel make more sense so I'm gonna be voting for him FRA. Since when has Magnhild been protected by Nora's Aura?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

To me the arguments for Enel make more sense so I'm gonna be voting for him FRA. Since when has Magnhild been protected by Nora's Aura?

Since always, all weapons in RWBY are protected by Aura

 

[Omahariptic]

Don't remember that tbh.

 

[LordGinSama]

Actually Weekly I looked at the Manga and Enel was indeed intangible during the Golden Rifle strike. I don't know how it was bypassed but I'm assuming it's plot induced stupidity.




We use the manga as the official source not the anime. Lightning still wouldn't effect Enel. Meanwhile Enel has other ways of dealing with Nora ( I.E using his Staff to burn her to hell or simply transmutting it on her.) And Nora can keep up forever. Her Semblance is on a short time limit until it goes away, Nora will be 8-A and then Enel one shots.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight I know, thats what ive been saying, glad you finally decided to listen

How would transmuting his staff on her help? And yeah, until he hits her with electrical attacks again and revamps it.

 

[LordGinSama]

My dude you've been saying he wasn't intangible. Which he was, how Luffy effected him I'm unsure. So it's best to call it a moment of PIS.


You act like Enel is stupid. He isn't going to keep zapping her with lightning he'll do what he did with Luffy and start using his weapons. Hmmm let's see he can wrap it around one of her limbs to slow her down and burn her as Aura user's still feel the sensation of pain and heat. Also here's Enel using Kenbunshoku in Combat. He stopped using it after Luffy started attacking without thinking.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Never once did i say he couldnt be intangible, look throughout all of my responses. I said he didnt ACTIVATE his intangibility, not that he couldnt become intangible.

Dude, he literally hit Luffy with multiple electrical attacks despite seeing that they had no effect on her. Given her lifting strength its not going to slow her down at all.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Speaking of which, why is Luffy Class M+ for a feat that is only mid Class K?

 

[LordGinSama]

That literally makes zero sense. You said he didn't activate his intangibility? Just proved you wrong. He was already in his intangible state, Luffy just forced him out.



yes before Enel realized his elemental attacks were useless. After that he stopped and uses his other tactics. So it's pretty simple. Enel zapps her a few times, catches on then stops for awhile and waits for her to weaken. After that he uses his trident to beat her. And I'm pretty sure Nora doesn't have better lifting strength than Luffy.

 

[ShieldsPlus]

I still question how Nora was able to even survive a single blow from Hazel in the first place, along with Ren.

Especially since Hazel's strike blew away Qrow, but Qrow managed to take it.

And then Hazel struck Ren hard in the chest, and Ren got hit with an extra attack, but he still managed to survive that as well.

The fact of the matter is, Qrow's durability cannot be that much greater than Ren's, due to the fact that Hazel's attacks managed to affect Qrow/Ren almost equally upon striking them.

As for how the above comments relates to this battle? It means that Nora (who scales to Ren), cannot be that much less physically durable in comparison to Qrow, who took serious damage from Hazel's attacks, but manage to survive it.

So physically, Ren/Qrow/Nora are somewhat comparable in durability to each other, for the most part.

This would only mean that Enel, who is already at least Small Town level physically, is going to batter around Nora with just physical attacks. As for Enel's electrical attacks? Let's just say that Nora has never tried to absorb/absorbed an electrical attack coming from a character as strong as Enel before...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He forced him out with an attack that shouldnt have been able to bypass his intangibility.

Yeah, and by then Nora will have absorbed more than enough electricity to be superior to him. He stands there slack jawed at why this random girl is able to shrug off his attacks, starts questioning himself, and gets a hammer to the gut.

She does actually, she's superior to Ruby's Class M feat while Luffy's current justification only puts him at Class K

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Khris Because Nora absorbed his eletricity. Without the amp he manhandled her easily.

Yes she has, and she succeeded, Hazel >>>>>>>>>> Enel

 

[ShieldsPlus]

That is, if Nora could even manage to trade blows physically with Enel in the first place.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Without being amped she cant unless she is staring out pre-amped

 

[LordGinSama]

Ok then let's just call it PIS and get it over with.


Again Weekly he isn't going to get into the same situation as Luffy. Luffy was literally completely immune to his attacks Nora is just resistant. And Luffy bypassed his intangibility, Nora isn't doing the Same so that Hammer is gonna phase through him.


Isn't Ruby's feat literally 141 tons? Meanwhile Luffy's is a casual 700? He literally climbed up a massive stock and used the Golden Ball as a weapon.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight Of course the evidence that Nora can hit Enel is PIS

And? Whats the difference? Luffy shrugged off because it didnt affect him, Nora will be shrugging it off because she's absorbing it, i see no reason why he wouldnt react the same way. And why wouldnt his own lightning damage him if its being returned stronger.

Ruby lifted 3589 tons and Nora is stronger than her, Luffy only lifted 700, which is a Class K lifting feat.

 

[ShieldsPlus]

@Khris Because Nora absorbed his eletricity. Without the amp he manhandled her easily.
Yes she has, and she succeeded, Hazel >>>>>>>>>> Enel

You still haven't answered why both Ren and Qrow took similar amounts of damage from Dust Hazel's blows, despite one of them being drastically stronger in comparison to the other.

The durability gap right now between Ren and Qrow is so large that if one of them even took serious damage from Hazel's blow, the other one would have been out of commission, if not completely dead. But Ren managed to get up from that blow just fine.

I don't think that Hazel > Enel, considering that Qrow and Ren/Nora are physically somewhat comparable to each other.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Khris PIS most likely.

Look at their pages. Hazel is 7-B, Enel is 7-C. Hazel is stronger than Enel. Qrow is vastly above Ren and an Unamped Nora