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a match that i dont care what happens with it

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Goku Black (DBS Anime)

Zamasu was once the Supreme Kai apprentice under Gowasu of Universe 10, who developed a loathing for mortals as he witnessed their actions across the universe, leading him to embark on a crusade against mortals after stealing the body of Son Goku using the Super Dragon Balls, gaining the title...
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Arale Norimaki

Arale Norimaki may refer to: The character from Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump Arale Norimaki from Dr. Slump Arale Norimaki from Dragon Ball (Games)
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just to say i dont really care about what happens to this thread im just more interested about the fight
 
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Nullflowerblush said:
Yea, I don't buy that "Goku Black is the strongest non-fused character" director commentary bullshit when we see Goku overpower Fusion Zamasu in a beam struggle and then knock him around with his kicks. Unless fusing with Zamasu weakened Black, ain't buying it.
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So we are Just gonna ignore the part where Goku Black was overpowering both Goku and Vegeta combined just moments before fusing
 
Are we just gonna ignore the part where Goku overpowers Fusion Zamasu and then kicks him around, even after previously straining himself?

Again, the only possible way to counter this is by claiming that fusing with Zamasu somehow weakened Goku Black. You would be wrong though, because there is no way to explain how a Potara Fusion would end up weakening one of the participants, and Goku's claim about Mr. Satan is not evidence.
 
KaiserKnez said:
Black's clones are a nice advantage utility to him, making it as a cover to Black's Zenkai. And then there is the temporal cut, which brings more and more clones continuously. I don't think that Arale can handle with this.
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Arale would knock him off of the planet before he could do anything like create a Sickle of Sorrow. Along with that, it is not in-character for Black to just create one of those from the get-go. The only reason he did so in the first place was because he saw how rage affected Vegeta's Power Level and wanted to experiment with his anger.

In-character, Black would attempt to battle Arale normally, like how he approached Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks. However, in-character, Arale would just bully him and then knock him into space or something of that level of absurdity. Black is not equipped mentally to keep up with her.
Rez said:
Goku uses kaioken here
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Goku uses Kaio-ken in order to break free of Zamasu's electric grasp.
Everything before that was Goku in basic Super Saiyan Blue.
Rez said:
unlike black didn't use the one thing that would have easily gave him a big advantage over Goku his sickle of sorrow
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Guys. The Sickle of Sorrow does not boost his power. He can just create rifts with it. Were you under the impression that Black can just whip out the Sickle and suddenly become a thousand-times more powerful, closing the gap between him and Arale? Because that is not how that works at all.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Guys. The Sickle of Sorrow does not boost his power. He can just create rifts with it. Were you under the impression that Black can just whip out the Sickle and suddenly become a thousand-times more powerful, closing the gap between him and Arale? Because that is not how that works at all.
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No it helps him creates clones with regen that's how he overpowered both Goku and Vegeta
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Arale would knock him off of the planet before he could do anything like create a Sickle of Sorrow. Along with that, it is not in-character for Black to just create one of those from the get-go. The only reason he did so in the first place was because he saw how rage affected Vegeta's Power Level and wanted to experiment with his anger.

In-character, Black would attempt to battle Arale normally, like how he approached Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks. However, in-character, Arale would just bully him and then knock him into space or something of that level of absurdity. Black is not equipped mentally to keep up with her.

Goku uses Kaio-ken in order to break free of Zamasu's electric grasp.
Everything before that was Goku in basic Super Saiyan Blue.

Guys. The Sickle of Sorrow does not boost his power. He can just create rifts with it. Were you under the impression that Black can just whip out the Sickle and suddenly become a thousand-times more powerful, closing the gap between him and Arale? Because that is not how that works at all.
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This is a matter of script.

You think that Goku would think in use Kaioken during the clones' fight?

It is precisely these rifts that allow Black to defeat the little girl.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Yeah, I get that Grotesque Fusion Zamasu is more powerful than Goku; he battled Vegito Blue, so of course.
Goku still overpowered base Fusion Zamasu.
guys c'mon. everything i even mention this, i link the scene in question.

EDIT: Where did the x20 come from?
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I'm pretty sure fusion zamasu was only caught off guard when that happened, he was kind of underestimating Goku because he's so arrogant and didn't think that goku could possibly touch him and then his he went into his grotesque form and got mad when that happened and that's when he went all out, or else that would mean Goku scales to blue vegito which is obviously false.
 
Zamasu was massively holding back during the intial fight against Goku, Vegeta and Trunks.

His extreme arrogance, combined with Goku and Vegeta and Trunks all breaking their limits against him, caused him to be caught off guard by them

We also saw Fused Zamasu powering up massively before Vegito is reborn, with Gowasu directly stating that they'll need much greater power than Goku and Vegeta could do on their own

Also, Fused Zamasu was in his Half-Corrupted form since Goku hit him with the limit broken Kamehameha, where Kaioken Goku kicks Zamasu away and harms him, which proves the form has nothing to do with Zamasu's strength. As I said, Fused Zamasu was holding back massively and all signs point to that, unless you want to say that SSB Goku = SSB Vegito or something similar
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Zamasu was massively holding back during the intial fight against Goku, Vegeta and Trunks.
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Zamasu was actively pooling power into his attack and struggling to keep Goku at bay.
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
His extreme arrogance, combined with Goku and Vegeta and Trunks all breaking their limits against him, caused him to be caught off guard by them
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"Caught off-guard"? He was engaged in the struggle. This is not some Cell Games situation, where Vegeta managed to distract him. Zamasu was fully aware of the situation, fully aware of how powerful Goku was at the time, and fully aware of how powerful he was at the time.

He tried to overpower Goku, kept him locked in a clash, and then was overpowered when Goku unleashed his "full power". Zamasu was overpowered.
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
We also saw Fused Zamasu powering up massively
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YEAH, he POWERED UP.
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Also, Fused Zamasu was in his Half-Corrupted form since Goku hit him with the limit broken Kamehameha
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No, he entered his Half-Corrupted/Grotesque form after Goku kicked him around. His Half-Corrupted form is the state he is in after mutating and being struck by the Light of Justice. His goopy face after being overpowered by Goku was just a result of being that damaged by the attack.
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
unless you want to say that SSB Goku = SSB Vegito
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Again, Grotesque Fusion Zamasu >>>>>> Fusion Zamasu.
Vegito Blue >= Grotesque Fusion Zamasu >>>>>> SSB Goku > Fusion Zamasu.
 
In case you need more proof that Goku dominated Fusion Zamasu in this episode...
悟空のかめはめ波と合体ザマスの絶対のいかずちの衝突により、悟空の両腕の骨は折れてしまっていた。

The collision of Goku's Kamehameha Wave and the Absolute Lightning of the combined Zamasu had left the bones in Goku's arms broken. Still, Goku rushes forward with all his might, attacks, and succeeds in shattering the halo of the combined Zamasu. At that moment, something happened to Zamasu's body.
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Nullflowerblush said:
Zamasu was actively pooling power into his attack and struggling to keep Goku at bay.

YEAH, he POWERED UP.
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He still held back. Just like how the Spirit Bomb overpowered 50% Frieza, but that doesn't mean it's stronger than his full power (and it's not)

Same thing with Zamasu. Goku overpowered the power that Zamasu used against them, as he didn't think he needed any more power than that, and after Goku harmed him, then he unleashed his full power by powering up before fighting Vegito. And if you'll look in the scene, you'll see that Zamasu powers up BEFORE his arm became corrupted too
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Actually, his final key is the one with the Sickle of Sorrow, in which he immediately used it against Vegeta to slice him with it and also cut spacetime with it
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His final key is just Super Saiyan Rosé. If he had a Sickle of Sorrow key, this would be different, but again...
Nullflowerblush said:
Along with that, it is not in-character for Black to just create one of those from the get-go. The only reason he did so in the first place was because he saw how rage affected Vegeta's Power Level and wanted to experiment with his anger.

In-character, Black would attempt to battle Arale normally, like how he approached Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks. However, in-character, Arale would just bully him and then knock him into space or something of that level of absurdity. Black is not equipped mentally to keep up with her.
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