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Youpi's Rage Blast - The Finale
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If CloverDragon agrees, I think it's fine.Damage has evaluated my calculation, and it was approved. Is it fine to substitute the calculation from the verse page then?
I think GodlyCharmander's calc for Netero may fall under that but I'll double-check.Would you be willing to tell me which Calculation on the verse page involves calc stacking? I'm planning on a downgrade CRT soon, so it would really help me to have this information
I'll happily take an apology if you feel in the mood, considering that the manga itself contradicts your "established size" for Pitou's En in that scene.God damn, only he could somehow call an established size not correct. Fine, but I'm doing my own pixelscaling of the scene then
So should we downgrade netero's feat and while we at it remove the gon calc that uses 1/220 timeframe?I think GodlyCharmander's calc for Netero may fall under that but I'll double-check.
Also.... I know we've already moved on from the Pitou discussion, but just to bring up one last factor that may be relevant... Pitou was about 500 meters away from the palace. Not 2000 meters away.
I'm really glad I found this page because some of you guys were considering me crazy for not accepting that Pitou's En was 2000 meters long in that scene.
So should we downgrade netero's feat and while we at it remove the gon calc that uses 1/220 timeframe?
I think I know which one you mean. I was looking through them yesterday and it was really the only one that appeared to CS.I think GodlyCharmander's calc for Netero may fall under that but I'll double-check.
Now that's an irrefutable debunk. I missed it because I was reading japanese colored (for visuals only)Also.... I know we've already moved on from the Pitou discussion, but just to bring up one last factor that may be relevant... Pitou was about 500 meters away from the palace. Not 2000 meters away.
I'm really glad I found this page because some of you guys were considering me crazy for not accepting that Pitou's En was 2000 meters long in that scene.
Damage has evaluated my calculation, and it was approved. Is it fine to substitute the calculation from the verse page then?
@CloverDragon03If CloverDragon agrees, I think it's fine.
I think I know at least one he means. The greed island gon eye blitz calc.Would you be willing to tell me which Calculation on the verse page involves calc stacking? I'm planning on a downgrade CRT soon, so it would really help me to have this information
Funny enough, it was @CloverDragon03 themself.@CloverDragon03
Also, which calc group member(s) approved our currently used calculation blog for this feat/these feats?
Yeah, that's what I was referring toIt's not that one. This has an inaccurate eye sight timeframe, I'll be removing it after making a new calc for Yorkshin level characters.
I've evaluated it. It looks good to me@CloverDragon03
Also, which calc group member(s) approved our currently used calculation blog for this feat/these feats?
Yup. I still maintain my logic was sound - but this page would have made all the discussion redundant if only I had found it sooner, lol.Now that's an irrefutable debunk. I missed it because I was reading japanese colored (for visuals only)
Thanks.Grrreat, I'll be applying it to the verse page and Youpi's page respectively.
Other than this implied superiority, we also have the fact that Meruem's stats in Togashi's guides are too high to be measured, while Pitou - his strongest guard - is measurable.I don't think that just "Meruem is superior to Youpi" is enough to justify the upscaling here. Unfortunately their only interactions was a casual smacking from Meruem but I would just give him an "At least X" rating for scaling to Youpi rather than upscaling.
Meruem was unaware of Neferpitou's strength, he then adjusted it to casually smack the other guards, working against the more physically durable Youpi far better. He also threatened to one shot Shaiapouf.(Also, a hit from Meruem with intent to kill didn't one-shot Pitou, so that's further evidence against him completely upscaling here)
True - but regarding killing Shaiapouf, that would presumably be without Shaiapouf defending himself in any way since he was voluntarily going to his death. You or I could "one-shot" another person under the right conditions such as if they weren't defending themselves.Meruem was unaware of Neferpitou's strength, he then adjusted it to casually smack the other guards, working against the more physically durable Youpi far better. He also threatened to one shot Shaiapouf.
That is fair enough.True - but regarding killing Shaiapouf, that would presumably be without Shaiapouf defending himself in any way since he was voluntarily going to his death. You or I could "one-shot" another person under the right conditions such as if they weren't defending themselves.
That's arguable. At least in Pitou and Adult Gon's case. I can't find the exact statement at this moment but there's a panel where Kurapika is talking about Nen condition and he says something along the lines of "You could increase your power by anywhere from 2 to 10 times over, maybe even more". Like I said Ill need to find the quote but this would definitely justify the upscale in Pitou's and Gon's caseI don't think that just "Meruem is superior to Youpi" is enough to justify the upscaling here. Unfortunately their only interactions was a casual smacking from Meruem but I would just give him an "At least X" rating for scaling to Youpi rather than upscaling.
(Also, a hit from Meruem with intent to kill didn't one-shot Pitou, so that's further evidence against him completely upscaling here)
If we had something as explicit as this we'd have it applied already.That's arguable. At least in Pitou and Adult Gon's case. I can't find the exact statement at this moment but there's a panel where Kurapika is talking about Nen condition and he says something along the lines of "You could increase your power by anywhere from 2 to 10 times over, maybe even more". Like I said Ill need to find the quote but this would definitely justify the upscale in Pitou's and Gon's case
That right there is enough info for an upscale as isIf we had something as explicit as this we'd have it applied already.
No, the line was said by Kurapika's master, and it said that a condition can increase the potency of an ability or power output exponentially, which we consider as "at least 2".
Found itIf we had something as explicit as this we'd have it applied already.
No, the line was said by Kurapika's master, and it said that a condition can increase the potency of an ability or power output exponentially, which we consider as "at least 2".
It's post mortem nenThere isn't. Pitou isn't under a Nen Condition or Contract, neither is Meruem. Adult Gon is, but that's relative to his base form which is far below High 7-C.
Found it
This should be enough evidence to at least maintain the current upscaling, considering the condition was literally her death
No one scales to Post-Mortem Pitou other than Adult Gon's Jajanken ,she sliced through Adult Gon's arm like butter (although seemingly Gon let her) and the latter had to incapacitate her to finish her offIt's post mortem nen
Reading comprehension, just one panel before he was talking about conditions and the next panel he is describing how an ability "Even a basic one" can get that much more powerful after using conditions. This is why he says there's a vast difference between Nen users and non Nen users. He then says "Therefore this creates a vast difference in battle power" ""Therefore"" of course referencing the ability multiplication given by conditions he previously stated.The statement is about people getting Nen in general. A Non-Nen user gets many times or even tenfold his usual power when he gets even the most basic Nen ability. This isn't usable for anyone.
By the way, "could" and "will" are two different statements, as we learned today.
No one scales to Post-Mortem Pitou other than Adult Gon's Jajanken ,she sliced through Adult Gon's arm like butter (although seemingly Gon let her) and the latter had to incapacitate her to finish her off
Furthermore, the conditions only gave her commands to make her corpse change the threats to the king until she couldn't move.
We're not debating this here, thread is over. Could and will are still very different words.Reading comprehension, just one panel before he was talking about conditions and the next panel he is describing how an ability "Even a basic one" can get that much more powerful after using conditions. This is why he says there's a vast difference between Nen users and non Nen users. He then says "Therefore this creates a vast difference in battle power" ""Therefore"" of course referencing the ability multiplication given by conditions he previously stated.
And who exactly told you Machi was physically stronger than Killua?Also Gon is 100% above Post-Mortem Nen Pitou. Like you said he could have let her do it, but also Piercing damage is a thing in this verse. Killua was able to harm Machi with a technique almost exactly like Pitou's even though she was more powerful than him at the time. There's also the fact that he stopped a full power charge from her corpse with a punch, no JaJanken included. So there's no debate that Adult Gon > Post-Mortem Pitou.
YeaAll this discussion about Post-Mortem Nen and Conditions sounds like it belongs in another thread. Not here.
If the calc has been added, shall this thread be closed?
Everyone knows that official translation tend to omit or even mistranslate certain info. I'm not saying this is the case here but the site my translation is from *********** has been known to translate more accurately than the official Viz translation. I will bring this up to a translator before I make a CRT or debate thoAlso it's generally better to look at official translations. This one clarifies that it just means a Nen user is many times stronger than a non-Nen user.
So what is currently left to do here?