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A discussion on Youpi's Rage Blast calcs (Hunter x Hunter)
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TioKill
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Weird angle is weird. Not sure we can measure that one.
Yeah, I got 21.9m from that. Sadge.
Doesn't seem a good one to use, Pitou is drawn as a stick figure for the funni.
Either way, even at 21m, we get a crater of 117m.
I get 21.7m when comparing Meruem to it as well, using his estimated height of 169cm (Estimated by the community).
We can use that, right?
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Okay. No problem. Thank you for helping out.
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I don't have a problem with that, though it also depends on which overhead shot you're using.
This one results in a diameter of 91.3 meters by my estimate:
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He is right tho? On all points.
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Eh, let's not get back into it. We're moving forward on this topic, not backwards.
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Well, if you agree, then we will adjust the calcs. Between the three panels, I believe the middle one (where both are seeing the same same "dimension" horizontally) is the best one, since it had the best angle.I don't have a problem with that, though it also depends on which overhead shot you're using.
This one results in a diameter of 91.3 meters by my estimate:
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The new pixel scaling is fine. Once the calc is adjusted, I’ll evaluate it
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I believe that the crater depth should also be pixelscaled instead of using 18% or 25% of the crater's diameter.
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Depends on if you can get a good shot of it
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If the issue is the cut-off portion of the crater, that can be taken into account like this:
TioKill
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Oh no, the angle is apparently not suited for an accurate measurement according to @CloverDragon03If the issue is the cut-off portion of the crater, that can be taken into account like this:
Triangulation involves slight assumption (assuming an elavation), but it should give us an accurate result.
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I could be wrong on that tbh, I thought it was weird but that might've been a personal thing
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Using simple triangulation, given radius is 60.5m, and the angle of elevation a reasonable 20°, the height comes off as 22.3m. That is considerably less than 0.25x the diameter.
Personally, the elevation seems very narrow, so anything above 20-25° feels incorrect on paper.
Calculating the pixel on the crater size seems to give off results around 15-17m? Given how the angle is not perfect for this measurement (and I mean that objectively), the height will certainly be hindered.
Personally, the elevation seems very narrow, so anything above 20-25° feels incorrect on paper.
Calculating the pixel on the crater size seems to give off results around 15-17m? Given how the angle is not perfect for this measurement (and I mean that objectively), the height will certainly be hindered.
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Pixel scaling is probably best since the angle isn't exactly perfect here
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Ugh, back again to assuming heights I seeHey! We've reached an agreement. Please refer to these pixelscalings.
Meruem is using his estimated size of 169cm (also used for other calculations involving him).
We should adjust them accordingly.
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If the issue is the cut-off portion of the crater, that can be taken into account like this:
Youpi's crater re-update (Hunter x Hunter)
vsbattles.fandom.com
I have updated the calculation.
The reason why it's still at such level is because the old calculator provided by @CloverDragon03 used the radius of the full sphere, instead of the cap base radius. Meaning even the 387 KT result was likely Low 7-B. I have adjusted this with Omni Calculator. Please, if you could evaluate it.
TioKill
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When it was favoring your Youpi height I didn't see you complaining. Meruem has an estimated height widely accepted in the Hunter x Hunter fandom, since he's obviously short than your average male, let's not get preachy over this very solid estimate (which we currently accept as valid since past calcs have used it).
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So are we not going with explosion crater dimension anymore?Youpi's crater re-update (Hunter x Hunter)
I have updated the calculation.
The reason why it's still at such level is because the old calculator provided by @CloverDragon03 used the radius of the full sphere, instead of the cap base radius. Meaning even the 387 KT result was likely Low 7-B. I have adjusted this with Omni Calculator. Please, if you could evaluate it.
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Obviously Meruem's height Is WAY more consistent than Youpi's I'm fine with using it over the old Youpi size.
But we have not 1 but 2 Instances of Pitou using here EN which has an ESTABLISHED LENGTH OF 2 KILOMETERS. Not only that but it's already used for one of the accepted calc on the HxH page. There was no problem then, so why is there one now?
Another thing is that in that image Meruem is in the foreground, while the tower is in the background. I don't need to tell you that instances like that result in people appearing alot bigger than they should. Even though he is very small in this picture it does not mean that this effect does not take place
Everything else I am perfectly fine with especially scrapping Depth to Radius crater sizes. However I still feel that the overhead shot which is closer to 90 degrees is the best option for finding said depth.
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Don't assume that just because something on the verse page that means there are no issues with it. Revisions happen all the time to remove something that was accepted years ago.
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I get that, But explain your reasoning why her En is not 2 Kilometers and the best way to find the size of the crater
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In fairness though, that'd be for its own CRT. You can't just arbitrarily remove things in an irrelevant CRT, that's not how the process goes.
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Never said I was removing anything in my comment, did I?
EDIT: Incidentally, I've spotted some calc stacking in one of the calcs on the verse page. I'll make a separate CRT for that.
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I'm gonna go see If I can find any other shots where we get a good view of the crater depth.
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No, just saying that what's currently accepted is what's typically viable for use without such a CRT. At least, that's how I'm fairly sure it works anyway
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Meruem is literally leaving the tower in this scene, brother.
Also, nope. We're not going back to Pitou's En. @Damage3245 pointed out significant contradictions to the one where she's using it upwards, and still disagrees with the first instance. I'm fine with this method. Damage is fine with it. Clover is fine with it.
You'd have to convince Damage yourself.
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No not that, I meant the 0.25 diameter/depth ratio shit. I'm perfectly fine with that going if that the case
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God damn, only he could somehow call an established size not correct. Fine, but I'm doing my own pixelscaling of the scene then
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Youpi's crater re-update (Hunter x Hunter)
I have updated the calculation.
The reason why it's still at such level is because the old calculator provided by @CloverDragon03 used the radius of the full sphere, instead of the cap base radius. Meaning even the 387 KT result was likely Low 7-B. I have adjusted this with Omni Calculator. Please, if you could evaluate it.
Will post an evaluation when I wake up tomorrow. Heading off for now.
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