Geralt vs Snake

[SpookyShadow]

One of my favorite match ups

• MGS4 Snake at his finest is used (picture of MGS2 Snake because it's not withered old man), his 8-A weapons are restricted. Blood and Wine Geralt.

• Speed is equalized

• Geralt's AP with Euphoria is somewhat above 6.65 tons, can be amplified with potions. Snake scales to Volgi's 23.55 tons, so it's a less than 3.54 AP difference, no one-shot happens.

• Geralt has one hour of preparation with potions.

• Honorable battle (both are pretty honorable to be honest so it's in character), but willing to kill.
• Distance is 25 meters, fight happens on safari

Who wins?



Geralt: 8
Snake: 1

Inconclusive:

 

[M3X_2.0]

No

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

What does snake start off with?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This is gonna go well.

 

[SpookyShadow]

What does snake start off with?

Basically weapons and CQC

 

[KLOL506]

So basically Marine vs Witcher but this time Snake is stronger by around 3.43x.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Would Snake survive piercing cold? It's a bit OOC I guess, but it's still an option.

 

[M3X_2.0]

His suit protect him against cold I think

 

[KLOL506]

Prolly not since even people in full snow-clothing and cyclops get affected by it

Yrden would also work wonders

Axii won't work because Psycho Mantis exists

 

[SpookyShadow]

Maybe. Skull Suit protects him from some extreme cold.

 

[KLOL506]

Piercing Cold is internal freezing tho

 

[M3X_2.0]

I mean, protect against cold, but not the ice that will cover the suit and maybe slow him down

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Yea Axii will be useless here. Piercing Cold, even if resisted, will at least do some damage imo.

To me they seem pretty comparable skill wise, but in CQC Snake will have an advantage because he's a decent bit stronger.

Yrden might even the odds with its stat debuffs.

This is a great fight! Good one, SpookyShadow.

 

[SpookyShadow]

And they tried to imply on Discord that Geralt won't damage Snake ;_;

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well, Snake is indeed stronger but it wouldn't matter since in a QCQ Geralt will use Yrden to slow him down, and get an advantage.

Snake can be stronger, but Geralt is faster here.

 

[KLOL506]

Hax, so

 

[KLOL506]

Speed is equalized but Yrden would definitely slow down and debuff Snake enough for Geralt to overwhelm him

 

[M3X_2.0]

And Geralt has prep, so he will use potions to increase his speed too

 

[SpookyShadow]

The problem is, if Snake grabs Geralt in CQC... he won't break out and probably will break him arm with knee

 

[M3X_2.0]

Or Geralt use Aard and send Snake flying

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

My vote goes to Geralt due to overall better skill set and arsenal (signs and a fuckton of explosives).

 

[Twellas]

location is very important here, what do you mean by "safari"?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Some very generic safari, like this

 

[Twellas]

Also, wouldn't it be kinda dishonourable to just throw a debuff on your opponent like that?

And just so you know, I'm currently working on adding some abilities to MGS and one of these is instinctive reactions for Snake

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

And just so you know, I'm currently working on adding some abilities to MGS and one of these is instinctive reaactions for Snake

Yay! But on why reasons tho?

 

[Twellas]

you mean why? Well, there's stuff like him dodging a bullet he couldn't have seen coming from Sniper Wolf or avoiding the guard while in the DARPA chief's cell in Twin Snakes, and in MGS4 he straight up tells Otacon that "his body reacts naturally" when he's approached by an enemy soldier

 

[SpookyShadow]

 

[Twellas]

The first thing Snake is gonna do when he engages Geralt is gonna be disharming him, which he's gonna be able to do, I don't know what would happen next because i don't know Geralt well enough but it would probably be something along the lines of blasting Snake away to put some distance between them

 

[Twellas]

That is, if Geralt even can blast off characters stronger than himself

 

[SpookyShadow]

He can, he did throughout the series. He even used Aard against Djinn

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

With that difference in Lifting strength I very much doubt Geralt will send Snake away and Snake just needs to grap him once to break everything he can

 

[SpookyShadow]

Aard already kinda works against a character with Class M

 

[Twellas]

yeaah, that's the deal. CQC is all about grappling and Snake is stronger than Geralt and has a ridiculous lifting strength advantage, Geralt will be caught off guard by a martial art (it's actually a mixture of a fuckton of martial arts but whatever) that is nothing like anything he's ever seen or heard of

 

[SpookyShadow]

It now depends on the skill if Geralt gets grabbed. I believe Snake and Geralt are both around the same level within their respective verses, Geralt is a swordsman so grappling will be hard for Snake to pull off

 

[Twellas]

The sword is gonna come off immediately, CQC is also very big on disharming your opponent

 

[SpookyShadow]

I know Snake knows how to deal with swords, but Geralt is superior to the ninja cyborgs in MGS1/MGS4 when it comes to combat skill. Jack in Rising might be the only who comes close in any way, and I still doubt it. And Geralt is really good when it comes to dodging and parrying, and usually uses his Igni and Aard signs, sometimes Yrden and Heliotrope.

 

[Twellas]

is he tho? Gray Fox is about as skilled as Snake himself and he was also considered to be a perfect soldier during his Fox Hound days, he's very good, most likely better than any human swordsman. The fact that Geralt won't know what is happening sure doesn't help, because there's no way he has ever even heard of something even remotely close to CQC in his when

 

[SpookyShadow]

Unfortunately Gray doesn't have as good feats as Geralt, and Snake defeated him in MGS1 even though he was physically inferior.

 

[Twellas]

Let's not forget the fact that Gray WANTED to have his shit kicked in, was Snake's ally and was EXTREMELY mentally unstable at the time

 

[SpookyShadow]

Well fair enough, but we should not forget the fact that Gray Fox doesn't have as much swordplay experience and prowess as a swordsman as Geralt. But I didn't play MGS1 so can't tell if his feats were crazy back then, but I don't remember anything that good.