8-B Tournament Round 1, Match 4 (Remade): Gaara vs Shinobu Kocho

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Being consumed =/= being injected into the bloodstream, real life venom is usually one or the other. For example, snake poison is safe to drink. Plus, wisteria isn't deadly anyway, it's just gonna make you sick.

I concede the poison playing a role then. If it did it will likely take hours for symptoms to appear.

Uh, no? That's not the default assumption and KnY aura never works on people who wouldn't have a very real reason to be afraid of the user, as far as I know.

From the Fear Manipulation page:

It should be noted simply terrorizing the opponent either by authority, strength or demeanour only would qualify as Social Influencing, as Fear Manipulation would allow the user to inflict fear regardless of these factors.

Technically they would have a reason to be afraid, since being affected by the aura is a sign that they are significantly weaker, but this does not mean that the aura affected them because they previously figured out that they are weaker.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

To be honest that "Shinobu can't cut necks" shit is the most ridiculous thing in the verse apart from Demon Tanjiro

She literally managed to cut Doma's body open and throw him against the wall

I'm pretty sure that this was Shinobu piercing Doma and pushing him against the ceiling. Her sword is designed to pierce and inject poison, so I don't think that she can slash with it well.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I'm pretty sure that this was Shinobu piercing Doma and pushing him against the ceiling.

Wow big diference

 

[Armorchompy]

tbf a demon's neck is the toughest part of its body

From the Fear Manipulation page:

It should be noted simply terrorizing the opponent either by authority, strength or demeanour only would qualify as Social Influencing, as Fear Manipulation would allow the user to inflict fear regardless of these factors.

Technically they would have a reason to be afraid, since being affected by the aura is a sign that they are significantly weaker, but this does not mean that the aura affected them because they previously figured out that they are weaker.

uh, the fact that we list it as Fear Manip doesn't change how it actually works. It's literally just flexing your power to the enemy, and basically every skilled combatant in KnY manages to ignore it anyway

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Wow big diference

It certainly is different from cutting and walls.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

This battle would be fairier (this is a word?) If It was any other pillar

 

[Nehz_XZX]

This battle would be fairier (this is a word?) If It was any other pillar

Fairer would be the word.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It certainly is different from cutting and walls.

Yes, no real difference. If you know the scene you know what I'm talking about, you don't need "Urh, it's not a wall, it's a ceiling".

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Fairer would be the word.

Tks

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Yes, no real difference. If you know the scene you know what I'm talking about, you don't need "Urh, it's not a wall, it's a ceiling".

It still means that you were inaccurate and pointing that out was the purpose of my comment. It makes no difference to me how significant you find the difference between a wall and a ceiling.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Tks

You're welcome.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Great inaccuracy, completely changes the context of the sentence

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Great inaccuracy, completely changes the context of the sentence

It means that you remembered some of the details wrong. That's something worth pointing out if you are going to use something like that as the basis of an argument.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Can't you just show the panel?
Was a lomg time agor that I read demon Slayer so I don't remenber how that fight went

 

[Armorchompy]

Dudes we aren't even talking about the fight anymore, can we either go back to that or determine whether Gaara is fine for this tournament?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It means that you remembered some of the details wrong. That's something worth pointing out if you are going to use something like that as the basis of an argument.

... But It wasn't even an argument, man

And literally **** it. It's simply an irrelevant detail that changes nothing in the context of the sentence.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

... But It wasn't even an argument, man

And literally **** it. It's simply an irrelevant detail that changes nothing in the context of the sentence.

Okay, if it wasn't an argument, then it probably wasn't that relevant though I still felt like making a correction here, so I did.

 

[Nierre]

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Dudes we aren't even talking about the fight anymore, can we either go back to that or determine whether Gaara is fine for this tournament?

gaara is fine, this is just a bad mathup

 

[Armorchompy]

I mean, wasn't it argued his shield's dura is 90 tons?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I mean, wasn't it argued his shield's dura is 90 tons?

not that I remenber.... one sec

 

[Armorchompy]

Hehehe, I was too late.


To add to this point, the Sand Armor that withstood attacks from 4th Gate Lee was actually directly stated to be far less durable than the automatic sand shield.
Considering that the 1st Gate alone is a 5x multiplier, a legit case can be made for the Sand Shield to be 8-A, since 1st Gate Lee would be around 93 tons.

But yeah, anyway, Gaara FRA.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

... maybe to much for the tournament... theres any other way to bypass it?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

but ir should be stated in garaa profile that his sand shield have such dura

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

... maybe to much for the tournament... theres any other way to bypass it?

Other than overpowering it with sheer AP, it can also be bypassed with speed much greater than Gaara's. So speed amps might help.

 

[Armorchompy]

Other than overpowering it with sheer AP, it can also be bypassed with speed much greater than Gaara's. So speed amps might help.

Afaik there aren't many characters with speed amps here, and I wouldn't call Gene's amp "great"

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Other than overpowering it with sheer AP, it can also be bypassed with speed much greater than Gaara's. So speed amps might help.

dura negation is also a way... but if It this resistent and just so many few ways to bypass it... could LS help?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

dura negation is also a way... but if It this resistent and just so many few ways to bypass it... could LS help?

Yeah I think LS would help bypass Gaara's Sand Coffin and Crushing Sand. Most of Gaara's finishers involve engulfing his opponent in sand and crushing their limbs, so LS should definitely be a major help.

 

[Armorchompy]

don't think you're gonna find many 8-Bs with Class M

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Yeah I think LS would help bypass Gaara's Sand Coffin and Crushing Sand. Most of Gaara's finishers involve engulfing his opponent in sand and crushing their limbs, so LS should definitely be a major help.

I was talking about the shields...

don't think you're gonna find many 8-Bs with Class M

well, lets look the ones in the turnament

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I guess Gaara might be a bit too overqualified for the tourney then......

Maybe replace him with someone less oppressive like Neji, Naruto, Sasuke, or Lee?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I guess Gaara might be a bit too overqualified for the tourney then......

Maybe replace him with someone less oppressive like Neji, Naruto, Sasuke, or Lee?

we would need to see with the guy whom put gaara here

 

[Armorchompy]

Optimus was booted out so there's just one with Class M, and I haven't even checked if he's higher than Gaara

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Optimus was booted out so there's just one with Class M, and I haven't even checked if he's higher than Gaara

he wasn't, optimus still in the fight

 

[Armorchompy]

two then

 

[JustANormalLemon]

well, I think he is too op for the turnament them

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I think Gaara's a bit too much for the tournament.

Maybe replace him with someone less oppressive like Neji, Naruto, Sasuke, or Lee?

I agree with this statement.

 

[Razor]

Yeah base rock lee scales above chunnin exams sasuke who has a 18.52 tons calc, and the first gate is a 5x multiplier which would make rock lee 92.9 tons. and gaara's shield was able to withstand attacks from first gate rock lee

I mean, wasn't it argued his shield's dura is 90 tons?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yeah base rock lee scales above chunnin exams sasuke who has a 18.52 tons calc, and the first gate is a 5x gap which would make rock lee 92.9 tons. and gaara's shield was able to withstand attacks from first gate rock lee

Yeah, we should replace Gaara with someone else.

 

[Razor]

Neji could probably work, 64 palms get thrown out the window due to the chakra system being very specific but he still has the byakugan and the palm rotation.