Oh right I forgot about that.
If you want to start close-range, she has martial arts, if her magic stomps/outranges and defensive magic; ig, yeah; about the magic, you can restrict the offensive magic and then ig she won't be no-selling him
I remember that both WoG and in-game statements imply that most aspects of gameplay are indeed canon. Like the game’s style ranking and the machines being motivated to fight at the absolute highest level of skill to get their footage ranked highly are canon, w/V1 is pretty evidently the apex. The waves mode I showed you called Cybergrind is also mentioned canonically in the same entry
Yeah the point of the tiersetter is to not tinker around with stuff like that. But I think her Town level magic could be restricted. You could run that, but she'd be pretty fodder (just being a meh portaller/teleporter with weak punches and 9-A dura).
Bit confused by how it could simultaneously be the apex, and a random machine among countless others.
Yea some people also question how is that the case lol, but my guess is that V1 being the most skilled or overpowered mf doesn’t really matter, they can still die, and nothing would even change after that. What they did throughout the game is kind of pointless, sure they rampaged through Hell, but if they didn't exist then other machines would have done the same (It's been a while since I learned the lore so I might have missed smth)
I mean I'd be confident in Statesman winning a match against V1 lol
I've been told that Blade's RPL is actually separate from his Fusion Rate, hence not having the higher rating. Even if he's able to grow in stats, it's not so much a staggering spike that his Fusion Rates rating had brought (which boosts his stats by 3x since he was able to fight an Undead as strong as his King Form). Meaning that it won't be restricted as it's not tied to any rating.
Since the tourney is most likely becoming speed equal soon and I assume it's one character entry per user, I'm unsure of who to pick to stay. Geats and Blade are pretty cool (yea I know, banger reasoning), and the only big difference is that Geat's profile is more updated and newer than Blade which still uses RPL rather than Accelerated Development (Battle) and his revision is still not going to happen till some time later. Other than that, it's a 50/50. Whichever choice is yours.
What? She is L7C both in AP and Dura
Mayhaps, the tiersetter tries to look for a certain kind of character in the tier. First two levels of the meta are getting a character who would lose to the tiersetter but autowin against other characters (here that'd be, like, 100m radius passive instakill), second level of the meta is getting a character similar to the tiersetter to beat those picks.
RPL seems fine if it's relatively minor like that.
Oh lol, I just misread it as "Small Building".
Garou seems like he'd probably be too strong:
His Teleportation seems like it would bridge the gap instantly, where his 4x stat advantage, effectively undodgeable explosive/light attacks, speed amp, and additional weapons would make it unreasonable for him to ever lose.
The profile does not at all explain how Fusion Rates work, so I'm just gonna go off of what you say.
No, it doesn't spawn right on target. As it stands, its speed would be around the same ballpark as her own. She can dodge spears like her own, so others shouldn't be completely incapable either.
How soft would you argue her durability to be? Would Kokken need multiple hits to take her down, while Waltraute would only need one hit to take out Kokken, or do you think they'd both be able to one-shot each other?
That's debatable. We know her own value would be enough to oneshot her. Beyond that she has just ballpark scaling.
What's the other scaling that'd be relevant? I wanna anticipate the sorta arguments that'd come up, I'd rather not DQ her after it starts.
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I don't recall her starting a fight at that much distance in the novel. If we take her sisters for measure (as they share the same essence) I would guess launching lightning spears from a distance to cover herself while closing in would be her thing. She did a similar thing in the crossover novel (written by the same author).
Eh I'm pretty sure the gap is only around 2x. Also, only his thrown light lances are explosive, and they are definitely dodgeable. His speed amp comes from Rage, which isn’t actually that good, he was just dashing around more or smth. Since SBA assumes his strongest version (the one with 24 hours left before he dies), he will use his two swords and fight at close range quite a lot and i mean i'm pretty confident that his ass won't match Kokken's skill at all lol
Wouldn't Gabriel scale to V1's reflection of Minos' fist, at 32 kilotons?
Oh, not actual lightspeed, huh, and looks like the explosion of light isn't damaging either.
Yeah that actually does sound pretty fair, I'll add him.
Provisionally adding, gonna assume you want the 7-C interpretation.
Yep
nah he upscales from the latter value, 13.85 kilotons
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It should be very similar to Geats' empowerment. The big difference is that Blade has a set limit to his AP/Dura while Geats is vaguely broad. Usually he'd take a while before his Fusion Rates rise up to that level, but the speed at which he reaches that level is boosted dramatically by being determined to win, especially in extremely worse case scenarios For example, he got stomped by one powerful undead who's as powerful as his King Form (3x Ace Blade AP) but during their final fight, the latter took away all his Rouse Cards (the cards used for his techniques and stuff in his rider form), prompting him to reassert his beliefs on fighting for people that can't, and thus his Fusion Rates rise up to defeat the undead.
Unsure by the exact number of hits, but even she should give him some trouble. Even the lowest level of undead can be a danger for the Kamen Riders of that series. Seeing as Kokken looks 5, Kenzaki should go easier on her too. And the range is ample enough to land enough hits on him to defeat Blade. Most of his kit works best when up close and personal, so he's more dangerous for her when she gets into his range. Also he has piss poor LS.
Actually, Blade should have Superhuman movement speed (17.54m/s to be exact) since the speed given in the profile is just for his combat/reaction speed. Riding his motorcycle would net him 340km/h, but it leaves him more open to her attacks in comparison to going by foot (sure he can swerve here and there, but he should be hit more often). Mach Jaguar (his speed amp) boosts both his and his motorcycle speed by an undefined amount, though there is clearly a noticeable boost.
(imagine if Gabe fights this guy again in this tournament)Rats, rats, we are rats.Ikit Claw
Ikit Claw is one of the most powerful sorcerers in the Old World, and he has dedicated his long life to the study of all forms of magic and science, including the spells and technology of Men, Elves, and Dwarfs. Over the decades before the second Skaven civil war, Ikit Claw travelled secretly to...
Give him an hour of prep and speed Equal and he'll do relatively well, leave him with just like... his own person and he might as well not be here. He can get one-shot but one-shots in turn basically
Yeah the reactive evolution and power mimicry are probably his strongest powers.
Btw Agnaa, restricting the Ali's 6-C AP wouldn't restrict his equipment that caused it under specific conditions right?
I'll hold off on adding him, unless we really need a character or two to push us to 16. I'll also keep him in mind in case Statesman gets DQ'd.Rats, rats, we are rats.Ikit Claw
Ikit Claw is one of the most powerful sorcerers in the Old World, and he has dedicated his long life to the study of all forms of magic and science, including the spells and technology of Men, Elves, and Dwarfs. Over the decades before the second Skaven civil war, Ikit Claw travelled secretly to...
Give him an hour of prep and speed Equal and he'll do relatively well, leave him with just like... his own person and he might as well not be here. He can get one-shot but one-shots in turn basically
Yeah I think that's fair. Taking a fair bit of time, mainly coming up in stomps & dire situations.
I'll provisionally add him.
I'll provisionally add them.
No, it would restrict that equipment in general.
New calc has come out where Blade Riders' movement speeds have also become High Hypersonic. Currently it isn't evaluated yet so if it doesn't satisfy entry rule 7, switch him with Geats and put Blade as backup for the moment (or whatever else action you wish).
even though it doesnt reach its highest AP without other factors? Essentially like 7-C normally, 6-C when insert a very specific condition
It would restrict whatever that condition is, assuming the character can consciously choose to forego it, lacked it at a certain point in the story, or if it's under possibly/likely (so there's an interpretation where it wouldn't be taken as reaching that point).
Understood. But what if there were 2 separate equipment that falls under the same category, the same name, but one of them completely lacks the option to have access to higher AP, would that particular equipment of the same name be restricted?
idk, that sounds like a really weird case
I have a solution. Just change restrict damage accumulation and tops to restrict damage accumulation and hybrid tops. That would solve the dilemma.
