5th strongest 7-A Bracket Round 3 (Lancer of Red (Karna) vs Gengar)

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait Jesus what did I miss? Did Karna win from things not on his profile yet?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

No.

He won from skill and 6-C spear yeet.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Also forgot to address the raging bull of "LMAO 2-A ATTACK"

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Higher tier attacks are almost always restricted. For example I f I put Zelda in a 6-B match it's assumed without question that she doesn't get Light Arrows.

Also a lot of these votes were because of resist. And yes while Karna does outskill, he's not going Ultra Instinct and dodging everything especially with Gengar's superior mobility, and Gengar doesn't exactly lack it in itself, especially given it needs a sizable amount of it to be a rival to the genius that is Alakazam.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's not now, because this is made to find out who is the strongest, period.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Isn't this the non-smurf version?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

That still means Karna has a natural range advantage in CQC due to his Spear, and at Rnage he'd start to pull Brahmastra (7-A+) and Brahmastra Kundala (6-C).

And Karna is so skilled he is said to rival the gods. He very much is going to skillstomp here.

And people made the point about a 6-C attack earlier in the thread. Even then, Brahmastra has enough AoE to wipe out Gengar.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It isn't.

And smurf applies to higher Ds, I think.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I think the thing to remember is that even if Karna doesn't outright resist, whatever status effects Gengar tries will be cut by 90%. At best the sleep manip probably makes him kinda drowsy, or the paralysis like makes his limb not move maybe.

Karna isn't one to underestimate his opponents. If Gengar is being a weaselly little bastard and not getting hit, then Karna drops a 2-A nuke on him, or a 6-C one if he is feeling charitable. That 2-A nuke ain't gonna be restricted btw, since this is about finding the strongest period

 

[John985]

This bracket was made for this thread, so yeah smurf.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

You know Gengar is stronger than Karna physically as he's comparable to Tyranitar, who's stronger than Pupitar by walking.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

"Oh you weasily little bastard, did you just try to possess me?"

"VASAVI SHAKTI"

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh then if this isn't non smurf then oof nevermind.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Cal.

Karna has smurf level attacks.

A literal 2-A nuke he will not hesitate to drop if needed. A 6-C AoE Spear throw. A 7-A+ Laser.

He massively outskills.

And then there's the 90% resistance to hostile interference.

Gengar is not winning.

Sad day to be one of my favorite pokemon.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

You know Gengar is stronger than Karna physically as he's comparable to Tyranitar, who's stronger than Pupitar by walking.

Sounds like a great time for a 6-C attack, which Karna does not hold off of using whatsoever

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Seriously it's kind of a meme.

He throws it for a casual attack in FGO.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Reinhard throws his spear

...wait

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Wrong meme, but right meme lmao

 

[Roachman40]

Gunga Gengar

Lancer via Sleep, paralysis, possession and absorption

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I guess now would be a good time to explain why this isn't a stomp. There is a very short window for Gengar to get his his status effects between the time where the armor is removed and the 2-A nuke drops. That's about it lol

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

So it's not a stomp if he uses VS and Gengar can manage a debuff while the armor is off.

But if he doesn't use Vasavi Shakti before Brahmastra Kundala or Brahmastra, then lmao ded.

 

[Schnee_One]

You know Gengar is stronger than Karna physically as he's comparable to Tyranitar, who's stronger than Pupitar by walking.

Karna scales above Angra Mainyu in strength, which fit destroyed by a broken down Shirou.

Even if Gengar has the advantage it's incredibly small.