[R1M4] FC/OC 9-C Tournament: Red Stickmen (FU verse) vs Ramen (Ramen!) (GRACE)

[ThePrimalHunter]

Round 1 Match 4:
Red Stickmen (FU verse) vs Ramen (Ramen!)

Same rules as in the tournament

• Speed is equal
• Both have prior knowledge
• Both start 15m away
• Fight takes place in a dark allyway
• A large array of weapons are laying on the ground that can be used
• Red Stickmen's 1st key is used
• Red Stickmen's Knife & Bombs are restricted
• Winner moves on in the tournament

Red Stickmen is 3.735 KJ
Ramen is >1 KJ

Who Wins?

Red Stickmen: 0 ()
Ramen: 3 (LeoEpicGamer8910, HonestlyBored24, MintyBoi1)
Incon: 0 ()

 

[HonestlyBored24]

According to Froggy, Red Stickman has as much of a chance of hitting a normal opponent as an absolutely wasted man fighting a bear in the bear enclosure. He’s fighting a guy who has superhuman acrobatics.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

According to Froggy, Red Stickman has as much of a chance of hitting a normal opponent as an absolutely wasted man fighting a bear in the bear enclosure. He’s fighting a guy who has superhuman acrobatics.

Yeah, if that's the case, Maruchan probably stomps here.

 

[Froggytron]

According to Froggy, Red Stickman has as much of a chance of hitting a normal opponent as an absolutely wasted man fighting a bear in the bear enclosure. He’s fighting a guy who has superhuman acrobatics.

That is true, but little Red Stickman still could use his Cheap clone machine, given he is a preparation time user

• Cheap clone machine - Red Stickman builds a 3D fleshprinter from pre-set parts he brings. The machine scans him completely and using 3D printing future technology will produce a slightly weaker, ugly clone of him each 3/4 of a second, upon fight starting. Unfortunately, due to saving money on the "clone mind developing part", each 3rd clone will become a failure, which joins the enemy side.

If he scans himself while holding the Trash Can picked in the alley, his clones will also be printed with it, and they could bombard Ramen with flying Trash Cans. Trash Cans are a wise choice here, as the Stickman with clones can stuff all failure clones inside of them before throwing them, making the Trash Cans hit harder and break failure clones bones meanwhile, so they won't be much help for Ramen.

 

[TheMassivlyUnkn0wn]

theres nothing stating that theres prep time in the tournament rules. so assuming we'd use sba:

Preparation time: None. That means there is no time between the character knowing there is going to be some battle and the point they may start killing each other.

so by nature the stickfigure wouldnt have time to pull any cloning off

 

[Froggytron]

Shoot

Red Stickman then needs to deploy it in the fight, throwing the deployable machine at the ground and making a speed-up scan of him holding the Trash Can. This will make the clones even more weird and less quality, but better than nothing. The original plan could then still work.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Shoot

Red Stickman then needs to deploy it in the fight, throwing the deployable machine at the ground and making a speed-up scan of him holding the Trash Can. This will make the clones even more weird and less quality, but better than nothing. The original plan could then still work.

Ok, even assuming that this RS has a pre-built cheap cloning machine like the profile says, Cup Noodles has dodged countless gunshots from a group of four trained FBI agents (who are the best the government has I should mention), and he can attack at reasonable range. I don’t think this DK crap will work as well as you think, even accounting for the clones spawning every 0.75 seconds.

 

[Froggytron]

Ok, even assuming that this RS has a pre-built cheap cloning machine like the profile says, Cup Noodles has dodged countless gunshots from a group of four trained FBI agents (who are the best the government has I should mention), and he can attack at reasonable range. I don’t think this DK crap will work as well as you think, even accounting for the clones spawning every 0.75 seconds.

Even if the street corridor eventually gets totally spammed by Trash Cans (if filled with garbage even worse)? All the bad clones will fight with "good" ones (they will use the present weapons like, Baseball Bat, Crowbar, Steel Pipe), and soon the limited area of nigh alley wont have ampty space for Ramen to dodge with acrobatics. The original Stickman could hide into an empty Trash Can meanwhile.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Even if the street corridor eventually gets totally spammed by Trash Cans (if filled with garbage even worse)? All the bad clones will fight with "good" ones (they will use the present weapons like, Baseball Bat, Crowbar, Steel Pipe), and soon the limited area of nigh alley wont have ampty space for Ramen to dodge with acrobatics. The original Stickman could hide into an empty Trash Can meanwhile.

Ramen could try smashing open the trash cans to make space, but okay, I concede.

Sticks FRA.

EDIT: Wait, what about that trash stamina? Can’t Ramen just try to get past the trash cans and just start smacking all of them?

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

To add to HonestlyBored24's statement, the distance is 15 meters. It shouldn't take more than 3 seconds to cross the distance as regular humans can cross that in that time. If the cloning machine clones something every 0.75 seconds, it would only be able to clone about 4 trash cans/other weapons before Ramen reaches the stickman. And that's assuming Ramen can only run as fast as an average person.

I really don't think that the cloning machine is going to help here as Ramen will be too close for the trash cans to do anything

Also it says on the profile that it needs 10 minutes of prep time to set up and it explicitly states on the profile that he needs prep time to use it. Red Stickmen doesn't have that in this fight

 

[HonestlyBored24]

To add to HonestlyBored24's statement, the distance is 15 meters. It shouldn't take more than 3 seconds to cross the distance as regular humans can cross that in that time. If the cloning machine clones something every 0.75 seconds, it would only be able to clone about 4 trash cans/other weapons before Ramen reaches the stickman. And that's assuming Ramen can only run as fast as an average person.

I really don't think that the cloning machine is going to help here as Ramen will be too close for the trash cans to do anything

Also it says on the profile that it needs 10 minutes of prep time to set up and it explicitly states on the profile that he needs prep time to use it. Red Stickmen doesn't have that in this fight

Red Stickman’s profile says something about some Stickmen already having a clone machine, though the page is confusing as hell so I don’t think it’s valid.

If the cloning machine requires preparation all around, then Ramen stomps. If it doesn’t, Ramen just wins due to the massive skill and stamina difference.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Even more proof of Ramen winning this:

Unfortunately, due to saving money on the "clone mind developing part", each 3rd clone will become a failure, which joins the enemy side

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Even more proof of Ramen winning this:

Froggy also said something about the bad Stickmen stuffing the good Stickmen into animatronic suits trash cans to counter that, but I should really stop making arguments against myself

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

animatronic suits

The stickman behind the slaughter

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Bump?

So far I think Ramen is winning the debate but I do think we should all come to a verdict soon

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

I'm pretty sure Maruchan has this.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

If Froggy doesn’t respond, Cup Noodles FRA

 

[MintyBoi1]

Yeah Ramen FRA

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

This is grace, Froggytron has 24 hours to give their opinion, otherwise Ramen is moving on to fight "The Eviler"

 

[Froggytron]

To add to HonestlyBored24's statement, the distance is 15 meters. It shouldn't take more than 3 seconds to cross the distance as regular humans can cross that in that time. If the cloning machine clones something every 0.75 seconds, it would only be able to clone about 4 trash cans/other weapons before Ramen reaches the stickman. And that's assuming Ramen can only run as fast as an average person.

It's true Ramen could bypass 4 trashcans while getting to the Stickman with acrobatics, but can he KO the original Stickman if he hides in the trash can? Is street durability enough to break through thick iron, when 2/3 of clones being produced will throw other trash cans at you and target you with available weapons meanwhile? It seems like a hard job, where time goes to Stickman's advantage (more clones => less chance to finish the original).

Tables could turn if Ramen grabbed the trash can with the original Stickman, transported it, and got several 3rd failure clones around it (before too many 2/3 clones appeared). They would massacre the trash can so badly that the Stickman inside would get KO'd. However, this would require Ramen being a great tactician and commander, able to use all momentary things to his advantage.

 

[Froggytron]

Froggy also said something about the bad Stickmen stuffing the good Stickmen into animatronic suits trash cans to counter that, but I should really stop making arguments against myself

Indeed the 2/3 clones would attempt stuffing the "good" ones inside before throwing them at Ramen, most of the "good" clones gonna have broken bones after that. The question is if Ramen can use all things to his advantage and finish the protected original before there are too many enemy clones around.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

It's true Ramen could bypass 4 trashcans while getting to the Stickman with acrobatics, but can he KO the original Stickman if he hides in the trash can? Is street durability enough to break through thick iron, when 2/3 of clones being produced will throw other trash cans at you and target you with available weapons meanwhile? It seems like a hard job, where time goes to Stickman's advantage (more clones => less chance to finish the original).

Tables could turn if Ramen grabbed the trash can with the original Stickman, transported it, and got several 3rd failure clones around it (before too many 2/3 clones appeared). They would massacre the trash can so badly that the Stickman inside would get KO'd. However, this would require Ramen being a great tactician and commander, able to use all momentary things to his advantage.

Pretty sure a guy who can casually take out MMA fighters can at least dent a normal ass trash can. Also, if Ramen finds the trash can with OG Stickman in it, he would just start using it to combat the other Stickmen in such a way that OG Stickman is bound to get KO’d with his Below Average stamina. I don’t think he needs to be a military general to deal with the Stickmen, especially when he’s dealt with formidable foes before and his opponents are duller than a doorknob.

 

[Froggytron]

I don’t think he needs to be a military general to deal with the Stickmen, especially when he’s dealt with formidable foes before and his opponents are duller than a doorknob.

My guy, you are splitting the actual FU facts in this sentence xD

Also, if Ramen finds the trash can with OG Stickman in it, he would just start using it to combat the other Stickmen

Using the trash can with OG Stickman to slam into the clones attacking seems like a well-fit ending for the original. Ramen FRA

 

[Froggytron]

Added results of the battle to both profiles