DragonLord
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I suppose that makes sense still I suppose with site rules it probably needs to be a translation done here
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3-A Moro upgrade
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Vietthai96
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But.........do we even have Beerus and Whis manga profile????? to scale them at all
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I believe that the Beerus Champa feat in the manga should be reconsidered as 3-A. At no point in time, beerus was ever scared of moro at any of his forms. In fact, he was pretty confident that he would take planet moro out while MUI goku was struggling. Even in the recent manga, where beerus stomped vegeta, goku said that beerus is not someone to mess with. This means that beerus is still likely above goku in the dbs manga.
From all this, we can conclude that 3-A beerus and other GODs make sense.
From all this, we can conclude that 3-A beerus and other GODs make sense.
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I doubt it since Goku can't breathe in space, which he'd need to do if the planet was destroyed, so it's most likely just Beerus being Beerus.
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3-A is pretty legit. About scaling, well, nothing stated that it's a thing like Majin Vegeta's self destruction, but context just says that is Moro's full energy if the latter gets out of control, ergo is simply its peak of ki. So whoever is above Moro should be 3-A as well.
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That's a technique not just the result of the lack of control of the ki.
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Anyway, the full thread from Herms here gives some more context to the possible translation error. Some of it is missing due to the other person apparently deleting their account, but there should still be enough to get an idea of what's going on. I'll try looking through the manga itself later.
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Someone should ask AKM to take a look at this as well.
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I contacted AKM through Discord. Let's hope they respond soon.
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I agree with universe level but I don't think high universe level is true.
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I already linked it, but I'll spare you the trouble and link it again.
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hmm
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I think Herms was unsure whether Whis' statement meant "whole" galaxy or "each/every" galaxy, and he even says it's possible to conflate the two. Going by the context, it's probably the former since every time the talk of universal destruction has occurred in DBS, they have always used the word "uchu/universe" directly.
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DragonLord
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I guess it’s kinda debatable but I think Uub being called the Savior of the Universe is enough to say The explosion would effect more then just the galaxy, so I agree with Moro being 3-A
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Examining the context, the arguments in favor of destruction of one galaxy are:
1) Toyotaro generally uses the word to mean "entire" (galaxy).
2) Characters have always used the word "uchu/universe" for universal destruction, and never "every galaxy".
3) Krillin didn't mean it as "every galaxy".
The arguments in favor of destruction of the universe are:
1) The dictionary meaning of the word is "every" (galaxy).
2) Krillin was working under the assumption that one of the Super Dragon Balls was in that galaxy, which is not impossible but still absurd. But then again, they couldn't take any chances so this is a weak argument.
I think the case is pretty vague. I guess a "possibly" rating could work?
Saving the universe is a blanket statement. This doesn't mean anything on its own when the opponent is indeed a threat to the universe.
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this should be fine
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And also the super dragon balls were in danger, those can't be in just one galaxy
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Well, wouldn't they be out of luck if even one Super Dragon Ball gets destroyed? You can't collect all seven Dragon Balls to summon the dragon to fix everything if there aren't seven Dragon Balls still existing, after all. Plus, even if you take it as "every galaxy," surely Universe 6 would be unaffected by this.
As for the "savior of the universe" line, I don't see how it necessarily follows that Moro's explosion was going to annihilate the entire universe. If a villain was going to destroy Texas and someone defeated them before they could do so, Joe Biden very well might hail them as the savior of the country/nation.
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I think that the "possibly 3-A" compromise is a little silly. Dictionary definitions don't mean too much if the author clearly uses them in a different way (or else we'd be giving out Low 2-C to nearly every universe buster), Krillin's statement is a stretch but this was a dire situation and there's no reason for them to want to rely on blind luck to save them, and I already explained what's up with the Daikaioshin's statement.
I'm not going to protest if it goes through anyway, though. I just want to make my voice heard.
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2 things:
Is there any specific evidence that at least one of the S.D.B.'s were in that galaxy? And when it says the S.D.B's were in danger, did they mean all of them or some?
Is there any specific evidence that at least one of the S.D.B.'s were in that galaxy? And when it says the S.D.B's were in danger, did they mean all of them or some?
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Were all the super dragon balls in danger or some of them or only one?
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I don't recall a Super Dragon Ball being in the Milky Way but people can feel free to correct me on this
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Nothing suggests that any of the SDBs were within the galaxy, but again, when the entire galaxy is on the line, do you think Krillin and the others would be willing to bank it all on chance?
It's almost certainly not all of them, considering some of them should have been in Universe 6 when this was going down. Unless you think they mean every galaxy in the multiverse, which is a huge stretch.
Read the above.
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So if not just one was gonna be destroyed then moro should definitely get 3-A because the super dragon balls are spread around the universe.
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I agree with Possibly 3-A via Self-Destruction
Does UI Goku scale to this?
Does UI Goku scale to this?
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i dont see why not, he was still physically stronger than more even in his planet merged state
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If more than one Super Dragon Ball was going to be destroyed. We don't even know that any of them were going to be destroyed, that was just Krillin's guess. Also, keep in mind that the Super Dragon Balls are spread out throughout both Universe 7 and Universe 6, and no one is arguing that Angel Moro is 2-C.
Vietthai96
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This is exactly the thing i wonder from when this threas was created 0.0
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But if krillin thought the super dragon balls were gonna be destroyed and he didn't know whether one was in the milky way or not, then they must have implied that more than just the milky way was gonna get blown up right? Since the super dragon balls are across U7 and destroying one was enough if 1 was in the milky way then we'd say that it's just the galaxy that was gonna be destroyed, byt if they didn't know 1 was in the milky way then they must mean that multiple galaxies and more likely the universe would be destroyed.
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He didn't know. But would you have taken a chance to destroy one of the SDB which would have rendered them all inactive? He doesn't know but he doesn't want any of the SDBs to be caught in the destruction in case there was one floating around. So Krillin had a reasonable concern.
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AKM has a valid point, and it was brought up once before as well, Destroying even one of them would render all of them useless.
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