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3-A DBS manga upgrade.
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At least speed gets a bump now.
Need a few peeps to accept my calc first, but it should be a relatively simple one to accept.
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Could you post it here Bro?
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Now the thing is, in the manga the Bog feat is back to 3-B, really High end 3-B. Ok.
But Merged Zamasu's feat about nearly going to destroy the universe was accepted, regardless.
And the calcs puts it at 15x baseline 3-A.
Now we will have to see how we are going to organize Chou scaling now.
But Merged Zamasu's feat about nearly going to destroy the universe was accepted, regardless.
And the calcs puts it at 15x baseline 3-A.
Now we will have to see how we are going to organize Chou scaling now.
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It's in Zamasu's comment.
Basically I used Assalt's calc for baseline universe level and swapped his Explosive Radius with Zamasu's calculated Explosive Radius. That's basically it. Nothing else needed.
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I mean the manga results
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Okay. You can send a notification to a few other calc group members to ask them for help if you wish.
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Manga results you just then divide the OG result with the timeframe assumptions of 10 minutes, 30 minutes and an hour.
Actually tho, I think 30 minutes is way too long of a timeframe. That's literally enough time to watch an anime episode and more than enough time for the Kais to seek help somewhere. 10 minutes is a considerably more reasonable estimate, given that the Kais were scared shitless by the feat's consequences. Also Kieran accepted the mid-end for the manga before leaving the wiki.
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With 10 minutes which one would be the result?
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Still 3-B. Using any timeframe end for the matter would be 3-B.
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Damn, still.
We got Merged Zamasu's feat, which is legit 15x times 3-A.
Now, Chou Bog loses it's 3-A rating, but Merged Zamasu's 3-A feat stands.
As it was already accepted.
The problem is, how we are gonna organize the manga scaling chain now.
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wait, when did mid-end down to 3-B???
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When I made this calc.
Trying to figure out the GBE of the Realm of the Kais and then finding its mass by upscaling the volume from the Observable Universe's volume was a crapshoot, the explosion ended up being 3-B as a whole (I got 10^77 joules which is just borderline insane), and that was also because I was massively lowballing the polytropic value of the Realm which made no sense to begin with for something as large as the Realm, given that it's not even a star.
So we shifted to the simplest end. Assalt's end with the Er swapped in for Zamasu's.
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Trying to find GBE of the Realm of Kais. I don't think it is a good method
damn hard, Complete SSB Goku will scale, however the problem is down scale from Complete SSB Goku, we don't even know the different between normal SSB Goku and Complete SSB Goku
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Let's assume Normal SSB is high end 3-B, and 100% blue Goku 3-A.
Still, they get stronger in the TOP arc, and obviously UIO/MUI Goku will be leagues above SSB 100%, specially from the Black arc.
And manga Jiren literally trashed 100% Blue Goku, still.
Into 3-A, the results will be pretty decent btw
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How is that possible? Didn't the size reduce?
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Nope. Diameter of the globe is now bigger LMAO, albeit slightly.
Zamasu got 135px for observable universe, globe diameter is 335px.
8.8e+26*(335/135)= 2.1837037e+27 m diameter for Globe 7. Your calc uses the old calc of 1.76e+27 m diameter.
So ye, boost, but not much of a boost.
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Oh, using your method 2 pixel scaling (Pixel-scaling is fine I think),
Assuming 590px globe to be 2.1837037e+27 m and 499px as the distance travelled...
2.1837037e+27/(590/499)= 1.8468952e+27 m travelled.
10 seconds, so...
1.8468952e+27/10= 1.8468952e+26 m/s.
1.8468952e+26/299792458= 6.1605793e+17x or 616.05793 quadrillion times FTL
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I think the old 220x baseline calc upscaled from the custom calculated value of the baseline universe. Like, someone got how much bigger the DB Universe is than the Observable one, then they multiplied that value with the baseline Universe level value for some reason and got stuff so high.
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Damn what a downgrade
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Hey, at least speed got a pretty good boost.
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Well, the good thing is that at least the Anime is x26 Universal, not too bad if you ask me.
Also, the 3-A rating isn't gone from the manga, as I said previously, we got Merged Zamasu's feat, the second Calc that was accepted in the OP.
Now the problem is, how we are going to apply the 3-A Chou scaling from now on.
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-Speed gets an upgrade.
-In the Anime, the Bog feat is downgraded to x26 times above baseline, instead of the previous x220 3-A.
-In the manga, the Bog feat is downgraded to really High end 3-B, BUT the 3-A rating stays thanks to the second Calc that Zamasu posted here (Merged Zamasu 3-A feat) which was already evaluated and accepted.
Now the problem would be how we will have to scale from Chou Merged Zamasu and upwards...
That's all iirc
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53.846x above baseline. Remember the scaling chain.
Base Goku (after breaking his limits) = Second Super Dense Energy > 2x Goku's Kamehameha (which formed it) > Goku's Punch (which proved difficult to nullify) > First Super Dense Energy ≈ 26.923x baseline Universe level
That one has to be re-done using my calc then I suppose.
I honestly hadn't taken this into account at all. Y'all can sort it out for yourselves.
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Is gonna be 3-A regardless, as Zamasu threatened to destroy all Galaxies which would mean is still 3-A.
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Correction. The feat itself is almost 27 times above baseline (26.923x), but Goku ups this to 53.846x above baseline due to the aforementioned scaling chain in AKM's blog. Original calc also had a 110x baseline energy which got pumped to 220x due to the scaling chain, but that calc is outdated now. My 26.923x version is the new accurate one.
Since the Zamasu Rage feat doesn't rely on a timeframe, I think that one can just use the normal inverse-square law feat of the anime just fine. That one would be 3-A (I commented here), while the BOG feat would be 3-B due to timeframe shenanigans.
Yeah I'm not gonna touch that, me just a calc dude, not a scaling dude.
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I don't think it will take you much time to recalc it, no?
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Okay. That is probably fine, as long as @AKM sama has no objections.
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LOL no, it's just copypasting the same universe-busting calc on the comments.
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Ok, post it here when you are done Bro.
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Had some slight fixes to do on the calc.
Using Assalt's calc and just swapping his radius with full universe diameter, we get...
Yield: 4 x (3 x (6.67408×10^-11) x ((1.989×10^30) x 2.01)^2)/(13009.59 x (5-1)) x ((8.8e+26)/13009.59)^2 = 1.1255087e+93 J or 11.255087 TenaexaFoe (3-A). About 3.984x above baseline.
Ouch. Downgrade, but still 3-A. So that's good.
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Nice, although now I wonder what was wrong with Zamasu's Calc tho
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using universe GBE, because the universe has no set GBE. That value was just the explosion yield value via inverse-square law.Nice, although now I wonder what was wrong with Zamasu's Calc tho
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Ah I see, now this is more accurate.
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I’ll make the changes when I’m a little less sleep deprived.
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