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2B goku? massive upgrade to goku

Goku is 300.000.000.000.000 times tronger then raditz, almost as strong as superman
 
Well, what death battle says is law


On a completly u related note, dont you guys think that gaaras is super op, hes almost toph level!
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
Seth has Goku at Uni+ from BoG and Multi-Uni post RoF
Which its not the case for either. He probabky thinks that its sinple math. 1+1 is 2 right? So if ssb goku is at least 2 times stronger than ssg, then he can easily destroy 2 universes at the same time. Unfortunately, thats not how it works (not even in dragon ball, as zeno erasing a universe in one fell swoop is extraordinary for even the gods). If that were the case, jiren and UI goku would be 2-A on our tiering system, since they are infinitely more powerful than gokus BOG self.
 
To be fair, there is a decent case (even though I don't personally buy it) for Universal+ Goku at the end of the FT arc which is what I recall Seth suggesting.

Also, because of the geometry a large part of the tiering system is based on, it is not considered possible for the difference between a Universal+ and a Multi-Universal to be exactly quantified; however, if Goku had started at 2-C instead of Low 2-C, zenkais, kaio ken, obv MUI, etc...would bring him farther and farther above baseline and at least in the case of kaio ken, I think the multiplier might actually work in a SSB (DC 4 Universal spacetime continuums) -> SSBKKx20 (DC 80 Universal spacetime continuums) sort of way? Could be wrong though
 
Nhhhh said:
Whis isnt universal
Has goku surpassed whis???????

Rip whis 2k18 cant even stop a universal level attack T-T
( World in this senario translates to universe btw)
Plot Induced Stupiditiy. By that logic Frieza, Goku, and beerus are stronger than whis.
 
Yep, that or Whis was lieing to Hercule (which probably head canon from so the former)
 
Whis may be right in his statement now that i think about it. He isnt a god of destruction to erase energy, so while he will survive it no problem, he may not have the power (outside of time reversal to make it dissapear into nothingness.
 
I've said this a billion times now in other threads

There are 4 Goku's.

CC Gi Goku

Xeno Goku

DBH DBS Goku

DBH GT Goku

CC Gi Goku fought Xeno Goku

Xeno Goku has SSJ4 and SSJG

SSJG SSJ4 Goku lost to CC Gi SSJB Goku

DBH DBS Goku is in another timeline.

Xeno Goku has gone through all of GT and some of super in his life
 
Zenkaibattery1 said:
I've said this a billion times now in other threads
There are 4 Goku's.

CC Gi Goku

Xeno Goku

DBH DBS Goku

DBH GT Goku

CC Gi Goku fought Xeno Goku

Xeno Goku has SSJ4 and SSJG

SSJG SSJ4 Goku lost to CC Gi SSJB Goku

DBH DBS Goku is in another timeline.

Xeno Goku has gone through all of GT and some of super in his life
If you think about it though....CC Gi Goku is stil DBS vs Xeno Goku who's from GT (and a little of Super)
 
CC likely means Capsule Corp and Gi probably means...Gi, as in that thing Goku wears 99% of the time.
 
It isn't "super" goku per say. By that logic xeno goku is just "super goku" + "GT Goku" when they are 3 different gokus entirely

All 4 gokus have just followed different stories.
 
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