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Gilad_Hyperstar
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You're mixing Toei continuity with Manga/DBS continuity. We never saw Frieza in hell before RoF in the manga
Also, this statement is also contradicted within the Anime itself, as:
1) Goku falls into hell while traversing Snake Way on the Anime, and we see people down there
2) The Ginyu Force arrive at King Kai's Planet after their death despite their evilness
3) We see many villans from the past in the Otherworld after Goku's second death, such as The Ginyu Force (again), Frieza, King Cold and Super Perfect Cell
4) All of these villains + Babidi appear in hell (again) while watching Goku fight Kid Buu in the anime
Also, this statement is also contradicted within the Anime itself, as:
1) Goku falls into hell while traversing Snake Way on the Anime, and we see people down there
2) The Ginyu Force arrive at King Kai's Planet after their death despite their evilness
3) We see many villans from the past in the Otherworld after Goku's second death, such as The Ginyu Force (again), Frieza, King Cold and Super Perfect Cell
4) All of these villains + Babidi appear in hell (again) while watching Goku fight Kid Buu in the anime
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yeah I think this is fine, DBZ anime isn't the continuity we use.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Then show a manga panel confirming this, since what you showed is a scene from the Anime
Also, the Earth Hell basiclly hosted every evil soul who died on Earth in the linked you showed, so it either don't erase them, or everyone have resistance
Also, the Earth Hell basiclly hosted every evil soul who died on Earth in the linked you showed, so it either don't erase them, or everyone have resistance
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I agree with Gilad here; it's not so much that Hell erases souls so much as it just contains them.
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I love how we're debating this in F&G lol
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Goku isn't in hell. Goku was always in heaven and didn't ended up in Hell at any point in canon
Scan for second paragraph?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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I would like the official translation if you don't mind.
Not really, since Hell it's previous to the cleansing and erasure.
Also, if they were erased, how do they still exist in hell with their original body and memories?
Vizer04
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I couldn't find it, sorry. But either way, it's the same thing Piccolo said.
They aren't erased, they're cleaned. They're sent to Hell in order to be cleaned until they accept the "torture" and then procced to reincarnate. Frieza stayed in Hell for decades because he refused to be cleaned and therefore, he never reincarnated.
Nullflowerblush
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again, only staff members can ping others
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Knowing DDM? Factually incorrect.
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Oh god
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I'll say this: It's an interesting line of argument, but this soul cleansing machine seems to be a minor point in the series overall, I don't know much about it, and to be convinced, I'd want to see the official translation, or the original Japanese, of the Piccolo/Vegeta discussion given above.
Nullflowerblush
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Wait, is this actually supposed to be a CRT? Because, it's been in Fun and Games for awhile, and I'm getting kinda confused.
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According to the author, putting it here was a mistake.
Nullflowerblush
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I'm concerned
Rikimarox2
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Another day, another match of Nullflower vs Vizer.
What a good day.
What a good day.
Nullflowerblush
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I'm pretty sure everybody else has already bunked this topic.
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This Resistance is bullshit FRA 
Vizer04
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Would help if we saw the explanation on frieza's hell because I remember it being made for him and only him, implying he didn't go to the cleansing machine.
Also wouldn't it be resistance to morality manipulation or purification?
Also wouldn't it be resistance to morality manipulation or purification?
thetechmaster36
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Yes, something like this would fall more along the likes of Type 2 Purification.
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I can't see it.
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Wasn't the reason freiza wouldn't go the same process as vegeta because he was ...too evil for it to happen to him?
Either way it's either soul manipulation resistance. Or empathic manipulation + memory erasure resistance. Or soul manipulation + memory erasure resistance. Or purification + memory erasure resistance
Or something along these lines
Either way it's either soul manipulation resistance. Or empathic manipulation + memory erasure resistance. Or soul manipulation + memory erasure resistance. Or purification + memory erasure resistance
Or something along these lines
