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What process did Vegeta undergo again?
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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Vegeta also never got cleansed despite what Piccolo said, so this make Piccolo's statement more dubious
Vizer04
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I don't think this was ever explained. This is the only thing we know about Frieza's Hell and it still doesn't explain much.
This doesn't really disprove that Frieza would undergo the same process. The only reason Vegeta was allowed to keep his physical body was because King Yemma allowed it so he could fight Kid Buu. After that, Vegeta was resurrected because he wasn't evil anymore.
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Yeah I'm guessing this is at least resistance to some type of purification. I'm unsure about the physical body thing, but if the only contradictions are in the anime then I guess Frieza getting a resistance to EE earlier than expected is fine?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Scan? Also Kid Buu wasn't a thing yet when Vegeta died and when he returned
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I don't see anything here that would prevent soul crush, just telling you that. There are different types of soul manipulation.
I have anime if you want.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Anime isn't canon. And this thread is apperantly on canon DBZ, so I need manga scans
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I am using this, thank you. To keep this on topic, for the CRT, I'm neutral.
Nullflowerblush
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This is one of few statements we get regarding the Afterlife in the original manga; including Goku commenting on its lack of time, Goku stating that if the deceased Vegeta were to die against Kid Buu, we would be erased, and the SEG stating its gravity is a hundred times stronger than Earth's. We never see the process in action, we never see a Soul Cleansing Machine like in Fusion Reborn, nor is its existence suggested, and this is the only time something like this is brought up.
But, obviously, this didn't happen to Vegeta, as he could be brought back to Earth by Baba, and this didn't happen to Frieza, because he retained his body; on that note, one of Toyotaro's sketches depict Frieza, Sorbet, and Shisami all in Earth's Hell, although this is just a sketch.
Vizer04
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This is a totally different thing. It's not that the process didn't work on Vegeta, it's just that it wasn't applied to him at all.
King Yemma doesn't like Frieza, and doesn't keep him imprisoned willingly (he even tells Goku to get rid of him outside of Earth so he won't have to deal with the problem).
The Sorbet and Shisami thing is just Toyotaro being Toyotaro.
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Gilad_Hyperstar
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You're using an anime filler scene to prove stuff for the canon story?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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No unless we'll see a scan from the manga where he says exactly that
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Yeah just get this scene but in the manga. Or another scan that implies only their souls are kept unless King Yemma intervenes.
Vizer04
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Shouldn't this be Supernatural Willpower for Frieza instead?
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You can't win this debate unless:
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Though you won't get any multiplier from the fusion because Nullflower hates multipliers
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