1-B Doctor Who supercivilizations?

[Jockey-1337]

Hello. I found out that DW high tier supercivilizations such as Great Old Ones and Guardians should be 27-dimensional.

Mid level supercivilizations such as Daleks and Time Lords should be Low 1-B because they can go outside the multiverse and kill acausal beings such as Enigmas who are made of void.


Quotes: https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...ctor-who-gauntlet.593680/page-6#post-42745055

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask Azathoth to comment here if you wish.

 

[Jockey-1337]

I already posted a comment on his wall. Thanks.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I guess the Low 1-B stuff would be fine.

Though why is the 27-D stuff scaling to GOOs and Guardians? Even the restricted, 11-D Saraquazel was above The Great Intelligence, no?

 

[Jockey-1337]

I guess the Low 1-B stuff would be fine.
Though why is the 27-D stuff scaling to GOOs and Guardians? Even the restricted, 11-D Saraquazel was above The Great Intelligence, no?

I'm not sure about GOOs but the Guardians should be definitely beyond Saraquazel.


Also the current version of GOOs are at least 12 dimensiona simply because they exist outside of 11 dimensional space.

Tik's comments from the very topic:


Because, for the first time since the remnants of the big bang had hung in the vortex like veils of preternatural fire, since the Transcendental Beings had found themselves in their new home, Elektra had found one simpatico to her needs and her wishes... - The Quantum Archangel


So yes, they existed before the universe was formed. Not only that, but we have this quote:


All the Transcendental Beings shunned the darkness, preferring the upper levels or the SixFold Realm itself. But the dim, turbid streams of the darker strata were the perfect place for an Eternal who didn't want to be found. - The Quantum Archangel


These beings prefer being in the six fold realm but are not restricted to that or the 11 dimensions of the mainstream universe. As we see here, an Eternal is hanging around outside the 11 dimensional universe in the void (refered to here as the darker strata). Then we discover this:


As would those Transcendental Beings that had stolen away into the hidden places, regions of the multiverse that were even more remote than the darker strata, beings that had seen the universe as a challenge to be conquered, a people to be raped, an artefact of so high a price that they would destroy everything to possess it. The Great Intelligence, the Nestene Consciousness, the Animus... Especially the darkest and greatest of the Old Ones, Nyarlathotep: after what he had done, Elektra had a special place in Hell reserved for him. - The Quantum Archangel

Here we have a list of beings explicitly stated to exist beyond the 11 dimensional universe. Then:


Thoughts of the future and their unborn child were thrown aside as the Stygian gloom of the darker strata was suddenly illuminated by a brilliance that defied description. For the first time since the Big Bang had lit the vortex, the darker strata were dark no longer. They were filled by a light that was even darker. They had found them. Even in the darker strata, they had found them. Elektra and Prometheus may have been gods, but there were greater gods. Beings at the very pinnacle of existence, at the summit of the cosmic hierarchy. The Guardians. - The Quantum Archangel

The Guardians arrive outside of the 11 dimensional universe and use their powers perfectly well.

 

[The_Everlasting]

I guess the Low 1-B stuff would be fine.
Though why is the 27-D stuff scaling to GOOs and Guardians? Even the restricted, 11-D Saraquazel was above The Great Intelligence, no?

Follow Doctor Freeman found several other 1-B feats for Doctor Who, but he's sadly inactive now.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Follow Doctor Freeman found several other 1-B feats for Doctor Who, but he's sadly inactive now.

@Ever

Do you happen to have them? That could be really useful.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Sadly I don't, nor do I remember the feats.

Though there was apparently a time when the TARDIS split the 5th dimension in half, lol.

 

[Tyranno223]

Bump

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Time Lord ... Low Hyperversal... Jeez.

 

[Jockey-1337]

FROM YOUTUBE COMMENT SECTION:


Why are you giving me Dimensioneer feats? The Grace's Key to Time has no feats against it since it's been used to flick off the Guardians of Time easily,

Just as she had Monica. And look where that had got her. 'What's going to happen?' Mel heard herself ask. 'Why are they all here?' Rummas had crossed the room to join her. 'It's a sacrifice, across time and space. Across universes and multiverses. Across dimensions and ―'

It's stated that every Doctor from every universe in every multiverse is there to fight Monica Lamprey.


The book outright says the Lamprey ate the infinite multiverse down to 117,863 universes, and then by the end of the book, there was just one universe left, and apparently after the last Lamprey dies, it goes back to infinity.


And he threw himself into the spiralled crucible, dropping downwards into the dimensionally transcendental abyss, accompanied by the screeching Monica/Lamprey, sending shards of blue light around them as they fell. One more Doctor, hit squarely in the chest by some blue light disappeared forever, but the others ignored this. 'Doctor... no..' whispered Rummas. 'Oh no..' Mel didn't understand what was going on. She wasn't helped when the remaining alternative Doctors pointed their palms into the crucible and let rip. Every ounce of chronon energy they'd previously shared poured into the apex of the Spiral, shattering the sides, gouging away the spirals, and hitting both the Doctor ― her Doctor ― and the screeching Monica/Lamprey, feeding them both so much energy.


'Nothing can take that much energy.' Rummas hauled him self up off the floor, joining Mel staring over the edge of the cone into the destruction below. The spiral vortex was rent, torn open in multiple places, the energy from the assembled Doctors battering the two figures, distorting them along every dimensional plane, stretching, flattening, plumping, bloating, twisting and twirling them in so many directions. It was like a nightmarish hall of mirrors, Mel unable to tell where the Doctor began or ended, trying to ignore the shriek of primal agony that emerged from the crucible. And then with one final column of bright, almost burning, light that spat upwards it was finished. The last Mel and Rummas saw of the Monica/Lamprey was a flattened, two-dimensional image, twisting in pain at the heart of the column of light that slowly but surely split apart, atom by atom it seemed, silently evaporating as it hit the edges of the chronon energy beam until nothing was left. The Spiral Chamber was now silent and still. No spirals, no vortex, just a straightforward twenty-something-foot-deep cone, with an inverted apex.


They grounded her in the Spiral, which connects to all multiverses, and then the Doctors from all the multiverses collapsed the Spiral onto her. Whatever imprisoned all the Lampreys did it in the Spiral, so it's more like every Doctor from the Omniverse hitting her one weak spot, which is the Spiral.


"'Dead. Destroyed in the Spiral, obliterated by it completely.'" They make it clear the collapse of the Spiral is what ends Monica for good, making the Lampreys extinct.´╗┐


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUoFjtz_06U&lc=UgyzXA5PQknD7K2-thl4AaABAg.8_-OZBEZ3Jc8cARv6j_tKj

 

[Jockey-1337]

Important things:


"And he threw himself into the spiralled crucible, dropping downwards into the dimensionally transcendental abyss, accompanied by the screeching Monica/Lamprey, sending shards of blue light around them as they fell."


"the dimensionally transcendental abyss"


"The spiral vortex was rent, torn open in multiple places"


They damaged an infinite dimensional and infinite multiversal thing.

 

[Jockey-1337]

What do you think?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bump?

 

[Six_fold_god]

Bump

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bump

 

[Six_fold_god]

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