- 1,708
- 956
Introduction
This thread is a mixture of two different things. First, I will be addressing Bayonettas accepted dimensionality, and scale their hax to it. Then I’ll propose a baseline upgrade to 6-D, and then a higher interpretation (hence the title.)
Disclaimer
Please keep all discussions centered on one thing at a time. Let’s focus on agreements / disagreements of what I’m proposing down the ladder, as to not clutter the thread with multiple different arguments.
5-D Hax
This portion is quite simple. Bayonetta as a verse was accepted as 5-D due to Singularity's interference, and destruction of Ginnungagap. This would easily make his EE 5-D, but it does not end there. As described here:
Once Singularity reached his definite form, he became the World of Chaos itself, which is comprised of multiple higher dimensional spaces such as Ginnungagap. Therefore, all of his abilities, which are explicitly stated to control all Phenomenon in the World, scale to his AP.
Singularity will be given HDE on a 5-D level, and any character whose abilities can affect him scale as well. Such as Bayonetta, who we see use Witch Time on Singularity. If only for a moment. She is also the Cosmic Will described above, as capable of surpassing his own 5-S existence and overturning his definite events. Due to this, I propose HDE for Bayonetta. Characters like Jeanne that are said to be her magical equal, should have their hax scaled to 5-D as well. Same for the god tiers who can affect the World of Chaos, and their respective realms Inferno and Paradiso-- that are regarded as superior to the WoC weakened state. Making Inferno and Paradiso 5-D structures as their whole, as they were too powerful to directly interfere with during the story. Singularity's attempts at sealing them away was somewhat insufficient, Angels and Demons alike are still able to break into the WoC.
6-D and Layers
Venturing past 5-D, 6D works off the framework of the realm Ginnungagap, and the cosmology information presented in Bayonetta 2. Let's begin.
Multiple times throughout Bayonettas story, the World of Chaos is described as a Multi-layered structure, composed of an untold number of layers. In Bayonetta 2 we're given a diagram of these layers, a set of diamonds, stated to represent the Origin of each era (time), and the Universe (space).
The most important part is how these diamonds represent their Universe, and that they're described to be overlapping. Before we had no knowledge of how those layers functioned, or if they were even qualitative. But, Bayonetta 3 has given us not only one, but two examples of this. The first example is given to us by Ginnungagap. A space between worlds, that encompasses and trivializes the Multiverse by virtue of its nature. Going as far to say, that the Worlds in Bayonetta crystalize into grains of sand, which are the platforms you walk in. This is obviously enough an example of Qualitative superiority, but the excerpt does not refer to Ginnun as a layer. Thankfully, we have Nilfheim.
There it not only explicitly states that Nilfheim is a layer, but that it is a deeper layer than Ginnungagapu. Not only making a location distinction between these two layers, but also giving them the same quality as layers in their Multiverse, that are acknowledged by their size, or relative position to one another. With Ginnun being an example of a layer of Qualitative superiority when compared to the Multiverse. and Nilfheim sharing that trait of a realm not only outside the Multiverse, but deeper than Ginnungagap itself, the picture starts to paint itself. This is further proven by the Diamonds stating that these layers overlap one another, which is exactly how Ginnungagap's relationship to the Multiverse is portrayed. One larger structure overlapping and encompassing the Multiverse.
With all that in mind, I propose that all layers share the same traits, as they are grouped the same. Making Nilfheim 6-D.
15-D World of Chaos
Having established the framework for the Dimensional structure, we can discuss the other layers of their Multiverse. The Diamond diagram is supposed to represent each layer, and how they overlap with one another, If we count all overlapping diamonds, we come up with 15. Starting from 4-D, which is what their Multiverse is.
Again, the basis is that all these layers operate under the established logic that Ginnungagap, and Nilfheim follow. Overlapping layers that encompass the ones below them. Singularity is said to be capable of controlling all parallel dimensions, which is is in reference to the multiple layers of the Multiverse, and not Universes. At this point in the story all Universes have been destroyed, leaving only the alternate layers that make up their World.
Coupled with Singularity becoming the WoC itself, we have a direct character effecting all of these layers. Scaling Singularity outright to 1-B, and following the already established scaling chain.
Agree: Abu, Strife304, ZXareo, Tarang (On 6-D), WeeklyBattles, BayonettaMinaj, DDM (On 6-D), Sir-Ovens (On 6-D, likely far higher), Geo (On 6-D), TheAxiom (Agree on 6-D)
Disagree: Geo (on 15D), LuciferX (on 15D), PrinceofPein, Milly_Rocking_Bandit, @Asdtgh, @Planck69, @Lonkitt
Neutral: Tarang (On 15D, leaning towards disagree),
Last edited:
