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  1. LordNephalem

    Hey man, how is it going? I'm about to create some JoJo profiles for a brazilian wiki, so I'd...

    Hey man, how is it going? I'm about to create some JoJo profiles for a brazilian wiki, so I'd like to ask for your permission to use this calc that you made. I intend to translate it to portuguese and, of course, give you all of the credits for the calc
  2. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    I agree with you in that last thing, but I really don't think that's what Griffon meant. The funny thing is that Griffon's original statement in Japanese might even be completely different, since apparently many of the dialogues in the game have slight problems in the English version
  3. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Again, if Griffon meant that, he wouldn't use "can do" when talking about Vergil, since it wouldn't make sense grammatically. What he's saying is basically "Vergil is much more powerful than us, so knowing that you had even a little bit of trouble with us, imagine what he can do to you"
  4. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Griffon literally states that Dante had a little bit of trouble in defeating them, so you either assume that Dante had trouble with three 7-B demons or that he had a small difficulty with two that are 7-B and one that is 3-A As for what you said about Mundus fearing him and laying waste to the...
  5. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Assuming that this eventually gets accepted, I believe Nightmare should have two keys in his original profile, "Full power" and "Restrained" : "At least Universe level, possibly Universe level+ (His power could lay waste to the Demon World, which is bigger than our universe. His power was feared...
  6. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Oh, ok. It's only that the arguments against the upgrade were answered and I don't think there's anything left to discuss. I mean, it's a pretty solid upgrade
  7. LordNephalem

    Over Heaven Reality Overwrite tier upgrade (and a key addition too) [CONTINUED IN NEW THREAD]

    Oh, sorry then
  8. LordNephalem

    Over Heaven Reality Overwrite tier upgrade (and a key addition too) [CONTINUED IN NEW THREAD]

    I believe he should be straight up High 3-A, since Valentine himself states that the Over Heaven's power is infinite
  9. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Shouldn't this be applied? I don't think there are any arguments against an upgrade for Nightmare anymore
  10. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Bump
  11. LordNephalem

    Demonbane 1-As downgrade

    Wouldn't Azathoth be possibly Low 1-C? There's a quote in his profile that says he's "beyond time and space" and exists in the "outer limits of existence"
  12. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    I even forgot to mention, that interpretation would only make sense if Griffon had said "Imagine what Vergil would do to you", which he didn't
  13. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    The fact that Mundus, a tier 3 being, feared Nightmare's power and had to restrain it because of such fear isn't evidence for Nightmare being a tier 3? I don't get how saying "This doesn't support 3-A for Nightmare" automatically invalidates the argument, but ok. With your interpretation...
  14. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Laying waste to the demon world would simply be considered further evidence for tier 3, that's all. What you said about Mundus contradicts the manga, since its clearly stated that Mundus himself feared Nightmare and his power. Nothing suggests that he was simply afraid of Nightmare attacking...
  15. LordNephalem

    Nightmare (DMC) upgrade

    Nightmare is currently at the 7-B tier by scalling from other characters like Griffon and Echidna. This also applies to the "familiar version" that we see in DMC5. DMC1 Nightmare However, chapter 8 of the manga Visions of V gives us more details about Nightmare's origin. According to it...
  16. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    That's just in the one calc that was based in a YouTube video, which is wrong btw
  17. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    Just checked the ring calc again, I don't get why you're using the weight of a small moon. I mean, sure, WoG states that the rings have the size of a small moon (which is far from what we see in the movie, but whatever), but the rings are made of a completely different material and also have a...
  18. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    Dante scales to Cerberus and Griffon, who have casual 8-A and 7-B feats. It's easy to prove that dying from a collapsing island would be a PIS for him And I don't see the point or bringing the DCEU up, every franchise has to be analyzed individually. You can't expect that every single antifeat...
  19. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    There's context behind that. We know that DB characters can control the range of their attacks, that explains how a small ki explosion can damage a 4-B character About Dante, that's just a PIS that contradicts almost every other feat in the franchise, even the ones that aren't 3-A or Low 2-C...
  20. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    Btw, there is more than 1 antifeat Not only was Surtur obliterated by a 6-C explosion, Hela was destroyed by an attack that was canonically weaker than said explosion She didn't even get damaged and died from her wounds, she just straight up exploded
  21. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    Wait... the size of a small moon? That'd be a really small moon then, in the movie it's clearly the size of a few city blocks
  22. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    Is it worth calcing Surtur destroying Asgard? I mean, not the whole realm (which apparently has context behind it), but that initial explosion that burns the city It seems like a big deal to Surtur, since he only uses that attack when it's really necessary
  23. LordNephalem

    The MCU changes. Edit: Looks like we need to finalize some stuff and we need to do more work on the calcs

    I don't think it's that much of a low-ball, since he seems to be already touching (or at least very close to) the meteor, but anyway, 6-C seems fine. Btw, is all of the KE from the meteor being applied against Stark even though they are largely different in size?
  24. LordNephalem

    Revising the MCU. Part 2

    Is there a hidden context behind every single feat in the MCU?
  25. LordNephalem

    Revising the MCU. Part 2

    Yeah, just watched the scene in slow motion, apparently Hela gets completely destroyed when the sword hits her, so she dies even before the High 6-C explosion. Surtur should be at least 7-B just by that, right?
  26. LordNephalem

    Revising the MCU. Part 2

    Regarding the meteor feat, when Thanos destroys the moon's surface, if you check the colors used in the scene, you'll notice that he used the power gem (purple) and then the space gem (blue), though the space gem is no longer being used when the meteorites hit the planet, so I always assumed...
  27. LordNephalem

    Revising the MCU. Part 2

    Just checked the actual scene and you're right. A bunch of trees do get taken down, but definitely not in a mile radius, as there are still lots of trees completely fine behind Thor
  28. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    My interpretation is that Surtur knows that his final attack is going to destroy not only Asgard, but also himself, so he only uses it in that one situation. I mean, it makes more sense than to assume that he tanked the explosion and then died for no reason And tbf it's pretty consistent at...
  29. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    About this, we'd have to assume that: Thanos closing his hand > Surtur's suicidal attack, which is just nonsense, so yeah most likely an outlier
  30. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    No one tanked it, the attack actually killed Hela and Surtur (both superior to Thor at his peak). I even think that if the downgrades get approved, Surtur's profile should have something like "7-B normally. High 6-C via suicidal attack" That obviously wouldn't scale to his durability btw
  31. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    He has a calc, he is High 6-C via an attack that also destroyed himself
  32. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    I see, thanks for clearing it up. I guess Thor, Thanos and etc are just tier 7 now
  33. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    It was calced at 6-C based on being forged at Nivadellir
  34. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    Crushing the Mjolnir. Though I don't know anything about the recent revisions about feats that involve heat and Mjolnir's durability is 100% based in heat
  35. LordNephalem

    Possible MCU Downgrades

    Wait, why isn't Hela's 6-C feat being taken in consideration? I read most of the thread and I don't get that
  36. LordNephalem

    JoJo Feats Revision

    That's sad. Did you take into consideration that they were underwater and that would upgrade the result? You probably did, I'm just trying to deal with one of my favorite feats in JoJo not being 8-B
  37. LordNephalem

    JoJo Feats Revision

    That'd be great. Also, someone should calc Star Platinum destroying the giant diamond teeth. I mean, a guy did calculate it here, but he just states that he won't be considering the teeth as durable as diamonds in his calc because it's likely an hyperbole, which is weird, because there is no...
  38. LordNephalem

    JoJo Feats Revision

    You forgot things like RHCP 8-B calc being accepted as completely fine, but the fact that he used all of that energy on Crazy Diamond / Josuke (who obviously survived) is ignored because...? Also, Part 8 Kira's SHA causing a tsunami, which is 8-B, but was completely ignored when someone...
  39. LordNephalem

    Devil May Cry: Previously Inconclusive Feats

    Well, each one of the dimensions was filled with those strange purple rocks that only grow in Malphas body and in her "cave". So we know that the alternate dimensions are somehow related to her. In the enemy files, Nico states that creating a nightmare version of Goliath (which V fights to...
  40. LordNephalem

    Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) - Speed feat

    Lol I forgot about this, but does it even matter at this point?
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