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  1. FalseTrajectory

    Riordanverse Discussion Thread

    I am indeed. I while do so ASAP. What's the best way to contact them?
  2. FalseTrajectory

    Riordanverse Discussion Thread

    Sorry, I've been out of the game for a little bit, but is this in relation to a CRT you're working on? If so, I have been working on an absurdly massive CRT of every Demigod in the Riordanverse for the past 2 years & have collated quite a curated collection of referenced quotes & scaling that...
  3. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Piper's narration is way too vague to be used to determine an accurate time frame imo. However, you can infer that it didn't take hours based on the situation. Due to the nebulousness of the timeframe, estimating the timeframe seems like the only option, which I dislike. However, determining...
  4. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Yes, and since its a once off statement with so many unknowns, it can't be used to give gods explicitly MHS reactions. I agree that the Mellie feat is a bit suspect. However, for the Blackjack feat, we aren't given an exact time frame for how long it took him to travel there, or even the...
  5. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    There is no evidence to suggest that Zeus "caught" the wind gods while they were in their true forms or teleporting. We simply do not know how Zeus attached them to his chariot. Additionally, my point about the wind gods being able to react to "teleporting" gods as soon as they enter the sky...
  6. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I do have some grievances with the scaling used to give the Olympians MHS+ reaction speeds. Stating God's are MHS+ because they are massively superior to Demigod's who have (at best) Super-Sonic reaction speeds (which hasn't been agreed on) because Ares was holding back in his fight with a 12...
  7. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I have been working on a Demigod speed, strength and durability CRT for the better part of a year. Its only taken me that long because I went a bit over-board with notetaking and have been stuck sifting through over 100 pages of notes for the last 3 months. Lately, with uni and work I've...
  8. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I mean we could calculate it based on his feat of casually spiking the Argo II from Greece to New York in less than a minute. Even though Zeus was 100 ft tall in this feat, and "almost half as tall" as Typhon when he trapped the monster (which based on estimates would put him between 1000 to...
  9. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I mean there were a lot of pauses during the conversation where Percy felt awkward and didn't want to say anything or wanted to not bother Annabeth as well as whenever Percy was observing what was going on around him as opposed to talking. There's also that big time-skip between them taking...
  10. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    This is a legit feat, aside from the somewhat ambiguous timeframe:
  11. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    But which assumed time frame? The one given by the timeline of events in the book or the one loosely insinuated by the pacing and wording? Personally, I think there are too many long pauses and time-skips in the conversation for it to be used as an accurate gauge for how long things took.
  12. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Even with those justifications the time it took for them to travel that distance still wouldn't be under an hour.
  13. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I looked at the calc and it doesn't take into account the time between them getting air-borne and Leo starting the conversation, which consists of a lengthy inner-monologue by Piper. Sure it probably didn't take much time, but it didn't take no time either.
  14. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    There's a time jump between them leaving the airfield and the conversation taking place as well as long lapses of time between parts of their conversation which makes it extremely hard to pin down an exact time-frame for their journey. However, if you take into account the timeline of events we...
  15. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    We've never actually gotten any indication that gods can actually fight while teleporting, just that the wind gods can stop other gods from getting past them if they try to teleport. How exactly they manage to do so is a mystery. The same goes for teleportation and its exact mechanics. All...
  16. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    For the speed, I think it would be more accurate to say: At least supersonic+ reaction and combat speed (Superior to Ephialtes, who could react to lightning). As no feats above super-sonic+ for the gods were approved and Demigods have never actually surpassed Ephialtes in terms of reaction or...
  17. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    There are a couple of potentially super-sonic Demigod reaction feats, but none of them are clear-cut. The two that I can think of off the top of my head are Percy reacting to potentially super-sonic Molotov cocktail cannonballs in SoM and Percy (and other Demigods) reacting to arrows fired by...
  18. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Alright. That's 4 votes for and none against. Is that enough votes for the new rating to be added to the god's profiles or should there be a grace period before any changes are made?
  19. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Here's the link: https://vsbattles.com/threads/dropping-the-riordanverse-tier-by-smiting-it-with-zeus-lightning-bolt.131446/post-4586134
  20. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Alright. What are your thoughts on gods having super-sonic+ reactions and combat speeds due to Poseidon scaling to Ephialtes combat and reaction speed? The sooner a verdict is reached regarding the god's reaction speed the sooner this CRT can be closed.
  21. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    The holding the sky feat isn't a feat of physical strength but mental strength. Artemis and Poseidon both stated that it was a feat of incredible will, not incredible strength. Even if there was some physical component to the feat it would be impossible to accurately pinpoint an exact numerical...
  22. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I am planning on doing a Demigod speed, strength, and durability CRT in the future, but if this scaling is agreed on in this CRT wouldn't super-sonic+ reaction and combat speeds be able to be added to the god's profiles immediately? Edit: I just realized you were referring to the somewhat...
  23. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I apologize for not getting back to everyone about the feats and future calcs I had mentioned. I have not completed them due to issues regarding the relevant quotes, namely that each has limitations to accurate the values obtained from said feats are. I found the idea that Percy and Jason's...
  24. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Found the quote. This is Apollo make the statement so he should know what the beam is actually is, however, since he required godly vision to see the beams and directly stated that Demigods shouldn't be able to see it they aren't the same glowing blue beams that Poseidon fired as Percy could...
  25. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I would say no as Hades does the same and his beams are described as black "energy". This could mean it either varies between gods (and Hades is a lot closer to Poseidon than Athena in terms of power) or if Percy's simply didn't know what the beams were and were describing them based on their...
  26. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Since we never get any indication of how the battle went after Percy left we honestly can't say. Could I get a quote for Athena's staff shooting lasers? It was never described as a laser just as an arc of blue light by someone who has no idea what it actually is. Statements of it being...
  27. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Well as I said there's no evidence of Oceanus reacting to the blast so it can't really be used as a reaction feat either way. I concede that the sea boiling with energy doesn't counts as the beam being described as energy, but the Trident glowing with blue light doesn't mean that the beam it...
  28. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I don't think you could really say that its consistently shown or stated to be explicitly be a beam of light. Sure its described to look like a beam of light but that doesn't mean that's what it is, especially when its described as just blue energy just as often. Here's the only instance I...
  29. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I would say no. From what we are given there is no reason to assume that the beam fired by Poseidon was anywhere close to light-speed or that Oceanus reacted to the light from said beam or the beam itself. The beam is described as both being some nebulous blue energy in the second last...
  30. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I did bring this feat up in a different thread about the Riordanverse and I think it should be quantifiable unless of course there's some Greek mythological tale that states the ground is not actually earth and rock that I am unaware of. Here's the quote for reference:
  31. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Since we're bringing up calcs for the Master Bolt I ended up getting 6.6e+8 Terrajoules or about 15700 Megatons of TNT, using the average yield a firecracker and the average yield of a modern Hydrogen Bomb. However, due to this calc being based on a possibly hyperbolic statement made by Chiron...
  32. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    The sky feat is nebulous at best and unusable at worst. Every single statement about the feat squarely places it as a feat of will, not physical strength. This feat is a pretty good as it can be easily calculated due to the information provided. A bit nebulous, but it is supported by other...
  33. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    But we still don't have a time-frame, the number of gods involved or even the sea that was vaporised. The feat overall gives us a ball-park for the strength of the gods, but not specifics regarding how it can be applied to the profiles of the gods involved. There's also the fact that his feat...
  34. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Their True Forms are not the same as their Devine Forms, they never use their True Forms in combat as it severely cripples them elsewhere as it summons their fractured essence and all of their power into a single place. They were using their Devine Forms in their fight with Typhon and in their...
  35. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I mean it would still be more accurate, because while their avatars range in power, their Devine forms shouldn't and mixing the stats of the two different forms would make the profiles even more inconsistent.
  36. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I think Devine Form | Godly Avatar would be the more appropriate key. There's no real evidence to suggest they got weaker between ancient and modern times, there is however quite a bit of evidence to suggest that their avatars are significantly weaker than their Devine Forms. Everything from...
  37. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    For the previously mentioned reaction feats, I am currently calculating them. For those that require some interpretation I will post them here so that a verdict can be reached on how valid they are and what should be done with them. I'm currently busy with uni atm so I won't be able to get...
  38. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    I would like to point out that Percy's bullet deflection feat in TTC might not even be the best reaction feat for a Demigod in verse. There are several feats I can think of that could dethrone the aforementioned feat once quantified. These feats being: Percy and Jason reacting to Ephialtes...
  39. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    There was. Its basically an off-hand remark about the Titan-Olympian war: Since it doesn't mention the number of gods involved we can't attribute it to the AP of a single one. Additionally, this is coming from an in-universe book that was written by someone who knows very little about what...
  40. FalseTrajectory

    Dropping the Riordanverse Tier by smiting it with Zeus' Lightning Bolt

    Both of those calcs aren't at all what Zeus did in PJ's GG. The Common Feat calc assumes the water must've first been vaporised to form rain clouds, and uses the energy it takes to achieve that as basis for the tiering. It doesn't factor in time or make sense considering the context. The...
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