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  1. NoodIes67

    Kaguya new key + Naruto Massive Upgrades

    She is the one who created the ETSB, It is stated here that Kaguya is the one who produced the orb itself, and seeing as she did this with her own chakra this would scale to her. The whole she absorbed the chakra of the shinobi alliance thing is already debunked by the fact that even the shinobi...
  2. NoodIes67

    Kaguya new key + Naruto Massive Upgrades

    What is the basis of the claim that Kaguya wouldn't scale to her ETSB?
  3. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    Not that I'm aware of, I don't believe they've ever cut anything on that level or even clashed with wolverines claws.
  4. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    These claws are made of bone as well so it's unlikely they scale to wolverines adamantium claws anyway.
  5. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    No durability and Regenerationn don't correlate to each other.
  6. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    Do you have evidence to suggest his blade ignores durability KLO?
  7. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    His page wouldn't change then, he would just continue to have durability negation.
  8. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    If you give me access to the page I can go ahead and do it, I think it's locked.
  9. NoodIes67

    Wolverine's claws have durability negation?

    It's already been accepted someone just needs to update the pages.
  10. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    That is a likely possibility, so you could assume that his ap does not scale to shukaku's, but gamabunta was capable of tanking a few attacks from shukaku's air blasts however was one shotted by shinra tensei. and Kakashi proceeded to tank 2 of these shinra tensei's as well. Shukaku's wind...
  11. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    I've never heard of elemental intangibility before, nor do I really understand what that means. The intangibility that is referenced on the tailed beasts pages is when the tailed beasts are specifically shown in their pure energy states. "Although the Bijuu transform into physical matter and...
  12. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    Both gaara and naruto are able to interact with shukaku, and shukaku also interacts with the environment, so he is not intangible, and the tailed beasts composition is solely chakra so he wouldn't be made out of sand either.
  13. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    Yeah regardless of what they end up placing the biju and gamabunta at, kakashi's durability should still scale above gamabunta so unless Kakashi has some big durability anti feats this should be the scaling for pain arc kakashi and above.
  14. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    Unless otherwise shown we wouldn't assume he is holding back. pain even states that Kakashi is not someone who he would want to keep alive as he could cause difficulty for him later, so he especially has no reason to hold back against him.
  15. NoodIes67

    Sage Mode Naruto and Pain

    Kakashi is also directly able to tank 2 shinra tensei attacks at point blank range, the same attack that broke every bone in gamabunta's body. Durability feat 1- here - here Durability feat 2- here - here Gamabunta getting bodied- here I think this should constitute an upgrade for kakashi...
  16. NoodIes67

    Shinra Tensei is Light Speed (Naruto)

    The wave would not just randomly decelerate, it should maintain a constant speed until it comes into contact with another force or object that slows it down. The wave however would not be light speed as gravitational waves are only light speed within a vacuum, but the wave in Naruto would be...
  17. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    I assumed that, that would be the case after the biju's 6C rating was brought into question. As long as the characters scaling is updated I'm fine with waiting on the calc teams to finish.
  18. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    I'm now going to respond to the supposed "debunks" of these characters scaling to the biju. I've already shown why sakura's AP does not scale to sasori, so unless you actually have an argument as to why she does, you cannot claim she does. Now for starters, the entire akatsuki is not being...
  19. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Sakura being biju level in the war arc is fine, as she scales above Tsunade, both characters have no anti feats, MS sasuke should also scale to the biju and he also has no anti feats, kcm 2 naruto is literally a perfect jinchuriki of the 9 tails so he should also obviously be biju level. The...
  20. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Obviously there will be other characters affected by the upgrade, You are not discussing those characters though, what you are discussing is whether the biju are 6C, instead of doing that why don't you actually try and bring up contradictions and anti-feats because so far you've fallen flat and...
  21. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    The characters that are being scaled to the biju are listed at the top of the thread once again this discussion of whether the biju are truly 6C is irrelevant to the characters scaling and to this thread.
  22. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Okay this discussion is completely irrelevant to whether the characters scale to the biju, we can make another thread that details whether the biju are actually 6C later, This thread is specifically for the purpose of scaling the characters that are listed at the top of the thread to the biju...
  23. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Where are you getting 6-B full kurama and KCM 2 Naruto in his biju mode state literally oneshot all of the biju, so none of the biju scale to the 9 tails, the 9 tails should be the most significant part of the 10 tails so it would make sense that he would scale to it. The 9 tails omce again has...
  24. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Kcm 2 naruto is a perfect jinchuriki of the 9 tails how is that inconsistent?
  25. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    ^^^Yes. This is supported by the fact that the 8 tails directly states he is using his full power, so this would be a logical conclusion as to why the blast appeared smaller.
  26. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Once again this argument in relation to the characters being surprised at the DC of the biju has been refuted, as DC does not equal AP and being surprised at the DC of an attack does not contradict your AP being on that level because the characters could simply be impressed by the AoE and saying...
  27. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Yeah that's because Tsunade doesn't have the destructive capacity to slice a mountain in half, and you can still be surprised by things that are weaker than you. If a rat fell on my head from the ceiling, I'd be surprised as hell.
  28. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Unless you can actually bring up contradictions it doesn't matter. This would just mean that the old scaling is wrong and that was the entire purpose of this thread as the wiki has been inconsistent for a long time now. I basically included everyone that would scale to the akatsuki on this list...
  29. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    In the large island level biju bomb calc, the size of the mountain is not assumed nor is vaporization assumed. "325.88 / 19 = 17.1515789 x 51 (height of one of the mountains) = 874.730524 (Height) 17.1515789 x 104 (radius of that same mountain) = 1783.76421m (Radius) Volume =...
  30. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Also damage, I not only showed the raikage directly hurting the 8 tails, I also showed deidera one tapping the 3 tails, and then I showed how garaa scales above deidera's C3 and to Rasa who can subdue shukaku. After that I displayed how the 3rd kazekage was stated to be stronger than both gaara...
  31. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    I agree with tenpin, there is nothing to suggest that the 8 tails didn't have enough time to make a fully charge biju bomb, and you are using an AoE fallacy, like not every ki blast in dragonball destroys the planet they're on but we know regular ki blasts can do that, so it's just an...
  32. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Okay now we've basically gotten to the point where the people arguing against this upgrade are contradicting the wiki's justification for the biju's durability being large island level. So at this point we've basically proven that these characters do scale to the biju's durability and it has now...
  33. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Ah then yes, I was under the impression she defeated it, regardless we still have her scaling physically in power above the raikage so she still would be biju level.
  34. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Is the scan of onoki blocking the attacks of the susanoo clones before or after Tsunade hits her susanoo clone.
  35. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    No she did beat that susanoo clone, there was just multiple of them hence why onoki is surrounded by them, those were different clones than the one Tsunade fought.
  36. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    because sakura's durability would not be 6C so it would not be a 6C feat to pierce her, his iron sand also pierces sakura. This was just to prove that sakura in no way scales to sasori, as she is unable to affect his iron sand's durability and is also damaged by both his puppet's sword and his...
  37. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    I'm going to quote myself form earlier. "Sasori doesn't have 6C durability" but his ap would scale above both rasa and gaara via his 3rd kazekage puppet.
  38. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    Sasori literally bodied sakura anyway. here
  39. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    She doesn't have chakra enhanced durability to the extent of her ap as the databook explicity states that she concentrates her chakra into her fists. and she is never shown to use this technique with her durability or even shown the capability to apply it to her durability.
  40. NoodIes67

    Naruto AP High 6-C Character Revision Thread

    I'm not saying Sakura has hit gaara's sand I'm saying when gaara and rasa's sand is hit by something else it splatters and moves, and yes his iron sand can crack if it has a high enough concentration of iron, and I believe it is entirely made of iron, or it could also be reminiscent of gaara's...
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