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True, just thought I'd point out that Shaka did have an idea on "Shun-Hades" power, from it rising from way above Ikki level to 1000 times said "above that starting effort", prior to confronting him.
Worth mentioning that Shaka arrived to "Shun-Hades" after Shaka sensed Hades Cosmos rising, the same "Shun-Hades" whom was "fighting" Ikki the (Ikki did nothing) chapter prior then upped the level 1000 times.
Do with that what you will.
Thing is that what I claim actually have 4 bases (Shaka saying, Athena calling out for the possibility of damage, Athena actually taking effort to stop the attacks, Hashun's reaction), which makes Shaka actually scaling higher than Ikki, on this case
This really would be believable to me
But...
The only way that could possibly happen in the face of ikki being unable to even scratch him, is if Hades shun was holding back by more than a 1000 times. And thus there wouldn’t be any scaling anyways.
Well, we are going to bring the profiles back, just better. So I suppose the thread is...
The main reason I disagree, is because the previous chapter, a character comparable to Virgo could not damage hades in any way, even while hades only used 1/1000 of his total power. Virgo thinking he could defeat Hades must then be a case of Pis.
If you're superhumanly fast and at least a little bit resistant to heat by virtue of having immense durability, absolutely. Again, I must emphasize I'm not entirely negating what you're saying, I'm just noting that it's less impressive than you're trying to present. Large gaps in temperature...
A being as hot as plasma is near you. Do you survive punching him.
Yes they do
Blue fire is irrelevant, Dabi has blue fire and his heat is beyond 3000 c passively, still relying on visuals eh?
His first move on Hood was Jetburn to push him away. You are misremembering or not understanding...
Ant and Deagon have already stated their opinons. Everyone doesn’t need to agree about every single nuanced detail regarding the proposal. The general premise has been accepted by an unprecedented margin. Prolonging the application of such a unanimously agreed upon thread over some minor...
Pre-headshot Accelerator is used
Etzali is in his first key because I don't even remember what the other two keys do
Starting distance is 10 meters
Speed equalized
Spear of Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli:
"Light is harmless":
Incon:
It used to be extremely easy to achieve edits in the past because comments on our former external forums held by Fandom counted as an edit. Now, not so much, unless you know how to properly edit our pages.
(i harassed deagon once more)
i agree. my sole gripe was exactly as i said:
"more impressive" and "superior" aren't putting numbers to it.
you're just comparing the two, which further reinforces my point about it being an unquantifiable thing.
again, i agree it shouldn't be layered, but i...
Analytical Prediction is a little harder to quantify that fire is, sure, but it's still not something we should be ascribing layers to, because "skill" or even intelligence as a whole is something we do quantify on this site based purely on feats.
And I would not say it's that difficult...
I figured no one has replied to the OP so here is the reply.
Majority of all what is in the OP is based off a faulty standard that got passed that is getting overturned and a single scan.
N.B. I will only reply to the OP and no one else, i.e. @BasedNecoScaler69 is the only one I will argue...
Something I want to bring up is that I think we need to be more clear with what exactly can be layered on the site. I've seen a lot of people claim certain abilities like "analytical prediction" or "fire manipulation" can be layered, when that doesn't really make much sense because these are...
Gold saints are all somewhat comparable to each other (Hasty just said Shura is the strongest gold knight, Saga has a statement that his Galaxian Explosion is comparable to Temna Kofuku on his profile (poor Camus, I have no point for his strength here)) and he beat 3 of those until they were...
Ohhhh so the 8th sense makes you 1000 times stronger. Good thing ikki has it then.
Ikki doesn’t have a silver cloth???
How does a showing of hax mean anything for stats.
What? Just to begin, 8th sense.
Shaka also gets 8th sense so you can't just say he's never been stronger than Sanctuary arc (also from what I understand/iirc, wasn't Ikki on his Silver cloth when he fought Hades?
How can you say that when Shaka beat, as I mentioned earlier, Saga, Camus and...
Why is Shaka being 1000x stronger than Ikki wrong? Well, for starters, in ND, Ikki considers saga to be stronger than Shaka. Saga hasn’t changed in power since Ikki fights him, in account of being dead. Saga obviously wasn’t 1000 times stronger than Ikki. Also, Ikki fights Shaka during the...
I'm not calculating anything, the manga is proving what I'm saying by its own
So because of how the story is, I guess yes, at that point Shaka was 1000x stronger than Ikki because Hashun felt threatened by him?
You can't say that seeing Hashun's reaction to Shaka's threat, simple like that
I’m not saying hades isn’t feeling threatened or whatever. I’m just saying it’s unusable for scaling unless you think Shaka is 1000x times stronger then Ikki.
Even if Shaka is stronger than Ikki, He’s not 1000x stronger. They are comparable to one another. Because Ikki failed to hurt Hashun at...
You prematurely got my last thread closed before Ultima could respond to my reply, so no, Ultima did not reject it. He was under the impression that the corridor served only one universe. He never got the chance to respond to my correction.
One scan says a "space-time far away", the other scan...
Should yeah.
It doesn’t matter. At all. Hades shun tanked an attack from Ikki with no Damage. Hades shun then revealed he could use 1000 times more power. This would put his peak at over 1000 times stronger than ikki. The concept of shaka harming him at that point is utterly ridiculous.
I still have a few problems with this, but I should first highlight one thing.
I assume you're trying to argue that the corridor is a space in between/containing the multiverse, and it in turn has its own overarching form of time?
No offense, but I really don't think it helps you out in the...
The Profiles for Saint Seiya need to be deleted. (Also a quick thing here; Anime and manga information is to be kept separate as their separate cosmologies and canons. All profiles use a mix of those.)
To give some quick examples,
Then we have some issues with calculations
Starting off with...
It was agreed upon in the DB general that a new thread should be made once the hyper-timeline shit is done, which it now is. @ProfectusInfinity made the original thread here , ive just decide to revise it a lil bit, as the old one relied too heavily on DT and ultimas comments, which made an...