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  1. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    2-A Mooncell Question

    Yeh yeh, I know. Have classes anyway, so yeah, washing my hands out of this.
  2. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    2-A Mooncell Question

    Because who the **** cares about A or B if it ain't relevant to C? "Oh damn, Olympic runners are so fast! So why are you so damn slow!?" That's literally your argument, assuming some homogeneity of some kind (which again, let's not even tackle the actual context of Kama, since the assertion that...
  3. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    2-A Mooncell Question

    I come here to just check on a few chats and what I see is a blatant inability to even engage what I say. This is the kind of shit that has made me stop caring. You don't acknowledge what I said about why infinite timelines are bullshit. You don't even realize the basic fact that for "Alaya"...
  4. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    2-A Mooncell Question

    I already said I don't particularly care how what I said is used. Really, there are already a number of issues with "higher dimensions" being treated as ontologically superior in nasuverse, which is a terrific joke, to say the least, but any attempt of mine to tackle that is for the far future...
  5. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    2-A Mooncell Question

    I've mostly removed myself from VsBattle stuff in general, at least in here, but since Hasty brought it up, I just decided to comment my overall thoughts since am sure it was known I don't support 2-A in the slightest. Do with what I said as you will, as my willpower for VS stuff has been kinda...
  6. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Edelweiss coming for that spot baby.

    Gotta agree with Ion. We don't assume willpower is enough by now unless it is outright said. The usual thing here is, if it's not stated to be a weakness, assume it is a resistance of the character. So instead of "this technique is weak to strong willpowers" if it's framed as "this person...
  7. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Oh no, I know it wasn't something physical. I simply mean, isn't the act of the burning to acquire the energy, and said energy that was acquired to pull off AAS, be counted as 2 different things? Because the first was required to acquire the second. So if the comparison was made to the...
  8. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Personally, I think they should be the same or closely comparable. The explanation that Saber provides on the matter of the 3 main types of NP back in F/SN sounds like Anti-Unit and Anti-Army mainly differ by AoE. As I mentioned before, even though it's AoE is a lot more massive, Sieg is still...
  9. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Uuuh... just to clarify. The incineration of the earth was the act through which Goetia accumulated the energy for the AAS. Burning sentient beings created even more energy in return- So if it's talking about the burning, isn't it talking about what he did all through part 1, instead of the...
  10. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Edelweiss coming for that spot baby.

    This looks like a funny match up, so am kinda keeping an eye.
  11. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    ... If I have the genuine patience, I am gonna talk later. I can't do this right nw.
  12. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    The specific calc doesn't matter I believe, just something proper that is pretty powerful. I mainly mentioned the Gugalanna one because if it can kill even Divine Beasts, then being at least comparable to the attack of one sounds reasonable. Especially since Ishtar's second NP is making...
  13. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    How about looking for information from the source material: The gathered list of translated material book profiles. Looking for what you want to look up: https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/6951-Fate-Grand-Order-Mats?p=2845004&viewfull=1#post2845004 (this being Spartacus' mats...
  14. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    I mean- For the interim, you can just scale it to the top values we have for any NP. It is pretty much at the top, or near the top, of the pinnacle we have for brute strength NPs. Sefar is not 2-A, but she's still damn strong even at 64 m tall. And Achilles shield, which should withstand...
  15. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    So, again, both VS and K&K are for sure not 2-A now, with a caveat for possibly on VS unless the majority still considers the lack of proof sufficient to discard even that.
  16. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    Or, because we change the details of profiles all the damn time, you could assume with common sense that the profile is wrong, and not state facts like the profile couldn't possibly be wrong, or at least ask instead of state stuff like this: Just maybe, if I am not agreeing with it, there is an...
  17. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    I mean, if the majority really thinks that even Possibly is a no no, I don't mind dropping it. But going off the definition of "Possibly" as a rating, I think is a good way to settle the doubts because we really don't know if even top gods are off the possible kill zone of Vasavi. Even if it...
  18. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Let's keep it to VS and not stray off unnecessarily. The point remains though. By pure feats, all that Vasavi has killed is a Sefar that is not 2-A. Everything beyond that is in the realm of speculation with no solid ground to support it on. At best, it would warrant a "Possibly".
  19. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    If he had to use Krishna to absorb all of the rest of the pantheon, how did he absorb Krishna...? If Kirshna has the capacity to absorb every God in the massive Hindu Pantheon, how does that make him a mid-tier?
  20. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    This is a leap in logic, actually. The moment he says "no, it's even greater still" with no context, it could be greater by a small amount or an infinite amount. We just know it's greater, but not by how much. All I get from him making the comparison is that he is feeling a great surge of...
  21. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    So, again... Sefar at the end of Extella has no reason to be 2-A, and by consequence neither does Vasavi Shakti, nor Pashupata, nor Mahapralaya. It should still scale, at the bare minimum, to the strongest NPs we can find that aren't dura neg stuff. Now let me see if I can stop stressing about...
  22. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    This is what you said. So why in the blazes are you saying this now? Why did you decide to argue how stuff happened if you lack information and only know the feat superficially? Why are you stating stuff like fact and then pull off the "oh well I just didn't know" card? Like, this shit: Why...
  23. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Maybe if it was Excalibur Proto, who is shown to work like that. But normal Excalibur never has done so. Saber even shows hers has restrictions as well, and she unlocks some of that in her Trial Quest. But they work completely different than Proto's restrictions. And if Saber Venus could also...
  24. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Am worried who you have classes with if that's what they are struggling with. For me, is more...

    Am worried who you have classes with if that's what they are struggling with. For me, is more having to get an intership. Some work hours are part of graduation. That is actually what I was thinking while checking the profiles. The first one doesn't even have a justification in Vash's page, and...
  25. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Trigun CRT #3: Plants - powers and abilities additions

    I am not against the mere idea of causality manipulation, just that if we have the japanese outright available, it could be fruitful to try and reach out to anyone with some proficiency in Japanese.
  26. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Under what conditions can it have this tier? Why does it have it here and not there? Did it have this tier when it killed Sefar? Did it not? Based on what? It is all baseless conjecture that we have no way of answering, so whatever we arrive at is gonna be a leap of logic. So by Occam's Razor...
  27. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    College makes me stressed, so the usual. I would recommend you ask Ion, actually. I've been...

    College makes me stressed, so the usual. I would recommend you ask Ion, actually. I've been more involved on just general discussion. Been wanting to do a reformed profile for the outdated Darsh, but I've been focusing on studies.
  28. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    The feat consisted of Spartacus getting hurt continuously by the meteor, buffing himself with Crying Warmonger, and doing it to such an extent that his Saint Graph got completely destroyed and he can't even be summoned again... How... how is "buffed continuously by an NP until complete...
  29. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Oh, you mean the one killed in ancient times under completely unknown circumstances, which can't scale in any way to Arthuria because we are freaking tired of being shown what Excalibur can do while wielded by her, and it has never been 2-A? Do you also want to scale Summer Raikou's Vajra to...
  30. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Texture and a core... even though Holmes explained there is a planet under all the textures... I will now proceed to disregard whatever you say until you start talking about something with common sense.
  31. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions

    Da Vinci has two entirely different quotes, though... One where she's discussing with Sherlock that the safeguards of the planet make that impossible, and another in which she simply says no Noble Phantasm has that potential destructive capacity in the first place. One is a conversation with...
  32. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Immeasurable speed characters updating

    I would emphasize to focus on the main thing- Traversing time through speed alone like you were traversing through space. Is hard for me to put it into words, but tier 2 and above shouldn't count off the mere fact that even if the AoE reaches forwards and backwards in time, it isn't made...
  33. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Trigun CRT #3: Plants - powers and abilities additions

    I would imagine in essence it simply refers to hyper-precise manipulation of matter, meaning that anything on the scale of the plank length is fair game.
  34. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    You are either misconstruing me or completely unable to grasp what I mean at any point. I never said this, and the fact you imply so sounds like a terrible strawman. I simply said that if anything in the LN happened that would render the VS feat inapplicable, then I would be all for discarding...
  35. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Borderland Calcs nee-oh god these pretzels suck

    Issue is that requesting in the thread is knowing that it will likely not happen at all, and being pretty much a leap of faith whether someone grabs interest. The only options possible is hoping for the best in the thread, trying to look for someone directly, or do it ourselves. Alternatively...
  36. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    More like a number of details are different. Some say for fun, others say it is because Urobutcher is a hack. Let me tell you some of them in private message to not derail from this.
  37. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    Whatever do you mean? The thing about it being an alternate timeline :O?
  38. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    Just to clarify, I am not dismissing it because is different. I am dismissing the silly idea that if there's something in the novel that could contradict the feat, to just disregard it and go for what the anime shows "because alternate universes". This before even tackling that I do not like the...
  39. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Nasuverse: Base Servant Stats Revisions

    No, an attitude of dismissing all contradictions assumes that information is consistent, and even if "all adaptations are just alternate timelines" the consistency comes first. It is bogus and intellectually dishonest to even imply multiple timelines suddenly means consistency is unimportant. It...
  40. LSirLancelotDuLacl

    Trigun CRT #3: Plants - powers and abilities additions

    You could try asking Shiro in case he's free, if you want someone else to check the japanese.
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