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Just going to put here that while Assaltwaffle is retired, for what its worth, Assalt vehemently opposed Altair being upgraded to anything above Low 2-C. I made a thread a few months ago questioning if she should be higher and Assaltwaffle gave it a no.
Celestial Pegasus also agreed with Assalt...
No one here said any of this. A void doesnt suddenly not become infinite when arguing against people having infinite speed for moving in it.
The void at the end of the day is infinite, the characters are just not scaled to it.
Well when the shaking happened in Muken, Shunsui was entering it to speak with Aizen. That means the entrance between the Soul Society and the Muken was opened.
If an entrance into a seperate universe/dimension/realm, etc. is opened then the actvitiy of one can influence/effect the other.
It's obviously connected to the Soul Society via an entrance. That doesnt mean the Muken would be destroyed along with the Soul Society. We only see it shaking when Shunsui goes to see Aizen. Shunsui even says that "it's nearing the end for the Soul Society" but never says the Muken would end...
Thing is, the Muken is not apart of the Soul Society. It's specifically stated to be a realm that is completely seperated from the outside world, the soul society. It's pretty much the ROSAT of Bleach so to speak. Destroying the soul society doesnt automatically result in the Muken's destruction...
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People should also stop using the Dangai as an argument here when we dont even know how big it is. Being called a space-time is worthless without a quantifiable size, which is never given.
2 things.
First, isnt the Muken just a void? Why would creating the muken be given a tier when it wouldnt warrant anything? Creating an infinitely stretching void with no matter cant be given a tier.
Second, what evidence is there that says the SK would have even created the Muken? It's a...
Just asking out of curioisity because of how much of a haxxed power house the Soul King is. What hax or attack would the Soul King start out with using in-character for vs matchups? Besides the Almighty anyway.
Would it be Transmutation for what he did to that hollow in the novel? Or something...
If you want to call it "indirectly doing x", thats up to you. Doesnt change the fact that you're saying is still flawed.
You can't just remove the caveats of an energy source and keep the boons when making the energy source interact with another.
No, it's not. Like it was said before, it isnt that the opposing energy is getting a boost. The equalized energy isnt being granted anything. It's that the energy with the ability (Nen/Reiatsu) is getting a weakness, a very reasonable weakness at that.
Good lord what has this thread turned into....
Well IDK where this has gone to anymore, so imma just say that I agree with Cal's points that verse specific powers should be thrown out.
Whether the resistance should stay or not, being time dumped into differents point in time isnt space-time hax. Thats just temporal BFR.
So even if the resistance is to stay, it should be changed to resisting temporal bfr, not space-time hax.
The low end is only just a bit higher than Darkanies low end, so it still being 4-B is not a surprise.
From what I got, Necrozma can either be 4-A from the high end or a bit higher in 4-B from the low end. Im fine with whatever everyone chooses.
Forgot about this, sorry.
Like I said before, I know how to calculate Luminoisty based feats for lighting up the Universe with pure math, so im just gonna do a little math of my own for Necrozma here from scratch. Not trying to apply this to anything, but moreso just doing this out of curiosity...
Just wanted to know as this question came to me.
Can 2 planes of existences exist in...the same plane of existence? Or would one have to be a higher dimensional plane over the other?
And that happened before I countered and debunked it. And my argument was never even addressed in the previous thread, it got completely ignored.
So im sorry, but the staff consensus is irrelevant now that a counter argument has come and did not get refuted yet.
Thats simply because it was never applied. Like a lot of abilities from an on-going revisiom thread too that needs to be concluded.
Also, check the thread again. My debunk was literally the last thing mentioned about the Acasulity before the thread suddenly closed. And that was the 4th-5th time...
Already debunked this once or 2x already.
This was Primal Diapga who got time paradoxed, not normal Dialga. Not only is the former version an extremely weakened Dialga like Triforce said, this was a form of Dialga whos control over time was very unstable and crap compared to Dialgas normal...
Oh yeah speaking of this, these guys need to get their nigh omnipresence upgraded to omnipresence, at least for Palkia
In a past thread that died a while I gave evidence that Palkia isnt just omnipresent throughout space but also time as well.
Sorry. Took time to get them and had other crap to do. Anyway, here are the scans I talked about along with another damning piece of evidence.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Solar_Beam_(move)#In_the_manga
This first one is a link to Bulbapedias page on Solar Beam. I can't find the...
>No, it's not. Gathering sunlight and then converting it for a directed energy beam is absolutely no different in principle than the mechanical conversion into electricity, just in functionality.
Except it is different because in the context of this case, we are not talking about electrical...
Yeah and if Solar Beam wasnt literally an attack move, much less a beam move, but more a healing move in Pokemon, this would be more convincing.
But this is clearly not about Photosynthesis. Not to mention Pokemon already has a move where sunlight is involved and fits photosynethesis far better...
>Solar Beam gathers light as a power-source, then blasts an energy beam from the collected energy. It doesn't blast the foe with literal sunlight. Once again, the exact same logic would have us believe electricity generated from Solar Panels is capable of achieving lightspeed, or that oxygen...