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  1. Mageman460

    Kami-sama's Shenlong, Babidi and Mūri's Porunga

    Once again, if you want to downgrade King Piccolo, make a different CRT. Okay, was just confused on your phrasing there. Babidi has NO attack spells. If he used a spell to attack at all, then he might qualify for the 4-B. However he doesn't attack, so he doesn't get 4-B. Again, not arguing...
  2. Mageman460

    Kami-sama's Shenlong, Babidi and Mūri's Porunga

    King Piccolo is MOON Level, go check his page. If you want to downgrade him make a separate CRT. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/King_Piccolo I don't even know what you're trying to argue with exceeds vs matches ... Also I said exceeds. Babidi has no reason to have 4-B via attack spells...
  3. Mageman460

    Kami-sama's Shenlong, Babidi and Mūri's Porunga

    Okay, to start. Shenron never fights, but King Piccolo is 5-C so scaling to him would make Shenron 5-C. We also have no proof that Shenron has Ki Manipulation. Also, Shenron is not EQUAL to Kami. He just can not grant wishes that exceed Kami's power. For Babidi, as has been stated MULTIPLE...
  4. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    I mean ... Gawain tanks VS in Foxtail after being buffed by his master. I think it was nerfed though for some reason, can't remember.
  5. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    Artoria used Excalibur to instantly delete Gilles in Fate/Zero. She uses it again to delete Gil at the end of the Fate Route. Shirou uses Nine Lives to delete Berserker The only reason Medea survived Caladbolg is because EMIYA missed on purpose iirc. Geronimo's NP deleted Billy the Kid after...
  6. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    Also, why are Demon God Pillars considered above Fafnir? They weren't even in Orleans.
  7. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    Also yeah, Demon God Pillars are a bit weird. I remember seeing that come up before as well, but it was taken if it was true then it would be all 72 of them have to team up to do it iirc? But was treated as an outlier. There's also the fact that they are stated to take on teams of top tier...
  8. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    I don't think there's an issue of having the NP scale to living feats (outside of like Ea) because of how they work. But servants shouldn't scale to living feats as aren't servant bodies basically just containers? Which is why people like Shakespeare can still be vastly stronger than peak...
  9. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    I'm more referring to Gawain fighting Vortigern. But even still, the Vortigern fight was before Artoria was in Avalon. Artoria is still a servant though isn't she? Same as EMIYA also getting the servant treatment when summoned, Artoria is treated as a servant. Because if Artoria scales to...
  10. Mageman460

    Nasuverse: Noble Phantasm Revisions Continued

    There is an issue with scaling to living servant feats. Some servants are just flat out weaker as servants then when they were alive, such as Gil and Heracles. Scaling NPs should be fine though I think. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
  11. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    Ah okay, my bad.
  12. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    Why is Pre War Arc Kakashi Town Level? Shouldn't he be scaling to 30% Itachi clone? Or at least Base Naruto? Also his New Era key should be Large Mountain Level via scaling to other Kages and his War Arc self.
  13. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    That was with Amaterasu iirc. Which scales far higher than his normal AP last I checked.
  14. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    EMS Sasuke base should be At least Mountain level+ (Stronger than previous base), Large Mountain Level with Susanoo (Harmed Sage Mode Kabuto). Unless I'm missing something he shouldn't scale to KCM Naruto in base.
  15. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    I mean, if he's comparable to KCM Naruto, shouldn't he be Large Mountain Level? Also did he damage Kabuto? Because if so then he can scale to Kabuto who scales to Edo Itachi.
  16. Mageman460

    Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders

    EMS Sasuke is scaling to KCM Naruto despite being At Least Mountain+. Is this an error or just significant downscaling?
  17. Mageman460

    Captain Marvel scaling to Thanos

    Except it does cause damage by wearing it? We see Thanos in pain from wearing it. Thanos still got knocked back a lot from Hulk's sneak attack is what I was pointing to. Also Thanos had to regain himself before he beat Hulk down. That is fair that it is LS not AP. While Iron Man does use a...
  18. Mageman460

    Venom Profile Cleanup

    Yeah, looks like in the third key of the AP section it's listed as "Large Building Level" when it should be "Large Building Level+."
  19. Mageman460

    Venom Profile Cleanup

    Shouldn't the third key be Large Building Level+ in AP if it scales to the original Venom key, or am I misreading something?
  20. Mageman460

    An Upgrade to Goku :3

    Hard Disagree. Countless does not equal endless/infinite. How have the different places shown to be a different time stream at all? Everytime we see the Other World, it's in sync with the Living World. From Goku training with King Kai and having a year to train and beat the Saiyans to Goku...
  21. Mageman460

    Obito Uchiha (not Juubito) (and those who scale) Speed Downgrade

    Had to dig down the rabbit hole that is Naruto speed. Seriously that needs to be a CRT by itself. But all Sub Rel characters scale to Might Guy eventually. The only scaling chain that might make sense is scaling to V2 Jinchuriki who fought an unknown number of Gates Guy, but that would still...
  22. Mageman460

    Jujutsu Kaisen - Scale

    Itadori should be 8-C not 8-B in the tier section.
  23. Mageman460

    Captain Marvel scaling to Thanos

    Hit ctrl+enter by mistake wasn't done She lands a kick, punch, then two energy blasts which only stagger him. All of these were in quick succession. He then grabs her pauses and then spins around and throws her. Captain Marvel had her aura on the entire first fight until she was thrown for some...
  24. Mageman460

    Captain Marvel scaling to Thanos

    1) I was more using it as an example that it causes damage just by wearing it, not that Hulk is comparable to Thanos 2) Hulk's surprise attack really does as well against Thanos as Marvel does Captain Marvel's does. Once he regains himself he quickly dispatches both of them. If she really was...
  25. Mageman460

    Captain Marvel scaling to Thanos

    First of all, I do not appreciate this at all. (Not really sure how to separate quotes) 1) Not really ignoring context, I was saying what happened in that scene. She lands a few punches then gets tossed aside. 2) He still would have been injured by the gauntlet, as we see with Hulk earlier in...
  26. Mageman460

    My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

  27. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    Yeah, I think a High 7-A+ (Comparable to Awakened Thor), 6-C with Energy Absorption (Was overpowering Thanos until he used the Power Stone) would be the best option. This does require her to actually get Energy Absorption on her profile though.
  28. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    As far as I remember, the only person who says Captain Marvel could outright beat Thanos is Darcy in WandaVision (though if there are others, than feel free to let me know.) I'd hardly consider her a reputable source in terms of power scaling. I just noticed during my rewatch of the film last...
  29. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    Yes, I realize my mistake there, I was just about to edit the OP with that, but my second point still stands as a reason to at least get rid of the "At Least."
  30. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    Then that's my bad, I thought "At Least" meant that they might scale to a higher tier. However, she still shouldn't scale higher than Thanos, as I point out in my second part of my argument.
  31. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    Yes, however, Iron Man was directly blasted by Power Stone and only got "Higher" to his High 7-A. The Power Stone varies in power depending on the size of the target. She would need to be at least 10x stronger than Base Thanos to be Island Level+, unless I got something wrong?
  32. Mageman460

    MCU Captain Marvel Downgrade

    At Least Island Level At the moment, Captain Marvel is rated as "At Least Island Level." The issue with this is that she doesn't really scale to anything above Island Level. She scales directly to Thanos for grappling with him. Thanos either upscales from the Thor calc or downscales from the...
  33. Mageman460

    The Flash(CW) vs All Might

    I actually give it to Flash, Barry is used to dealing with people as strong or stronger than him. Not to mention at this point he can phase through shockwaves, throw lightning, generate tornados, on top of his regen. Oh and I thought this was tachyon Barry, post Tachyon Barry scales even...
  34. Mageman460

    Black Clover Discussion Thread Part 5: Golden Wind

    So I just reread the Dante fight ... does Guache's mirror magic count as light? If so is there a calc for him redirecting his light straight down? And what would it scale to?
  35. Mageman460

    The Flash(CW) vs All Might

    Tachyon Amped Barry brought Zoom to his knees. Zoom is listed as superior to Reverse Flash. Reverse Flash fodderized Firestorm who tanked a 1 megaton nuke at point blank range. So Barry scales above 1 megaton.
  36. Mageman460

    My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

    So this new chapter ... All For One seems to imply that all quirk users have a form of "mental immortality" I think Type 8 Immortality is close. It's not really combat applicable or anything, but it's an interesting thing to note. Typically the character's quirk dies when they do, but if...
  37. Mageman460

    Heracles fights himself

    Ah, my bad I thought Nine Lives was his weapon. This is Berserker Heracles though, the one from Fate/Stay Night, so he does have God Hand. I had Googled the Nemean Lion and saw that it was only immune to human made weapons according to a few sources.
  38. Mageman460

    Heracles fights himself

    Not 100% sure, but it looks like the Nemean Lion Pelt simply prevents him from being harmed by weapons made by mortals. So Nine Lives, Berserker's axe-sword, wouldn't work against him, but Berserker should be able to harm him with hand to hand as he is Divine. Why is this a stomp?
  39. Mageman460

    Heracles fights himself

    Hello, I've been browsing this wiki for a while and wanted to try a fight. I realized Heracles in myth was the same tier as Berserker in F/SN with the Nasuverse upgrades to 6C. So I wanted to try Berserker with a steady supply of mana versus the Mortal Hero Heracles from myth. Speed is...
    • Mageman460
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