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ByAsura

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  • I am currently preoccupied with a multitude of existing threads and real life issues. Unless I'm knowledgeable/interested enough about a verse (i.e Doctor Who, Evil Dead, Gunbuster, Godzilla, the CW, etc) to give genuine constructive criticism or approval, I probably won't give input. Also, I will make fun of you if you ask me to cover a Bleach or Naruto thread.
    Viott
    Hello, can you comment?

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    Kenganverse tier scaling

    Since the update of the calculations has been approved and accepted, it remains to determine the scaling of all character layers: Let's start with a simple one. Low 7-C key belongs to Inside Ohma. So its first key should be edited from "9-C to Low 7-C". Now let's move on to scaling the low...
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    Viott
    Hello, if you don't mind, could you check this CRT when you have time? Thanks in advance

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    Kenganverse | Ap Upgrade

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Kengan_ashura_:_Ohma_is_destroying_the_forest Thanks to this calculation, Ohma and characters as strong as ohma will rise from 8-A to Low 7-C.
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    ByArrow
    Hello! If you have time, can you check this out?
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    Sherlock BBC Verse Rework

    Dropping this Sherlock Series's rework I've been working on for quite a while. New tiering, P&A, Intelligence, Standard Equipment, Notable Attacks/Techniques, Weakness and Stamina changes from the original. Those in agreement: @Renitr, @DarkDragonMedeus, @McFriesGuy075, @Sir_Ovens...
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    ByArrow
    Hello! If you have time, can you check this out?
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    Arrowverse CRT: Hax Additions (Part 2)

    Lucifer Morningstar Empathic Manipulation: Lucifer reflects back people's greatest desires and this makes them have an irrepressible, irresistible desire for Lucifer. This weakness of Lucifer should be removed. Chloe Decker is not affected by his powers and can hurt him or even kill him due...
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    Wankbreaker
    could you check this out please, end my suffering

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    The Disappearance of Void Shiki's Root Scaling

    i can already predict whats going to happen if i do NOT make this a staff thread, so ill go on ahead and do it. Alright, we’ve been told by @Ultima_Reality off site that this topic doesn’t intersect with the root thread, so it should be fine for these specific topics to be going on at the same...
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    doesnt require knowledge of higher tiers, just reasoning out whether she scales to the thing that gives her this tier id argue that you dont really need knowledge of the verse, either.
    ByArrow
    Hello! If you have time, can you look check this out?
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    Supergirl (CW) Dura upscale

    I've already made the calculation and posted it on the Calc thread but I just wanted opinions, does it seem fair? (This has been debated 6 years ago but we never really got closure) linklinklink
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    REX9097
    Hi, can I get a vote here (please answer my request 🌹)
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    Ben 10 Cosmology: High 1-B upgrade

    Introduction This thread mainly focuses on upgrading the Ben 10 cosmology to High 1-B, as a result, upgrading few characters and weapons. Premise In order to prove the Ben 10 cosmology being High 1-B, I would introduce a new Universe inside the Space Beyond that is stated to be infinite...
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    REX9097
    Hi, can I get a vote here (please answer my request 🌹)
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    Ben 10: AP revision for the top tiers

    Introduction Continuing from previously accepted thread, this one will focus on re-scaling the top tier characters/weapons of Ben 10 as per the newly revised cosmology. AP Scaling: 1. Annihilarrgh and Feedback The Annihilarrgh creates universes inside white voids. The white void is accepted to...
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    Renitr
    Hi. If you have time, can you check this wall level+ verse upgrade
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    Underworld Revisions Part 1

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Underworld https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Jason_Courne/Underworld_feats#Michael_gets_shoved_through_pillars All calcs accepted Underwolrd: Endless War is canon anime adaptation of Underwolrd (...
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    ByAsura
    I was planning on rewatching the movies anyway, so sure.

    I'll probably be a few days, though.
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    Demon_Lord18
    I forgot about Demon Tristan.

    It surpasses enchanter initially, and is more like >5x enchanter (206 teratons) during his second, more berserk transformation.
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    I know you're no longer involved with NNT, but could you explain the logic behind it?

    Edit: Another thing I wanted to ask, Demon Mark Meliodas in 4KoA is Small Planet, right? Since Demon Tristan in this new scale would be 94.5 Exatons (Using the old scaler as a base)

    Meliodas' scale in 4KoA would look like this, right?

    Base Meliodas 189 Exatons

    Demon Mark Meliodas 756 Exatons
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    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I can remember the logic behind it now.

    Percival equalled base Tristan (they knocked each other out), and then surpassed him with another amp, yet still got stomped by the Melascula Galand fusion and could only inflict moderate damage with a Destroyer amp (a nearly 10-fold amp).

    Berserk Demon Mark Tristan, on the other hand, ripped apart the fusion with utter ease, placing him well above Destroyer-amped Pervical. IIRC, it's explicitly stated in the commentaries on the side of the untranslated panel that this version of Tristan was more powerful than his previous controlled Demon transformation.

    Base Meliodas is 2x Berserk Demon Tristan via scaling above Arthur's FC'd attack, and 2nd Mark Meliodas is 4x stronger than his base (aka, 8x Tristan).
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Honestly, I'm not sure how all of this factors into anything if the scaling comes from Behemoth, who's close to 50% Demon King level.

    We kept the scaling in the last thread for downscaling purposes and nothing more.
    Demon_Lord18
    Demon_Lord18
    We kept the scaling in the last thread for downscaling purposes and nothing more.
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    The downscaling still happens, Tristan would be 94.5 Exatons with the downscaling, this would up Meliodas by 4KoA

    Meliodas 4KoA was placed above PDK, this would continue to happen, there would be no reason not to do this on the current scale

    The reasoning would be the same as with the old scale:

    Demon Tristan 206 Teratons (Currently 94.5 Exatons)

    Base Meliodas 412 Teratons (Currently 189 Exatons)

    PDK 824 Teratons (Currently 378 Exatons)

    Demon Meliodas 1,648 Petatons (Currently 756 Exatons)
    LazyMortician
    Hi!
    If you have time, can you look at this thread?
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    DC/Vertigo Cosmology Redo(Part 1 of 2)

    Hi, since the the tiering system has been changed not too long ago. I decided to overlook the DC Cosmology blog page and wanted to revise the tiering and explanation on the blog. @Elizio33 is handling the Crisis Cosmology section of the blog. So I decided to handle J.M. DeMatteis and Vertigo...
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    ByArrow
    Hello! If you have time, can you check this out?
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    Arrowverse CRT: Anti-Monitor Revisions

    Here is the updated version of the Anti-Monitor's profile https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:ByArrow/sandboxmonit%C3%B6r Old version https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Anti-Monitor_(CW)?so=search Things that have changed and been added; The profile was divided into two keys, pre-crisis and...
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    Wankbreaker
    can i get permission to comment on the tier 0 root thread? me and about 7 others have discussed counter arguments that I don’t think deagon has went over yet, and some counter debunks.
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    Wankbreaker
    i guess that’s understandable,but neither deagon or ultima from what I see are particularly active on their walls.

    would it increase confidence if I pmed you what I intend to comment, and you approve or deny afterwards?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Sure.
    Wankbreaker
    Wankbreaker
    sorry, i was busy with irl stuff mostly, but I’ve finished what I wanted to say.

    i won’t respond to deagons points, i think he can handle those on his own. but im not sure where the other points came from, but they’re in the OP, so its fair game.



    No, the night of wallachia is not inside of the world. this is literally one of the first information dumps we get about it.





    “Yes. Tatari—No, ‘The Night of Wallachia’ does not have a lair. In the first place, it is something that does not even exist in this world.”
    this is enough.





    as for the throne of heroes,this would be very simple to prove.



    “The Throne of Heroic Spirits that's said to be a hall of records within the void? Unfortunately, it's nothing so noble and innocent as that.”



    touko also says that the first thing that would come out of a hole to the root if Araya opened one would be a CG. the context implies not a CG being summoned in response, but a CG existing on the other side and coming out of the hole.



    But, how? Even if you don't set out a magical ward to testify that you aren't a mage, you can't fool the will of the dominant race. The only ones you can fool by using a technological ward are other mages. If you use this building a path will definitely open. Since its the realization of the Taeguekdo, a hole would certainly appear. **But the first thing to come out of that hole will be a Counter Guardian. **As long as we are who we are, there is no way we can stand up to that."



    this also doesn’t discount anything, as arcueid says in MBAA that the “will of emptiness/the heavens”, and the will of the planet, have their own laws and will seperate.





    Angra’s existence as a pseudo grail, the Inverted Moon of the Heavens, creates some sort of area where the root is on one end, and the normal world on the other.







    both he and bazett physically run in opposite directions.



    also, you only need 6 servants to grant your wish, but the 7th servant is what you need to reach the root.



    the root does indeed contain some form of magical energy.



    神代の文明は循環、現代の文明は消費。

    神代は真理と共にあり、現代は真理を識ろうとする。

    循環の理で世界が回っていた神代において、魔術師は根源に到達する必要がない。

    だって根源から魔力を得ているようなものだから。

    同時に、あまりに身近に感じられるため、根源にいたろうという考え自体思いつかない。



    Ancient civilizations were about cycles, modern civilizations are about consumption. The ancient era existed with truth, while the modern era seeks to understand truth. In the ancient world, where the principle of cycles governed everything, magicians didn't need to reach the Root (the origin of all things). After all, it was as if they were already obtaining magical energy from the Root. At the same time, because it felt so close, the idea of reaching the Root didn't even occur to them.



    the “truth” in question is the root, and the energy obtained from it is “true ether”. explains why it vanishes from the surface after the AOG,as mages don’t exist along side “truth”.

    ether in nasu sometimes uses the kanji “空”.

    meaning true ether would be “真空” (true emptiness). meaning by manipulating and using true ether, you are essentially using true emptiness as energy.



    i won’t comment on the other points, I’ve just decided to focus on the ones i find most promising and relevant here.

    but as an additional comment. the taiji uses the same microcosm kanji shiki uses in that paragraph.



    also for araya:

    「無論だ。だがおまえが知りえない真実もある。

    　確かに、私は死の数ばかりを追っていた。何万という異なる人間の異なる死を経験すれば、その中に根源に通 じる魂の拡散があると信じていた。だが、それでは大元には到達できない。それで辿着けるのはその人間の『起 源』だけだ。霊長という総体の起源には辿り着けない。

    　重要なのは死の量ではない。死の質だ。元を辿れば死に方の種類はより大きく区別される。私は死途を可能な まで大きく腑分けし、結果それが六十四種であると迫った。ここに集まった者達は一人一人がその種の死に方を 背負った者。いうなれば世界の縮図だ。私は彼らの苦しみを体験し、彼らの苦しみを内包する。いずれ八卦より四象へと単純化させ、両儀へと至るため に」



    Note that he says iu nareba ['so to speak', 'you might call it', 'one way to describe it'] which suggests that he thinks 世界の縮図 is a loose description, or at best just one way to look at it.

    this particular phrasing is not present in ryougis case.



    i actually have new antifeats to bring up, but that’s going to clutter the thread, so i would rather have these resolved before making the next move
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    ByArrow
    Do you know anything about the cyclic multiverse? I've seen people say that the cyclic multiverse is a Low 1-C structure, is that true? And if true, does the Arrowverse fit that?
    In The Flash: The Legends of Forever, it is said that the multiverse is cyclical, that time is cyclical not linear.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I have no clue about that, sorry.
    ByArrow
    Hello! Have you read the Arrowverse companion books?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    If you're referring to the Amulet ones and the tie-in novels, then yes.

    I have a few feats for them on the planned profiles.
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    ByArrow
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I read both of the Secret Files books (not much in them, btw), but never managed to find a copy of Cisco Ramon's Journal.
    Ar1216789
    Your input.

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    Cookie Run: Addressing the Realm of Apathy

    Mystic Flour Cookie and Realm of Apathy The Realm of Apathy is Mystic Flour Cookies realm which is a world of nothingness, a world where every Cookie is liberated from burden. The Realm of Apathy corresponds to Buddhism, at times, almost exactly. Setting herself free from the cycle, it can be...
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    ByArrow
    Hello! You said you had evidence that the Arrowverse multiverse is low 1-C. Are you going to open a thread on this? If you are not going to open it or you are busy, you can give me this evidences and I can open the thread.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    That was exclusively referring to the Speed Force, which is already High 1-C.
    ByArrow
    Hey, can you take a look at this?
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    Flash High 1-C upgrade

    Yeah, so basically, since the speed force got upgraded to High 1-C, here, flash should also scale since he merged with all forces, including the speed force and got access to their full powers. So he should have at High 1-C AP, durability, idk about striking strength since its unknown on the...
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    Ar1216789
    Hey, can you take a look at this Low 1-C CRT. We need one more staff vote. You can find a summary in the bottom of Page 4.

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    Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

    Scans for the TBD being unreachable can be found here. 2nd image mostly just implies that Baguette Cookie doesn't have the authority or proper clearance to see the records of Moonlight's dreams despite wanting to, implying they do have data of Moonlight Cookie and the WoD somewhere but she just...
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    Lloydblitzed
    Can I get your input here?
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    Lego Monkie Kid Upgrades

    This thread will basically upscale some characters of the verse as well as adding some abilities some characters. 1. MK Upgrade So hum MK's profile wasn't update since Season 2 of LMK and he has feats that would scale him to Sun Wukong and Azure Lion Here's a reworked version of his profile...
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    Jeeeeepil123
    Input please?🙏
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    Shadow Fight 2 Underworld: Ability Addition

    I think i already can make a new brand thread for ability addition here, seeing the previous thread Revision has already been applied. For starter, we have to know that there is a canonical lore between Underworld and Shadow Fight Main-Continuity (technically). As mentioned in the newest events...
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    Arceus0x
    I might as well ask since I need anyone's vote, feel free to ignore this.
    Could you please check this thread out? We need quite a bit of staff input before we actually apply this since it was a big change in the past and now we're reverting it.
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    Pokémon: Nearly Everything is Canon

    and yet it says the complete opposite of what you're suggesting. Mewtwo's Pokedex entries say again and again how Humans created it using mew's DNA as a basis, Human made it, not Mew in fact, the Scan from origins also comfirms this, as the scientists didn't even had Mew in anyway when...
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    Gasper
    Can you give your opinion on this please?
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    Should We Make Profiles For The Divine Comedy?

    This is not a tiering-related thread, and the title is self-explanatory, really. As you can see: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy We already kind of index the Divine Comedy on-site, even if poorly. That said, from what I can gather, this has pretty much gone under the radar...
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    Viott
    Hi, could you evaluate this if you have some time please ?

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    Lookism ap uprade

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Lookism_:_Johan_is_opening_a_big_crater Thanks to this calculation, johan, johan-level characters and characters stronger than johan will move up from 9-A to 9-A+.
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    Phsccarvalho
    Hi, could you check this crt?
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    Castlevania - Everyone wants a piece of Chaos

    Hello. Well, I think that's simple. From this accepted Blog of @Theglassman12, chaos and darkness are the same thing, synonymous. Chaos power refers to the power of darkness and vice versa. Chaos and Darkness So this one is mostly to address some confusion when reading the profiles. In...
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