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Murder Drones: The 5-A Downgrade

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Yes, yes.... you may have heard the countless, and COUNTLESS of MD's debates that the Drones are NOT Interplanetary level because of the Anti-Feats that are shown in the series (Mainly because I was one of them too before Episode 8 came out, and I'm grown to it at this point), however... this, is different.
Durability: Large Planet level physically (Should be as durable as other Worker Drones such as Nori and Yeva, who survived an explosion that generated this much energy[2][8].
Unlike the rest of "anti-feats" which were more focused on the Drone's durability itself... The main source of the Verse's current power level is the Copper 9's explosion was thought to be on a "Large Planet" level... however, looking back at the calculation on the other hand... it wasn't the explosion that was Large Planet level, the explosion is instead calculated around Continent level. And you may be asking yourself "Why"?

...No, it was because of the Kinetic Energy of a damn "crater," which was presumably created by this explosion as a result by the user of this calculation, but there is ONE GLARING ISSUE complicates this assumption...
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...where is it exactly? Where's my 6391000m deep and 6021535.86498 wide crater at?! /s (Should I remind you, the Cabin Fever Labs is what the explosion first started from)
The reason for this is because there were no crater, the crater is basically non-existent and it was assumes there was one which uh... at this point, kinda outdated as if the recent episodes (Hell, Cabin Fever disproves this assumption from the start.)
The nearby area around the "explosion" is... fine, no damage, no debris scattered over the ground, just your old... average wasteland, no signs of life as usual. Hell, the Church where the crater/explosion first "started" from is still fine! Not even obliterated, it's still... standing, as if anyone just left and went onto their day with no concerns.
It didn't seemed to inflicted that much damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7 which is basically... the same thing, expect it actually affected the area and destroyed it as a whole unlike the one we saw that Nori and Yeva took, the Church being the biggest example of tha

And even if there was a crater that the explosion presumably created, it wouldn't make sense in a story context because half of the damn plot wouldn't even exist at that point!

Conclusion​

  • In summary of this; The main reason of why the MD Verse is 5-A is because of an assumption that is no longer reliable as of the current episodes.
So! Because of this, will the Verse get downgraded to Country level/Continent level as a result?

...n-no, because they should still physically scaled to Uzi who survived this, thus bringing the verse down to Planet level+. Still Planetary range, just a little... lower, to say at least.

Short and simple thread, but eh. I just hope this thread is enough and gets accepted at least...
Agree (1 Staff Vote): @Oliver_de_jesus, @DarkMatterEnergy254, @LemonedEyes, @TheRustyOne, @Planck69
Neutral:
Disagree:
 
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Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?
 
Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?
The [NULL]'s explosion is only 6-A at best, and even then, I doubt it's that strong considering it didn't seemed to cause that much of a damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7 which is like... the same thing, expect it actually affected the area and destroyed it as whole unlike the one that Nori and Yeva took, the Church being the biggest example of that. Plus the explosion only affecting biological life kinda... complicated this a bit.
(The explosion used 134 PSI despite none of the area around it not even being remotely destroyed on-screen, and should used a lower PSI value because of that)
Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?
I mean
Yeah, I'm still cool with it
Nothing's really wrong with it ig
 
The [NULL]'s explosion is only 6-A at best, and even then, I doubt it's that strong considering it didn't seemed to cause that much of a damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7.
I feel like because [NULL]s are manually controlled by the user, which probably explains the different ranges of AP for them.

Also I guess 5-B+ wouldn't be the worst downgrade in the world. I guess I'm fine with a 5-B+ rating unless someone else has a better argument for 5-A to be kept.
 
Yeah, I found the 5-A calc to be bunk as well. The "explosion" was super weird and clearly didn't inflict the level of damage we got. So I'm fine with the downgrade.

However, I have a slight problem with the 5-B calculation. The issue is assuming the time the screen was black till we hear the first noise to equal the timeframe. This is baseless, Uzi was clearly knocked out and I see no reason to assume there wasn't some time jump during that darkness.

Note: I understand why the calc was done like that, since episode 8 wasn't out yet so I imagine it was the only choice.

But we now have a better timeframe of the feat from the teacher being launched.

While it's possible for their launch times to be different, I feel this is still better than assuming a timeframe.

1653 - 1372 = 281 frames and the video runs at 30 fps.

281/30 = 9.36666667 seconds

4603660.66627/9.36666667 = 491494.021135 m/s

0.5*2.7694729e22*491494.021135^2 = 3.3450576e+33 Joules or 799.48 Zettatons of TNT (Planet level)

@CloverDragon03 @Dalesean027 and @Psychomaster35

Calling them since the two of them evaluated it and Psychomaster35 made the original calculation.

What do you think of using the above timeframe instead?
 
Yeah, I found the 5-A calc to be bunk as well. The "explosion" was super weird and clearly didn't inflict the level of damage we got. So I'm fine with the downgrade.

However, I have a slight problem with the 5-B calculation. The issue is assuming the time the screen was black till we hear the first noise to equal the timeframe. This is baseless, Uzi was clearly knocked out and I see no reason to assume there wasn't some time jump during that darkness.

Note: I understand why the calc was done like that, since episode 8 wasn't out yet so I imagine it was the only choice.

But we now have a better timeframe of the feat from the teacher being launched.

While it's possible for their launch times to be different, I feel this is still better than assuming a timeframe.

1653 - 1372 = 281 frames and the video runs at 30 fps.

281/30 = 9.36666667 seconds

4603660.66627/9.36666667 = 491494.021135 m/s

0.5*2.7694729e22*491494.021135^2 = 3.3450576e+33 Joules or 799.48 Zettatons of TNT (Planet level)

@CloverDragon03 @Dalesean027 and @Psychomaster35

Calling them since the two of them evaluated it and Psychomaster35 made the original calculation.

What do you think of using the above timeframe instead?
I guess this is fine
 
Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?
I Don't really agree with that, but in the best case is only Black Hole Creation
 
Disagree with this as well. 5-A calc seems pretty solid.
The 5-A calc is because of KE from a "crater" that was assumed, not because of the explosion (It being 6-A at best), but because of the crater/assumption not actually happening or even existing in the first place, it's no longer reliable.
 
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