Murder Drones: The 5-A Downgrade {ACCEPTED}

[Flowerguy2]

OKAY JUST HEAR ME OUT-

Yes, yes.... you may have heard the countless, and COUNTLESS of MD's debates that the Drones are NOT Interplanetary level because of the Anti-Feats that are shown in the series (Mainly because I was one of them too before Episode 8 came out, and I'm grown to it at this point), however... this, is different.

Durability: Large Planet level physically (Should be as durable as other Worker Drones such as Nori and Yeva, who survived an explosion that generated this much energy[2][8].

Unlike the rest of "anti-feats" which were more focused on the Drone's durability itself... The main source of the Verse's current power level is the Copper 9's explosion was thought to be on a "Large Planet" level... however, looking back at the calculation on the other hand... it wasn't the explosion that was Large Planet level, the explosion is instead calculated around Continent level. And you may be asking yourself "Why"?

...No, it was because of the Kinetic Energy of a crater presumably created by this explosion as a result by the user of this calculation, but there is ONE GLARING ISSUE complicates this assumption...

...where is it exactly? Should I remind you, the Cabin Fever Labs is what the explosion first started from
The reason for this is because there were no crater, the crater is basically non-existent at the time of the show and it is assumes there was one which uh... at this point, now outdated as if the recent episodes (Cabin Fever disproving this assumption from the start.)

The surroundings around the "explosion" are... fine, no damage, no debris scattered over the ground, just an wasteland with no signs of life as usual. Even the Church, epicenter of said crater/explosion, is perfectly intact. Not even obliterated, it's still... standing.

It didn't seemed to inflicted that much damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7 which is basically... the same thing, expect it actually affected the area and destroyed it as a whole than one the one we first saw that Nori and Yeva took, with the Church being the biggest example of that.

Conclusion​

• In summary of this; The main reason of why the MD Verse is 5-A is because of an assumption that is no longer reliable as of the current episodes.

So! Because of this, will the Verse get downgraded to Country level/Continent level as a result?

...no, because they should still physically scaled to Uzi who survived this, thus bringing the verse down to Planet level+. Still Planetary range, just a little... lower, to say at least.

Short and simple thread, but eh. I just hope this thread is enough and gets accepted at least...
Agree (2 Staff Vote): @Oliver_de_jesus, @DarkMatterEnergy254, @LemonedEyes, @TheRustyOne, @Planck69, @AbaddonTheDisappointment
Neutral:
Disagree:

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Ig this is fine, now we can have MD vs DB
(J when She see Vegeta

)

 

[Spinoirr]

Ig this is fine, now we can have MD vs DB
(J when She see Vegeta

)

The battle of jobbers lets go

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The battle of jobbers lets go

Sadly J couldn't beat V, Vegeta has more letters with V + more screentime + Wins + Actually beat the protagonist in his first introduction in 1v1, so he get the W

 

[Chianli]

Ig this is fine, now we can have MD vs DB
(J when She see Vegeta

)

THAT IS NOT THE REAL SPANISH MUSCLE MAN BRO

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Bump and agree

 

[LemonedEyes]

Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?

 

[LemonedEyes]

Sadly J couldn't beat V, Vegeta has more letters with V + more screentime + Wins + Actually beat the protagonist in his first introduction in 1v1, so he get the W

Also V is the hottest drone

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

Is not that, is becauase the Explosion not match the "Crater" that make it 5-A

 

[Flowerguy2]

Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

The [NULL]'s explosion is only 6-A at best, and even then, I doubt it's that strong considering it didn't seemed to cause that much of a damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7 which is like... the same thing, expect it actually affected the area and destroyed it as whole unlike the one that Nori and Yeva took, the Church being the biggest example of that. Plus the explosion only affecting biological life kinda... complicated this a bit.
(The explosion used 134 PSI despite none of the area around it not even being remotely destroyed on-screen, and should used a lower PSI value because of that)

Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?

I mean
Yeah, I'm still cool with it
Nothing's really wrong with it ig

 

[LemonedEyes]

I guess 5-B+ wouldn't be the worst downgrade in the world then unless someone else can argue 5-A.

 

[LemonedEyes]

The [NULL]'s explosion is only 6-A at best, and even then, I doubt it's that strong considering it didn't seemed to cause that much of a damage than compared to the one we saw in Episode 7.

I feel like because [NULL]s are manually controlled by the user, which probably explains the different ranges of AP for them.

Also I guess 5-B+ wouldn't be the worst downgrade in the world. I guess I'm fine with a 5-B+ rating unless someone else has a better argument for 5-A to be kept.

 

[Flowerguy2]

unless someone else has a better argument for 5-A to be kept.

I mean
The whole 5-A thing is because of a crater
And that crater doesn't really exist in the first place from what we're shown so
idk what they're arguing for

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[TheRustyOne]

Yeah, I found the 5-A calc to be bunk as well. The "explosion" was super weird and clearly didn't inflict the level of damage we got. So I'm fine with the downgrade.

However, I have a slight problem with the 5-B calculation. The issue is assuming the time the screen was black till we hear the first noise to equal the timeframe. This is baseless, Uzi was clearly knocked out and I see no reason to assume there wasn't some time jump during that darkness.

Note: I understand why the calc was done like that, since episode 8 wasn't out yet so I imagine it was the only choice.

But we now have a better timeframe of the feat from the teacher being launched.

While it's possible for their launch times to be different, I feel this is still better than assuming a timeframe.

1653 - 1372 = 281 frames and the video runs at 30 fps.

281/30 = 9.36666667 seconds

4603660.66627/9.36666667 = 491494.021135 m/s

0.5*2.7694729e22*491494.021135^2 = 3.3450576e+33 Joules or 799.48 Zettatons of TNT (Planet level)

@CloverDragon03 @Dalesean027 and @Psychomaster35

Calling them since the two of them evaluated it and Psychomaster35 made the original calculation.

What do you think of using the above timeframe instead?

 

[Dalesean027]

Im fine with this fix

 

[Psychomaster35]

Yeah, I found the 5-A calc to be bunk as well. The "explosion" was super weird and clearly didn't inflict the level of damage we got. So I'm fine with the downgrade.

However, I have a slight problem with the 5-B calculation. The issue is assuming the time the screen was black till we hear the first noise to equal the timeframe. This is baseless, Uzi was clearly knocked out and I see no reason to assume there wasn't some time jump during that darkness.

Note: I understand why the calc was done like that, since episode 8 wasn't out yet so I imagine it was the only choice.

But we now have a better timeframe of the feat from the teacher being launched.

While it's possible for their launch times to be different, I feel this is still better than assuming a timeframe.

1653 - 1372 = 281 frames and the video runs at 30 fps.

281/30 = 9.36666667 seconds

4603660.66627/9.36666667 = 491494.021135 m/s

0.5*2.7694729e22*491494.021135^2 = 3.3450576e+33 Joules or 799.48 Zettatons of TNT (Planet level)

@CloverDragon03 @Dalesean027 and @Psychomaster35

Calling them since the two of them evaluated it and Psychomaster35 made the original calculation.

What do you think of using the above timeframe instead?

I guess this is fine

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Woah there. A [NULL] was the cause of the explosion, and we've seen characters like Cyn crush them. So can the 5-A stuff be applied but only certain characters?

Also you still agree with the High 4-C stuff I assume right?

I Don't really agree with that, but in the best case is only Black Hole Creation

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Infinitinet]

Disagree with this as well. 5-A calc seems pretty solid.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Disagree with this as well. 5-A calc seems pretty solid.

The 5-A calc is because of KE from a "crater" that was assumed, not because of the explosion (It being 6-A at best), but because of the crater/assumption not actually happening or even existing in the first place, it's no longer reliable.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

So the characters will be 5-B right?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

So the characters will be 5-B right?

Yeah

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

I see, what about speed rates? There is a MFTL speed calc in the page of the verse but I guess is not accepted

 

[Flowerguy2]

I see, what about speed rates?

This CRT only focuses on the AP and not speed

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

This CRT only focuses on the AP and not speed

Ok, I should make another one

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

bumppers

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump

 

[Planck69]

The changes seem fine.

 

[Flowerguy2]

The changes seem fine.

Counted

 

[Flowerguy2]

Bump