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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Yeah that translation is a bit weird. Because Sukuna has no way of shifting it to Megumi. You can't control sure hit effects like that. It is completely impossible.

I'll give you two interpretations.

the first one is that it assumes that. Sukuna and Gojo's domain sure hit targeted everything else. But unlike Gojo, Sukuna did not have this overlap his area.

So, the sure hit from Gojo's UV being sent towards Sukuna, were not cancelled
And so it basically hit Sukuna
Basically, While it hit Sukuna, Sukuna made it so that it rather hit Megumi instead of him. This is the first interpretation.

However there's a second interpretation. That is, the sure hit (from malevolent shrine) that didn't hit around Sukuna wasn't canceled towards Sukuna himself, but rather Megumi. So any sure hit effect intending to directly affect Sukuna instead, got cancelled. but Megumi wasn't protected.
The first interpretation assumes that Sukuna can transfer the UV intending to hit him, to Megumi.
The second interpretation assumes that Sukuna's MS sure hit weren't cancelld towards himself but Megumi instead, so Megumi got hit by it.
I think the second interpretation is more fair and sensible. The first interpretation assumes that Sukuna can somehow manipulate UV.
The second interpretation doesn't assume that, but rather assumes Sukuna shielded himself with his own MS sure hit effect but didn't extend that shield to Megumi

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Shishiso TL:
"...And Sukuna's commands targeting everything inside the domain except himself" (The "himself" can be interpreted to be referring to Megumi. Which is why in this paragraph it says:)
"So no Sure-Hit Commands towards HIM (notice how it is bolded?) were canceled"
This supports my interpretation.
We know that there is some sort of distinction between vessels, etc, the body that these characters have. Like how culling games themselves work like. Instead of saying Kenjaku they say Geto, and do the same for the others.
Lightning did a break down of this on Twitter where they said the "him" in question is relating to Sukuna, I can try find it later, and when I say he used Megumi's soul a shield I'm not saying Sukuna manipulated Gojo's sure-hit I'm saying that he's redirecting the damage of it onto Megumi (essentially your first interpretation).
 
The muscles size point is a bit weird, and I don't think it works like that

Todo is 3 times bigger than Miguel and Gojo still makes an exception for Miguel in comparison to Japan sorcerers.

In fact Todo says Yuji is stronger than him in raw power when we know for sure that todo has more muscle mass

If Sukuna's physical power in his true form makes such a significant power up, it would've been stated with the advantages of his body

So far, the most notable advantage for his body is how he can amp his CTs with hand signs and incantations
 
Todo’s reinforcement < Miguel’s.
Reinforcements are irrelevant here
We're talking about physical strength, what makes Miguel strong physically is that his natural.physical strength is strong, and he can amp it with CE

Gojo makes an exception to Miguel's natural strength when compared to Japanese sorcerers when we know that Todo's muscles are bigger than Miguel's



Also his innate physical strength < Miguel’s
This invalidates your point then about Sukuna becoming stronger with bigger muscles because Todo is bigger than both Yuji and Miguel but they are physically stronger
 
Megukuna was also on like 5 HP and wasn't actually fighting back
Nice headcanon.
True form Sukuna was suffering from same things Meguna undergone there is nothing states he got extra HP after Resurrection.
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Meguna already healed his wounds except left eye and hand. He also had more CE than the time he fought Yuta.
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True form Sukuna got his eyes and hand back shouldn't be able to Blitz and tank the attack if it didn't amped his physical conditions.
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Nice headcanon.
True form Sukuna was suffering from same things Meguna undergone there is nothing states he got extra HP after Resurrection.
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Meguna already healed his wounds except left eye and hand. He also had more CE than the time he fought Yuta.
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True form Sukuna got his eyes and hand back shouldn't be able to Blitz and tank the attack if it didn't amped his physical conditions.
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...What?
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Nice headcanon.
True form Sukuna was suffering from same things Meguna undergone there is nothing states he got extra HP after Resurrection.
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Meguna already healed his wounds except left eye and hand. He also had more CE than the time he fought Yuta.
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True form Sukuna got his eyes and hand back shouldn't be able to Blitz and tank the attack if it didn't amped his physical conditions.
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Sukuna's body after the HP was destroyed and he was barely standing there
He had high CE but his body was ****** up and he couldn't heal because his RCT was off
He skipped RCT and fixed his body, which is an amp
 
I don't see how it isn't inconsequential given Sukuna's attitude
dude we are talking about sukuna here... mr let me take the cursed object erasing CT to face while being jumped sukuna, the "3F would be enough to kill you mahoraga" sukuna, literally everything is inconsequential to him, he simply does not give a shit on 90% of all situations.
 
Sukuna's body after the HP was destroyed and he was barely standing there
That was before he healed that.
He had high CE but his body was ****** up and he couldn't heal because his RCT was off
Bro we clearly see only thing he couldn't heal was hand and his left eye. I mean he could have given time if Kashimo didn't rushed into there.
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He skipped RCT and fixed his body, which is an amp
How fixing an arm and eye is an amp for speed & durability?
 
The muscles size point is a bit weird, and I don't think it works like that

Todo is 3 times bigger than Miguel and Gojo still makes an exception for Miguel in comparison to Japan sorcerers.

In fact Todo says Yuji is stronger than him in raw power when we know for sure that todo has more muscle mass

If Sukuna's physical power in his true form makes such a significant power up, it would've been stated with the advantages of his body

So far, the most notable advantage for his body is how he can amp his CTs with hand signs and incantations
Yuji is a special case tho. Your base stats definitely matter
 
It would make up for one finger's worth of power
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If soul level matters for power, then it has been replaced, if it doesnt, then theres no point in doing so because he isnt gonna fight Idle transfiguration
That was before he healed that.

Bro we clearly see only thing he couldn't heal was hand and his left eye. I mean he could have given time if Kashimo didn't rushed into there.
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How fixing an arm and eye is an amp for speed & durability?
Did he really heal? I dont remember smoke coming from him honestly
 
Yuji is a special case tho. Your base stats definitely matter
It matters in special cases like Miguel, how can you prove the same for Sukuna?
I think if it had that significant impact it wouldve been stated, what has been stated is that his extra arms and mouth give him an immense advantage
It's Gege who is drawing this. Author of week-to-week, high-demand manga Jujutsu Kaisen. It can be easily chalked up to him not wanting to draw so many lines
Can you provide other examples where Gege didnt draw the smoke while someone was using RCT?
 
Can you provide other examples where Gege didnt draw the smoke while someone was using RCT?
I meant that he probably didn't wanna draw so many lines that he didn't necessarily need to

And regardless, Sukuna's RCT output hadn't at all recovered at this point. He was still in a state far from physically vital
 
Lightning did a break down of this on Twitter where they said the "him" in question is relating to Sukuna,
No, the sure hit effects did indeed hit him, but not Sukuna himself but rather Megumi. He literally cannot redirect UV, or use Megumi as a shield here. That's just not how it works as his brain is exposed and so is his own soul.
 
No, the sure hit effects did indeed hit him, but not Sukuna himself but rather Megumi. He literally cannot redirect UV, or use Megumi as a shield here. That's just not how it works as his brain is exposed and so is his own soul.
yea it hit Megumi, but if Megumi wasn't there it would hit Sukuna's soul instead and Sukuna has no way to block it with his own DE essentially.
 
I meant that he probably didn't wanna draw so many lines that he didn't necessarily need to

And regardless, Sukuna's RCT output hadn't at all recovered at this point. He was still in a state far from physically vital
After Yuta’s fight, his output was even worse because of Yuji, but we saw smoke coming off, however there wasnt any smoke coming off of his hand there
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I might be wrong on this but I cant see how he was healing
How is Miguel a special case? He is just a buff dude with good ce reinforcement
He has different bone structure
 
yea it hit Megumi, but if Megumi wasn't there it would hit Sukuna's soul instead and Sukuna has no way to block it with his own DE essentially.
Sukuna’s soul was there, Gojo’s sure hit covered everything inside the domain, if Sukuna wasnt protecting his soul why didnt UV hit it?
 
After Yuta’s fight, his output was even worse because of Yuji, but we saw smoke coming off, however there wasnt any smoke coming off of his hand there
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I might be wrong on this but I cant see how he was healing
He was talking about JL roasting him and next panel his body already healed that.
 
After Yuta’s fight, his output was even worse because of Yuji, but we saw smoke coming off, however there wasnt any smoke coming off of his hand there
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I might be wrong on this but I cant see how he was healing
Dawg I'm not saying that Sukuna was healing during 237. I'm just saying that I think Gege didn't wanna draw hella lines lol
 
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