#Predicted
Range options are not a threat, Diavolo will not try to block them but see them coming via precog, erase time and disappear out of sight by the time time goes back to normal again, having now the trajectory of where the projectiles came like a line being drawn in the air. People didn't point out that his precog helps against projectiles.
This isn't why range was brought up. No one has disagreed with this?
Range was brought up because:
A. Corvo can just time stop + hit a ranged attack at Diavolo to one-shot. The point about range being an advantage for Corvo is the fact that whilst both of their time abilities allow them to gain an immediate advantage, Corvo can abuse this at a longer range. Diavolo has to get within two meters of Corvo to actually do anything to him whilst in time erase, whereas Corvo has ranged attacks that he can use in time stop to avoid this problem. Diavolo wouldn't be able to do anything
within time stop as he has no
Nothing you've presented here is a counter to that argument, range was always in reference to time hax (Which Diavolo can't do anything as he doesn't resist time stop.
SBA dictates they start at 4KM (Diavolo has uni range, so by SBA this is true),range is definitely a factor here, especially in regard to two time haxxers who can essentially neg their opponents abilities to do anything. What matters is their ability to capitalize on this, which Corvo would have more capacity to do given his higher range, which is another reason it's advantage for Corvo and threat to Diavolo, not simply Corvo shooting them outright. I agree that Diavolo can counter range through blocking normally through his precog and shi, but he won't be able to do so in time stop.
Also, we even admitted that normal range wouldn't be effective against KC. O
bviously precog helps against range normally. That's not why range was brought up!!!!
Given his usual strategy of not being on sight and attack from behind, this new scenario would give Diavolo a certain advantage.
He's gonna be 4KM away. He's not gonna be anywhere close to Corvo by the time time erasure is finished.
Also, Corvo's can predict movements with dark vision, so Corvo would be able to see where he ends up after a skip. Don't quote me on this tho.
It was removed from his profile for being redundant and useless in most situations, but Diavolo himself has Possession of the body he's in. This is a full possession and can even manipulate the memories of the host to fit his ends, Diavolo also shows to remain conscious when Doppio or Trish are the ones controlling the body. So now, in this context,
even w/o the Possession being limited, Diavolo would not resist the Possession but remain aware while on it, then screw up Corvo like he could with Doppio and Trish. Heck if Corvo doesn't have feats that show he can Possess a body with 2 souls then there is a solid argument that his possession won't even work on Diavolo.
Firstly, multiple selves doesn't grant resistance to possession. That's not an inherent aspect of the power, nor is that accepted anywhere. Your'e incredulity about Corvo's ability to posess Diavolo on the ground of him having two souls is baseless. There's no reason he would need feats.
I also don't care about Diavolo's ability to affect Corvo whilst Possession is active, nor if he's able to remain in control, as it's not relevant as to why it was brought up as a wincon. Possession was brought up because Corvo can sleep hax his opponent by exiting their body after a possession Corvo can choose to possess Diavolo, then end the ability to score an instant incap win. The wincon possession grants Corvo (and why it was brought up) was that it was effectively ranged sleep hax that didn't travel, which would beat Diavolo if it landed. Nothing you argued counters that wincon. Whether or not Diavolo can control or affect Corvo is irrelevant to the fact that corvo can leave his Diavolo's body (at will or duration) and incap him.
There's no resistance on profile so I probably don't have to accept this lmao.
Diavolo doesn't need to make sure fate is on his side with precog before using Time Erase
as said here, he simply sometimes doesn't attack his foe before knowing that. In terms of defensive options, mobility and sometimes for no reason, he erases time. Added to it, he can still have precog within Erased Time, which can let him know not to drop it yet if needed to.
I'll concede on the "need" point I guess. The general point of the comment is that he starts with precog, which goes unresponded to.
So overall, this should be reevaluated. How Diavolo uses his main 2 powers was not handled as well as it could.
Wdym when you say "re-evaluated." People voting doesn't make the debate stop or sum.
If this is a ramble, or incoherent, then sorry. I'm on Iphone.
