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MCU Phase 6 General Discussion Thread

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Spider-Man Multi Continent

Mcu Spider-Man > Mark 50 Infinity war novel states that Tony was being outmatched by Cull in every way and that he knew he was losing and wouldn't hold out much longer, realizing that Cull was much more than just brute force, until he was saved by Spider-Man, who stopped Cull's hammer as if he...
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Mcu Spider-Man Multi Continent Level

Mcu Spider-Man > Mark 50 Infinity war novel states that Tony was being outmatched by Cull in every way and that he knew he was losing and wouldn't hold out much longer, realizing that Cull was much more than just brute force, until he was saved by Spider-Man, who stopped Cull's hammer as if he...
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SPOILER revealed on set during Daredevil: Born Again season 3 filming:
 
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Regarding MCU temperature values

Mark VI Iron Man's lasers have an energy output of 200 petawatts. After doing some research on Google, I found out that this corresponds to a temperature of approximately 10 billion degrees (600 times hotter than the Sun’s core). According to the study titled “Powerful laser is ‘brightest light...
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Eli Morrow (MCU) nerf

Lifting Strength, Striking Strength and Durability Nerf His creation powers only scale to his AP, not his LS SS or Dura. He never endured the plutonium bomb, Robby started burning him to death before it detonated. Also after it did, he never survived. His Dura should instead be street level as...
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These profiles needs to fix for Universe being infinite H3A

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Thanos (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

Thanos, referred to as the Dark Lord by his most loyal underlings and the Mad Titan by the galactic community, is a powerful Titan warlord who rules over a distant region of space and commands two massive armies, known as the Chitauri and the Outriders, and a small group of followers known as...
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The Orb (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

One of the six Infinity Stones created by the Cosmic Entities, the Power Stone enables whoever uses it to annihilate entire planets and wield immense power. But the stone was just as dangerous to its handler as it was to those it was used against. Eventually, the Power Stone was placed in an Orb...
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Infinity Gauntlet (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

The Infinity Stones are the condensed remains of six Singularities that existed long before the current universe. Every Stone holds a power so vast that it lies beyond mortal comprehension. Each controls a primordial aspect of the universe: space, reality, time, power, mind, and soul. To wield...
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KaramcaS said:
These profiles needs to fix for Universe being infinite H3A
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The universe is accepted as spatially infinite while the matter within it is finite, so we distinguish between destroying just the material universe (3-A) and the entire universe including its infinite space (High 3-A)
 
RoTt35 said:
The universe is accepted as spatially infinite while the matter within it is finite, so we distinguish between destroying just the material universe (3-A) and the entire universe including its infinite space (High 3-A)
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KaramcaS said:
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The Aether can only reach that tier through a specific event (consuming the Nine Worlds) during a specific time (during the Convergence each 5000 years). It's unlikely for Thanos to know that or how to do it, so that tier isn't indexed in his profile since he cannot achieve it
 
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Ghost Rider (MCU) Buff

An old thread may have nerfed Ghost Rider prematurely. Ghost Rider should scale to Hulk Retreat is lined with "silicon carbide coated vibranium alloy" and "can withstand a Hulk-sized force." Although it's true that the Containment Module can adapt to powers (like melting), to say that "most...
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AguilaR202 said:
It’s the thanos squad effing up scaling, cull obsidian fighting Tony then Spider-Man then Hulkbuster
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Okay, so Mark 50 and Iron Spider both scale to Cull Obsidian while Mark 50 also scales to Thanos
AguilaR202 said:
finally getting stomp killed by giant man means they have no idea of his actual place in the totem pole.
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Giant Man Upscale 😂

Jokes aside, wouldn't that make it an Outlier?
Cull Obsidian fought the Mark 50 which could fight Thanos, and the Hulkbuster 2.0 which is supposed to be an upgrade from the original so close to Hulk Tier?
Main issue comes with Iron Spider but we could possibly say that Iron Spider simply has extra strength cause it's nanotech or sum? Or get into the rabbit hole of how inconsistent Iron Spider seems, mind you Raimiverse Doc Ock could break the Suit so that's something
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Didn't Cull Obsidian beat the dogshit out of Thanos in a What-If episode?
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Not really, Cull Obsdian was actually coming closer to losing judging by how casually Thanos blocked him (Bro pulled a Spider-Man on him)
Only reason he was losing at the end was cause Proxima Midnight came from behind and sliced his leg

Individually, he was winning but together the jump on an injured Thanos who was not serious is enough to leave him on the ground

 
So Cull seems to more consistently be around Thanos/Hulk Level (not their equals, js close enough to them for it to matter)

So since Spidey is likely getting nerfed in BND and Giant Man being an clear outlier, seems fair to not downgrade Iron Man again
 
InfinityUltron said:
Okay, so Mark 50 and Iron Spider both scale to Cull Obsidian while Mark 50 also scales to Thanos
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Actually
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Thanos was holding back throughout Infinity War so this isn't exactly a reliable situation
 
Cardex01 said:
Actually Thanos was holding back throughout Infinity War so this isn't exactly a reliable situation
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I mean we don't have any other feats we can scale him off
Then again he could physically harm the guy who is Hulk Tier, even if holding back doesn't mean he held back his Durability

If I remember, Iron man was previously Moon Level and then Multi-Continental so he's just scaling off his showings against Thanos like him staggering, harming and drawing blood from Thanos who was impressed.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
He’s going to be upscaled as he’s about to smoke hulk who’s stronger then he’s ever been before or no
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We don't kow how he's going to perform against Hulk yet, we've seen 2 seconds of the fight

We also don't know if this will be the strongest Hulk we've ever seen, or at least I don't think there's any official confirmation that he is

I am excited to see how it goes though
 
InfinityUltron said:
I remember reading in a CRT that BND is gonna nerf Spidey's chainscale showings so he's closer to Street Tier than Hulk Tier

Don't remember much tho
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He's....always been a street tier...?

You know he's always been 8-C (or 9-A, prior to when the Super Soldier tiers got upgraded), right...?

You're acting like he's currently Tier 6
 
These should be the remaining reference books still left to be released this year:
Plus the remaining three Fantastic Four comics, two of which include Fantastic Four: First Foes - Shalla-Bal (July) and Fantastic Four: First Foes: Dragon Man (September)
 
I feel like at any rate Spidey and the like require more backing for their 8-C tier anyhow, ie: he should definitely scale to IM1/2 arc reactor output by tanking electros arc reactor amped blasts.
 
AguilaR202 said:
I feel like at any rate Spidey and the like require more backing for their 8-C tier anyhow, ie: he should definitely scale to IM1/2 arc reactor output by tanking electros arc reactor amped blasts.
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Electro no-diffed all 3 of them and only got beat from Doctor Octopus sneak-attacking him, I definetly wouldn't say they scale
 
AguilaR202 said:
I feel like at any rate Spidey and the like require more backing for their 8-C tier anyhow, ie: he should definitely scale to IM1/2 arc reactor output by tanking electros arc reactor amped blasts.
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The Crossbones Gauntlets used against Captain America (which later became the Shocker Gauntlets used against Spider-Man) increase the user's striking power by x10

Now, currently, we have guys like Hawkeye and Crossbones downscaling with that multiplier for their current 9-A rating, but via Ant-Man (who has his own 9-A feat), they'd be 9-A even without the Shuri 8-C feat. So even just going off of the Ant-Man 9-A feat (which Crossbones scales back to via Falcon), the multipliers puts those gauntlets at 8-C. A lotta people are forgetting about that one

Food for thought I guess since the Shuri feat always gets debated
 
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There is some potential 8-C stuff I’ve found from Spidey’s MCU films, but they come with context that doesn’t necessarily help with scaling
 
Yeah I don’t really like shuri calc because vibranium shenanigans, except for one kick that sort of hurt Namor ( which outright makes her relative to his stats whilst suitless if the scaling is taken to its logical conclusion ) vibranium allows characters to soak up a lot of damage despite not being entirely covered by it, lest we say Falcon Cap was using his normal human stats to catch and endure stray hits from Rulk.
 
Some pages from the upcoming From Endgame to Doomsday: A Marvel Studios Visual Dictionary: Avengers, Allies, and Foes can be previewed on Amazon.

Some details that stuck out:
  • It is stated multiple times that Shang-Chi defeating the Dweller in Darkness saved the entire world.
  • The Ironheart Mk. 2 armor is confirmed to be infused with Vibranium
  • Sam Wilson's Captain America suit is confirmed to have Vibranium infused in the body's fabric, the helmet is stated to be a Vibranium alloy (backing up previous statements), and the Redwing drones are also specifically mentioned to have Vibranium-enhanced durability. Also points the wing blades being able to piercing a Hulk and the wings being able to withstand hits from an angry Hulk in a general enough manner that it's presumably meant to be just as capable against other Hulks besides Ross.
  • Ghost is specified to be super-fast while intangible, and super-strong while solid.
 
any X-men 97 s2 discussion? why don't we have profiles for x97 still, been waiting for them since the first season came out
 
I mean the arc reactor is just the power source of the suit, it passively generates gigajoules of energy, it’s not the actual limit for the what the suit has in stock if you actually think about it because its power is measured in percentages of energy despite the arc reactors sustained output meaning it actually stores higher quantities of energy for operation.
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
We don't kow how he's going to perform against Hulk yet, we've seen 2 seconds of the fight

We also don't know if this will be the strongest Hulk we've ever seen, or at least I don't think there's any official confirmation that he is

I am excited to see how it goes though
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This. We've had attempts to upscale/downscale characters based on a few seconds in a trailer before and it almost always ended badly because the actual fight didn't go the way we thought it would. So we should just wait and see, especially since BND isn't that far from us now
 
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