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Deltarune: Chapter 5 (SPOILER!!) Discussion Thread

Eden_Warlock99 said:
Pink's profile is done. Yall think I missed anything or got anything wrong, or nah?
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It seems all good, aside from a period missing at the end of her summary’s first paragraph.

Just a weird question though, are her sprites repeated for each quote or are all the quotes connected to one sprite? I ask because repeating the same image multiple times looks awkward on mobile imo. Not a big deal, but just wondering.
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
Just a weird question though, are her sprites repeated for each quote or are all the quotes connected to one sprite? I ask because repeating the same image multiple times looks awkward on mobile imo. Not a big deal, but just wondering.
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The Body and Ghost sprites aren't repeated (Their quotes are all connected to one sprite) but I had to duplicate regular Pink so she could swap into her concert outfit for the concert quote. Oh well, something about omelettes.
 
Question for team profiles: if a character is explicitly stated to be a part of a team, but never has a chance to fight alongside the other members of that team, should they still be included in a team profile? Talking about Pink here.
 
Ghengiroo115 said:
Question for team profiles: if a character is explicitly stated to be a part of a team, but never has a chance to fight alongside the other members of that team, should they still be included in a team profile? Talking about Pink here.
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Not an expert but i think it should be fine to include
 
Edutyn said:
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Evaluated
Need Evaluation

AP:
Susie throws Tenna: 107572 joules (Wall level)
Jevil drops a giant scythe: 207806.374362 J (Wall level)
Susie & Kris Fall: 284475 joules (Wall Level)
Susie destroy toilet: 484840 joules (Wall level)
Ralsei hates darkners: 1433405J (Wall Level)
Susie carries Tenna: 4495410 joules (Wall Level)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 0.004 tonnes of TNT (Wall Level)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 0.00598707656 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Spamton Neo GPE: 0.02140910457 tons of tnt to 0.03167987091 tons of tnt (Small Building Level)
The Gang slams into a door: 0.061 tonnes (Small Building Level)
The Weather Duo Temparature Feats: 0.02722124582 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level) & 0.09241312608 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Giga Queen PE: 0.028 Tons of TNT (Building Level to 0.2691189306 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 0.15 Tons (Small Building Level)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 0.328 tonnes of TNT(Building Level)
Baseball PE: 1.01502071142 Tons of TNT (Building Level)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 2.82016951411 Tons of TNT (Large Buiding Level)
Titan Fist: 3.03 tonnes of TNT (Large Building Level)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 6.4681948663 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Detatchable Hands KE: 4.94373372693 MJ up to 6.96338152094 Tons of TNT (Wall Level to Large Building Level)
A cat ball: 127,72003207 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 142.05 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: 166 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 626.10413327 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level+)
Gerson is fast: 0.4 tonnes of TNT to 4.944 kilotons (Building Level to Small Town Level+)
Titan's PE: 18.376 kilotons (Town Level)
Pink's Explosion: 52.8587693644 Kilotons to 175.861915475 Kilotons (Town Level to Large Town Level)
Tenna's Weather Report: 910.1375932 Tons Of TNT up to 347.95797 Kilotons (Multi-City Block Level+ up to Large Town Level)
Miss Mizzle creates a storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons (Small City Level)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: 1.16164295181 Petatons (Continental Level)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": 398.8374459963 Petatons (Multi-Continental Level)

Speed:
Golden Tenna is kicked: 28.9330285714m/s (Superhuman)
Susie blocks soundwaves: 62.81 m/s (Subsonic)
Rudinn dashes off: 20.9004444445 m/s up to 104.502222222 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 135.1268572 m/s (Subsonic)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 144.658064516m/s (Subsonic))
Giga Queen has mad hops: 150.7757143 m/s (Subsonic)
Shadowguy dashes off: 28.2249305555 m/s up to 169.349583333 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Jevil Final Chaos Speed: 335.900000001 m/s (Transonic)
Knight sword slash speed: Mach 1.4664003415 (Supersonic)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: Mach 1.66 (Supersonic)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: Mach 2.94 (Supersonic+)
The justice hits hard: Mach 5.0749089039 (Hypersonic)
Mics, Cats & SOUL Check: Mach 8.5 (Hypersonic) | Mach 3.41666666667 (Supersonic+) | Mach 7 (Hypersonic)
A cat ball: Mach 8.55555555556 (Hypersonic)
Detatchable Hands KE: 43.64560153 m/s to Mach 9.768429826 (Subsonic to Hypersonic)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: Mach 16.9 (Hypersonic+)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: Mach 25.2 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack: Mach 33 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: Mach 40 (High Hypersonic)
Cat Big Paw: Mach 79.8 (High Hypersonic+)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: Mach 102.476020408 (Massively Hypersonic)
Pink's Explosion: Mach 76.0625671321 to 113.550546647 (High Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonicl)
The cats are fast: Mach 216.4 (Massively Hypersonic)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": Mach 253.17605042 (Massively Hypersonic)
Gerson is fast: Mach 2.78 to Mach 308.3 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic)
Tenna's Smash Cut: 447.866666667 m/s to Mach 324.198250729 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic) (?)
Flowery moves REALLY fast: Mach 1336.48587471 (Massively Hypersonic+)


LS:
Kris throws SOUL: 1.5 tonnes (Class 5)
Susie throws Tenna: 302 tonnes (Class K)
Spamton Neo GPE: 633,218.627296 kg to 849,556.67565 kg (Class K)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 1513.4205363 Tons (Class M)
Giga Spamton is pushed: 4278.43879792 Tons to 5740.16001022 Tons (Class M)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: 20860 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 28993 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 384982 tons (Class M)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 478,649.6414 Tons (Class M)
A cat ball: 159066953.35 Tons (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 204.24 million tons of force (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 270564838.768 tons (Class G)
Gerson is fast: 102858 tons of force to 1.27 billion tons of force (Class M to Class T)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: 4.4257219e+17kg (Class P)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": 1.1756714e+23kgf (Class Z)

Other
Dark World Radius: 174.88464km
Giant Pink Size: 13.5m (Large Size Type 1)
 
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Edutyn said:
Evaluated
Need Evaluation

AP:
Susie throws Tenna: 107572 joules (Wall level)
Jevil drops a giant scythe: 207806.374362 J (Wall level)
Susie & Kris Fall: 284475 joules (Wall Level)
Susie destroy toilet: 484840 joules (Wall level)
Ralsei hates darkners: 1433405J (Wall Level)
Susie carries Tenna: 4495410 joules (Wall Level)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 0.004 tonnes of TNT (Wall Level)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 0.00598707656 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Spamton Neo GPE: 0.02140910457 tons of tnt to 0.03167987091 tons of tnt (Small Building Level)
The Gang slams into a door: 0.061 tonnes (Small Building Level)
The Weather Duo Temparature Feats: 0.02722124582 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level) & 0.09241312608 Tons of TNT (Small Building Level)
Giga Queen PE: 0.028 Tons of TNT (Building Level to 0.2691189306 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 0.15 Tons (Small Building Level)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 0.328 tonnes of TNT(Building Level)
Baseball PE: 1.01502071142 Tons of TNT (Building Level)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 2.82016951411 Tons of TNT (Large Buiding Level)
Titan Fist: 3.03 tonnes of TNT (Large Building Level)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 6.4681948663 Tons of TNT (Large Building Level)
Detatchable Hands KE: 4.94373372693 MJ up to 6.96338152094 Tons of TNT (Wall Level to Large Building Level)
A cat ball: 127,72003207 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 142.05 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: 166 tonnes of TNT (Multi-City Block Level)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 626.10413327 Tons of TNT (Multi-City Block Level+)
Gerson is fast: 0.4 tonnes of TNT to 4.944 kilotons (Building Level to Small Town Level+)
Titan's PE: 18.376 kilotons (Town Level)
Pink's Explosion: Radius of 714.23m would yield 19 kilotons (Town Level)
Tenna's Weather Report: 910.1375932 Tons Of TNT up to 347.95797 Kilotons (Multi-City Block Level+ up to Large Town Level)
Miss Mizzle creates a storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons (Small City Level)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: 1.16164295181 Petatons (Continental Level)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": 398.8374459963 Petatons (Multi-Continental Level)

Speed:
Golden Tenna is kicked: 28.9330285714m/s (Superhuman)
Susie blocks soundwaves: 62.81 m/s (Subsonic)
Rudinn dashes off: 20.9004444445 m/s up to 104.502222222 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Thrash Machine punches a baseball: 135.1268572 m/s (Subsonic)
Spamton Neo Explosion: 144.658064516m/s (Subsonic))
Giga Queen has mad hops: 150.7757143 m/s (Subsonic)
Shadowguy dashes off: 28.2249305555 m/s up to 169.349583333 m/s (Superhuman to Subsonic)
Jevil Final Chaos Speed: 335.900000001 m/s (Transonic)
Knight sword slash speed: Mach 1.4664003415 (Supersonic)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: Mach 1.66 (Supersonic)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: Mach 2.94 (Supersonic+)
The justice hits hard: Mach 5.0749089039 (Hypersonic)
Mics, Cats & SOUL Check: Mach 8.5 (Hypersonic) | Mach 3.41666666667 (Supersonic+) | Mach 7 (Hypersonic)
A cat ball: Mach 8.55555555556 (Hypersonic)
Detatchable Hands KE: 43.64560153 m/s to Mach 9.768429826 (Subsonic to Hypersonic)
Mike's Switch Final Attack: Mach 16.9 (Hypersonic+)
Pink's Explosion: Radius of 714.23m in 0.1s gives Mach 20.82 (Hypersonic+)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: Mach 25.2 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack: Mach 33 (High Hypersonic)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: Mach 40 (High Hypersonic)
Cat Big Paw: Mach 79.8 (High Hypersonic+)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: Mach 102.476020408 (Massively Hypersonic)
The cats are fast: Mach 216.4 (Massively Hypersonic)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": Mach 253.17605042 (Massively Hypersonic)
Gerson is fast: Mach 2.78 to Mach 308.3 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic)
Tenna's Smash Cut: 447.866666667 m/s to Mach 324.198250729 (Supersonic to Massively Hypersonic) (?)
Flowery moves REALLY fast: Mach 1336.48587471 (Massively Hypersonic+)


LS:
Kris throws SOUL: 1.5 tonnes (Class 5)
Susie throws Tenna: 302 tonnes (Class K)
Spamton Neo GPE: 633,218.627296 kg to 849,556.67565 kg (Class K)
Golden Tenna is kicked: 1513.4205363 Tons (Class M)
Giga Spamton is pushed: 4278.43879792 Tons to 5740.16001022 Tons (Class M)
Spamton Neo can make his hands into phones: 20860 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager returns back her whip: 28993 tons (Class M)
Tasque manager swings it incredibly fast: 384982 tons (Class M)
Giga Queen has mad hops: 478,649.6414 Tons (Class M)
A cat ball: 159066953.35 Tons (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack: 204.24 million tons of force (Class G)
Mike's PC Final Attack 2: 270564838.768 tons (Class G)
Gerson is fast: 102858 tons of force to 1.27 billion tons of force (Class M to Class T)
A Fox becomes THE SUN: 4.4257219e+17kg (Class P)
Flowery Moves the "SUN": 1.1756714e+23kgf (Class Z)

Other
Dark World Radius: 174.88464km
Giant Pink Size: 13.5m (Large Size Type 1)
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My pink's explosion calc that you linked just gets the explosion area, if you have the calculation of the AP from the area, I could add it (but I don't know the low end of small building level)
 
Breadbear83 said:
My pink's explosion calc that you linked just gets the explosion area, if you have the calculation of the AP from the area, I could add it (but I don't know the low end of small building level)
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For the explosion you can use this formula: W = R^3*((27136*P+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2, where W is the yield in tons of TNT, R is the radius in meters, and P is the shockwave pressure in bars, which you can see more about below. For this specific formula, there is no need to divide the result by 2. P= 1.37895.

Or just use this

btw, how did you get the 714.23m? Cuz using the values you calc get about 650-730m in radius
 
Edutyn said:
For the explosion you can use this formula: W = R^3*((27136*P+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2, where W is the yield in tons of TNT, R is the radius in meters, and P is the shockwave pressure in bars, which you can see more about below. For this specific formula, there is no need to divide the result by 2. P= 1.37895.

Or just use this

btw, how did you get the 714.23m? Cuz using the values you calc get about 650-730m in radius
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See at scan 3, the 30m are subtracting the explosion area not adding it

Then considering the buildings being over 200 meters in the background, it reaches a bit more
 
Edutyn said:
For the explosion you can use this formula: W = R^3*((27136*P+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2, where W is the yield in tons of TNT, R is the radius in meters, and P is the shockwave pressure in bars, which you can see more about below. For this specific formula, there is no need to divide the result by 2. P= 1.37895.

Or just use this

btw, how did you get the 714.23m? Cuz using the values you calc get about 650-730m in radius
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added AP and speed there, its actually 16.59 Kilotons of TNT

also, in the sun size calc i added your idea of 1000x asgore height to the cliffs, i wouldnt add the end of the top of the castle supposedly reaching clouds, cuz at the end of flowery fight, we climb the vines who already started near the very top of the castle, yet the clouds arent visibly at the level or below of the castle
 
Edutyn said:
Edited this, i calced Pink explosion and surprisingly it good a bit higher than before
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in your calc, you got area of the explosion both from whats on the left of it and a bit of what it has on the right?, the area would only be whats either on the left or right, specially left as it has more buildings

thats why i backtracked in my calc from a dog building on the right before the explosion happens (in scan 3)

also, you can angsize how far the buildings are, using one of the windows gave me them at 222.79m, which adds onto it moving to the left

(i changed my calc with your formula, if i didnt understand how you calced the area of the explosion you can clarify but i think you mistaken it)
 
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