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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Yes... which is why Agender characters are classifies as "Genderless" or "None" or "Inaplicaple" in our gender category, "Non-Binary" is used exclusively for character that identify as such gender, instead of the ones that don't identify as having a gender to begin with, pronouns alone can't tell us much in this situation
Battle for Dream Island character has non-binary before Kris, Frisk, and Chara, famously non-binary characters since 2016. Truly this place is hell.
 
Winner has non-binary before Kris, Frisk, and Chara, famously non-binary characters since 2016. Truly this site is a rancid hell hole of death.
None of them are confirmed Non-Binary, Frisk and Chara specially since Toby refuses to answer questions about their gender and Toby uses "They/Them" when not wanting to assign Gender to his characters, like Monster Kid, so we can't exactly use pronouns to confirm anything in this situation imo
 
I tend to avoid the topic within the fandom because it always end up being controversial, but it seems like this place isn't safe from it either 😭.
 
I say we should also put Tenna's gender as Unknown. Like what if he's actually a He/Him Lesbian?
He/Him are pronouns associated with Males, It isn't the same situation as a gender NEUTRAL pronoun such as "They/Them", which can be used by Males, Females, Nonbinary, Agender, etc

Also I don't see what sexuality has to do with anything? Specially since Tenna is called "KING of only", which is a title for a "Male Ruler"
 
He/Him are pronouns associated with Males, It isn't the same situation as a gender NEUTRAL pronoun such as "They/Them", which can be used by Males, Females, Nonbinary, Agender, etc
Ah, so only when it's he/him or she/her it's fine and dandy say they're male or female based off that (even though that's far from being a concrete rule), but god forbid we use they/them for non-binary suddenly you got an issue with it...

I see how it is. I've downgraded you to level -1 woke.
 
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Toby Fox would implode writing a straight relationship in his game, let alone make suselle a straight ship. that is the only thing holding this back from being factual information.
 
Toby Fox would implode writing a straight relationship in his game, let alone make suselle a straight ship. that is the only thing holding this back from being factual information.
This is also why in every universe asgore and toriel get divorced. their god unfortunately cannot have them together, it's against the very laws of the universe.
 
Ah, so only when it's he/him or she/her it's fine and dandy say they're male or female based off that (even though that's far from being a concrete rule)
It is a concrete rule tho? Or at least the standard assumption... specially since "King" is specifically a "Male Ruler", aka, intrinsically Male

but god forbid we use they/them for non-binary suddenly you got an issue with it...
I... got no problem with it? It is a Gender NEUTRAL pronoun by its very nature... it isn't the same situation

Specially when people that haven't decided their gender equally use "They/Them"... excluding them because you want to force a neutral pronoun on to a specific group they don't fall in is... well, very exclusive to do

I see how it is. I've downgraded you to level -1 woke.
I am uncomfortable for the implications you are doing with this phrasing over me simply having different views than you... I kindly ask that you stop
 
Isn't it possible to calculate the AP of a fireball based on its size? If we did that for Toriel and Asgore what would that yield?
 
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