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holy bum. icl all chinamen get plot diffed by recreators
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The Quintessential 1-A Upgrade + Other Stuff(Re:Creators)
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You should add NEP Type 1 “Plot” for Re;Creators
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we can run plot for plot. Repeak vs ruler of the unknown
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alr NEP 2 layered for Plot, tells u how much verse is cooked
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Bro got silenced by a single statistic. Crying. Mfs will really rep any slop they find nowadays
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diamonds are hard to find for a reason. dirt can be found everywhere
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god forbid guys aint fiending over a thread online
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But nobody actively searches for dirt.
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ur stats say otherwise
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Recreator get plit diffed lol
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No clue about the series, not gonna return to this, but to break out of the chain of shitposts this more so looks to me like Kingdom Hearts' reverse High 1-A cosmology where the real world is still like 1-C but there's countless 11-C stacked below. In short, I don't think this works, not to mention, didn't the fictional characters literally ascend to the real world? That's a disqualifier in on itself.
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Ascending isn’t a disqualifier if it’s supported by a 1-A power. Not that, ya know, I’m gonna bother reading the thread or watch the series to find out.
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Except, the worlds "below" are not restrained by "11-C" in this series. Literally Hounds of Tindalos is there for an example lol
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Regardless from what I've read the lower worlds seem inferior to baseline reality as a whole, lacking smells, concepts normal than reality. This seems to me less of "real world is an ultimate reality" and more tha it's simply the actual baseline world whilst the rest are incomplete similarly to how we aren't tier 1-A for surpassing our own dreams which are often incomplete in a similar vein, lacking certain concepts that the real worlds has.
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wow!!?!?! thank you for enlightening me, 11-C to Low 1-A is inferior to 1-A? thats an astonishing fact i just learned. also baseline reality doesnt mean anything, i dont appeal to what u consider baseline reality.
that incompleteness is grounds for irreducibility and being "fundamentally different" in nature.
disanalogous, our dreams dont exist and being similar isnt enough for symmetry between the two. you even ignored when the other dude said the worlds have an established range of low 2-C to Low 1-A (Yes this includes High 1-B however thats taken from a author statement so its not going to be relevant here)
idek what ur objection is since everything you say is incoherent. It being incomplete supports the idea the superior realm is 1-A
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And I don't appeal to you acting like a jackass. This looks very much like a baseline reality and the fictional ones seem simply fictional to me.
To me this seems like it proves that they are, well, incomplete because they're literally below the actual reality. Like the aforementioned dreams being fragmented in our minds despite seeming similar to actual reality.
Yes, our dreams don't exist, that's the point. that's the whole point of r>f via dreams, they aren't real despite seeming real and thus you are above them. You can very much have a reverse 1-A structure and even a High 1-A structure, this seems like that to me.
You're the one being incoherent. It proves superiority over the lower realm (to an extent, just being incomplete compared to the higher realm isn't proof of irreducibility, the whole point of irreducibility is that a 1-A character cannot divide itself into lower reality parts, as in, no matter how much you slice you can't turn 1-A into Low 1-A or below) but it doesn't prove that the real world is an actual superior high existence rather than just the baseline world with several lower fictional realms below it.
Regardless, I have no horse in this race and I have no reason to continue this. If you get this to pass then ig maybe you had more to show than what I am seeing right now.
I do however disagree with this from the evidence I've seen thus far.
I think you should make an actual cosmology blog and present it properly that way.
If you want to get this evaluated then @Qawsedf234, @Agnaa and @DontTalkDT are the ones you should ask for evaluation. You can also ask other admins but they usually don't touch upon tier 1 series, though they may be able to ping some knowledgeable staff. You could ask Ultima but I don't think I've seen him around for aeons atp so probably a hopeless endeavor.
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wow, sarcasm really ticks you off doesnt it.
ur just using terms for the sake of it. Could you PLEASE disambiguate the terms because this makes no sense in this context. the fictional ones could be fictional in a sense and not fictional in a another sense in this context. and this goes for baseline reality too, it could be the lowest relative point in a cosmology or something else. i cant respond to you unless you give me enough information to work on
??? im starting to question whether you even read the thread at all. and again ur using terms for the sake of it. actual already means existing in reality
. adding reality to it just makes it redundant. Like i said, ur example is DISANALOGOUS it does not apply here.moving on, is it a surprise that a non 1-A realm lacks things that are present in a 1-A realm? ur criticism is literally js assumes the "actual reality" is the real world, which idek what that means cuz its straight gibberish, and ur basically arguing a regular universe, aka ur "fictional ones" is considered incomplete relative to a ontologically superior "actual reality" realm. like what? yes thats literally supposed to be the case.
and the storyworlds exists, so ggs you admit ur example isnt applicable here. so everything else you said is irrelevant.
mmm yes, using terms that are defined, having logical connections between the points is incoherent very nice.
im crine bro, you definitely havent read the OP nor have you ever considered what incompleteness entails. but its fine, ill teach you sum. something is divisible if it can be completely decomposed into its constituents. something indivisible/irreducible cannot be exhaustively decomposed into its constituents, and so, if we have a lower realm that is "incomplete" aka it lacks qualites fundamental to the higher realm, then no amount of division of the higher realm can ever exhaustively decompose into lower realm constituents and hence it is impossible to divide thereby proving irreducibility and indivisibility.
you keep appealing to some arbitrary misinformed understanding of how the cosmology works which makes ur whole counter incoherent. the argument frankly has nothing to do with worlds being fictional or real. it could be anything for all i care. u love to ignore actual ontological claims about each world and rather focus on narrative ratings and titles.
ur unjustified in doing so.
I literally told the admins that they dont need knowledge on tier 1 to evaluate this. all you need is reading comprehension because frankly it is that blatant if ur not deadset on a arbitrary mindset that you cant validly conclude on.
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guys got angry over a lil sarcasm im fried
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Said little sarcasm clearly devolved into an aggressive manner of speech
Also epic TQQ ig
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shifting from unserious to a serious point is aggressive now
we mightve gone too soft bru.
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It's these that caught my attention.
It's fine to be serious or a little annoyed but need to bite each other like this.
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yeah it caught my attention too. idk why he had to be rude about it lwk
(keeping the dicussion active means more of a chance mods n admins see it)
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We kinda derailed a lil with shitposting. Sorryyyyyy.
I can delete my previous comments if you want btw.
I can delete my previous comments if you want btw.
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Bro knows what is derailing via being hoyoshillWe kinda derailed a lil with shitposting. Sorryyyyyy.
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i dont think it matters that much if no staff is gonna look at it in the first place lwk.We kinda derailed a lil with shitposting. Sorryyyyyy.
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So bum thread to point ain't noone gaf
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cuz its too blatant and uncontroversial
guys know the tier is true so theres nothing to gaf about
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blatant and uncontroversial at being boring maybe like lotmcuz its too blatant and uncontroversial
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Let's all stop derailing and stop being rude, okay? Back on topic, and civil discussion.
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Whether you mean this seriously or not, no biggie.yeah quite sad.
@Arceus0x i publically apologize for my insensitivity + antagonism towards you. hope we can be good friends
I didn't want you to be banned or anything of the sort, but please do not antagonize people, that's literally it. If you had left it at that in this thread it wouldn't be an issue. It only became an issue on my profile. I understand that if you like a verse you can get heated whilst defending it but nothing gives one a right to tell someone to participate in threads or not. That is all. Being confrontational is the last thing you need in a tier 1 upgrade.
My recommendation still stands btw, ask the staff I mentioned for evaluation. This isn't a matter of having "basic reading comperhension", or well, it is, in the sense that the staff members Read "1-A CRT" and Comperhend "I would rather throw myself off a cliff than get involved with this". Most staff members simply do not want to get involved with tier 1 and tier 1 debates, so it is likely in your best interests to find someone who actually does care, some being the ones I mentioned.
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mate, you're the one who posted the apology
edit: it's also not really derailing since I talked about what mods to contact for this thread
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most of it kind of is, and i already said this before, ive asked the relevant mods, they could be interested but just dont have the time to reply which is fine. and for the people youve mentioned if they were interested they would have commented already so the fact that they havent suggests otherwise. ive been strategically keeping it an active thread so theres almost no way they could have not seen it.
also i did kinda ask you nicely. so uh
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Okay, the messages above are fine, please try to stop arguing over it.
Best to get back onto topic from here though, okay?
Best to get back onto topic from here though, okay?
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It's generally better not to argue about that kind of thing unnecessarily and return to topic. This kind of argument only perpetuates the derailing.
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I'd have to agree with Arceus0x here, if the premise implies everyone and their mother becoming tier 1 by being above R>Fs, that just makes the lower realities tier 11 on grounds of the reality in question being the baseline reality, rather than just recontextualizing the "baseline" setting to 1-A or above, a site-wide CRT would be required otherwise as to allow this sort of recontextualization.
