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Vietthai96 said:
No, it would not even get range or potency, this is cosmology specific thing that allows gravity to spread all dimensions, and it will only work within cosmology that utilise brane cosmology.
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There's actually more evidence that Welt ascends and gains cognition of the 5th (what we lowball) dimension through using his Herrscher core. A constant in Imaginary Space (Imaginary Space is literally just anything not 4D) so there's actually much more of a precedent for range than you think. Especially when the Herrscher Core allows Welt to realise and perceive higher dimensions.

So even if you don't believe in the effects of Singularity Rebuild (the attack itself), saying this isn't a range feat is outright wrong lol.
 
Vietthai96 said:
Environmental Destruction is oke


No, it would not even get range or potency, this is cosmology specific thing that allows gravity to spread all dimensions, and it will only work within cosmology that utilise brane cosmology. Giving range, tier, potency to this is like giving Acausality type 1 to verse with branching timelines like Dragon Ball where the cosmology split timeline to solves time paradox
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Wait how do you agree with ED and not range or potency??? You’re literally arguing a 4D attack is affecting a 5D space how does rhat work????
 
Does a character unifying with a Tier 0, mean the character cannot be indexed as Tier 0 in ap, because the reason why he is, is a consequence of the summit of the cosmology (the Tier 0 reality)
 
Vietthai96 said:
What? No, we don't give every character in a verse with branching timeline acausality type 1
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Is there a thread regarding this being not allowed?

Because the definition of acausality requires MWI-type verses (where time travel results in alternate timelines being born) to have Acausality in a way that's combat applicable under reality equalization.
 
RaikiKurohane99 said:
Is there a thread regarding this being not allowed?

Because the definition of acausality requires MWI-type verses (where time travel results in alternate timelines being born) to have Acausality in a way that's combat applicable under reality equalization.
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Should we open a staff crt about this topic?
 
RaikiKurohane99 said:
Is there a thread regarding this being not allowed?

Because the definition of acausality requires MWI-type verses (where time travel results in alternate timelines being born) to have Acausality in a way that's combat applicable under reality equalization.
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Hey can you give your opinions whether or not Singularity Rebuild would work in cosmologies that aren’t branes pls
 
now that i think about it, this whole cosmology based abilities not being applicable to profiles or vs matches is a really dumb argument and i dont mean to be rude when i say that but seriously its a really dumb argument.

Lets take Info 2 for example. not every verse has info 2 and not every verse has the same applicable info 2. Honkai for example includes the mind and soul in their info 2 however a verse like uncle grandpa or LoTM hell even GoW dont apply info 2 in the same way as honkai. Would the ability not be applicable in a versus match or profiles because info 2 is a verse specific ability? Of course not, you might as well delete the ability from the wiki ATP.

Same thing with cm1. not every verse has cm1 and not every verse applies cm1 the same way or even to the same concepts. would we disqualify cm1 from being indexed from profiles or vs matchups? no of course not.

There are so many cosmology applicable abilities on the wiki that are indexed and used in vs matchups like reality warping, omnipresence, sometimes durability negation, power nullification and resistance negation, etc but we wouldnt disqualify those abilities from being indexed or applied to profiles just because of how the cosmology works would we?

This is either just blatant scrutiny for the sake of downplay while ignoring verse equalization or just lack of knowledge on the topic. You agree with ED but not range? Are you arguing that singularity rebuild is a 4D affecting a 5D space that views 4D space as mere fiction? How does that work and you cant argue "because gravity works on every dimension" because you still need the ability (specifically the range) to reach those dimensions to use gravity of that magnitude, unless of course you want to argue that ALL gravity abilities scale to 11D. I'd like to know what document you read that said gravity in brane cosmology has the same force on every dimension because thats just straight up incorrect. Gravity doesnt even have the same force across 3D space, Earth has way less gravity than jupitor.
 
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Mbpoops said:
now that i think about it, this whole cosmology based abilities not being applicable to profiles or vs matches is a really dumb argument and i dont mean to be rude when i say that but seriously its a really dumb argument.

Lets take Info 2 for example. not every verse has info 2 and not every verse has the same applicable info 2. Honkai for example includes the mind and soul in their info 2 however a verse like uncle grandpa or LoTM hell even GoW dont apply info 2 in the same way as honkai. Would the ability not be applicable in a versus match or profiles because info 2 is a verse specific ability? Of course not, you might as well delete the ability from the wiki ATP.

Same thing with cm1. not ever verse has cm1 and not every verse applies cm1 the same way or even to the same concepts. would we disqualify cm1 from being indexed from profiles or vs matchups? no of course not.

There are so many cosmology applicable abilities on the wiki that are indexed and used in vs matchups like reality warping, omnipresence, sometimes durability negation, power nullification and resistance negation, etc but we wouldnt disqualify those abilities from being indexed or applied to profiles just because of how the cosmology works would we?

This is either just blatant scrutiny for the sake of downplay while ignoring verse equalization or just lack of knowledge on the topic. You agree with ED but not range? Are you arguing that singularity rebuild is a 4D affecting a 5D space that views 4D space as mere fiction? How does that work and you cant argue "because gravity works on every dimension" because you still need the ability to reach those dimensions to use gravity of that magnitude, unless of course you want to argue that ALL abilities scale to 11D. I'd like to know what document you read that said gravity in brane cosmology has the same force on every dimension because thats just straight up incorrect. Gravity doesnt even have the same force across 3D space, Earth has way less gravity than jupitor.
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maybe my last message on this but just to give a few examples

Gow has info 2 runes. no other verse has info 2 runes. would the info 2 be applicable under the "cosmology based isnt applicable outside of X cosmology"? of course not.

dragon ball has cm1 ki. no other verse has cm1 ki. would cm1 ki be applicable under the same philosophy? no because its verse specific.
 
Mbpoops said:
now that i think about it, this whole cosmology based abilities not being applicable to profiles or vs matches is a really dumb argument and i dont mean to be rude when i say that but seriously its a really dumb argument.

Lets take Info 2 for example. not every verse has info 2 and not every verse has the same applicable info 2. Honkai for example includes the mind and soul in their info 2 however a verse like uncle grandpa or LoTM hell even GoW dont apply info 2 in the same way as honkai. Would the ability not be applicable in a versus match or profiles because info 2 is a verse specific ability? Of course not, you might as well delete the ability from the wiki ATP.

Same thing with cm1. not ever verse has cm1 and not every verse applies cm1 the same way or even to the same concepts. would we disqualify cm1 from being indexed from profiles or vs matchups? no of course not.

There are so many cosmology applicable abilities on the wiki that are indexed and used in vs matchups like reality warping, omnipresence, sometimes durability negation, power nullification and resistance negation, etc but we wouldnt disqualify those abilities from being indexed or applied to profiles just because of how the cosmology works would we?

This is either just blatant scrutiny for the sake of downplay while ignoring verse equalization or just lack of knowledge on the topic. You agree with ED but not range? Are you arguing that singularity rebuild is a 4D affecting a 5D space that views 4D space as mere fiction? How does that work and you cant argue "because gravity works on every dimension" because you still need the ability to reach those dimensions to use gravity of that magnitude, unless of course you want to argue that ALL abilities scale to 11D. I'd like to know what document you read that said gravity in brane cosmology has the same force on every dimension because thats just straight up incorrect. Gravity doesnt even have the same force across 3D space, Earth has way less gravity than jupitor.
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@Vietthai96 Son just call it a day, there's no way we're going on a tangent of this level over something this blatant 😭 ✌️
 
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Mbpoops said:
now that i think about it, this whole cosmology based abilities not being applicable to profiles or vs matches is a really dumb argument and i dont mean to be rude when i say that but seriously its a really dumb argument.

Lets take Info 2 for example. not every verse has info 2 and not every verse has the same applicable info 2. Honkai for example includes the mind and soul in their info 2 however a verse like uncle grandpa or LoTM hell even GoW dont apply info 2 in the same way as honkai. Would the ability not be applicable in a versus match or profiles because info 2 is a verse specific ability? Of course not, you might as well delete the ability from the wiki ATP.

Same thing with cm1. not every verse has cm1 and not every verse applies cm1 the same way or even to the same concepts. would we disqualify cm1 from being indexed from profiles or vs matchups? no of course not.

There are so many cosmology applicable abilities on the wiki that are indexed and used in vs matchups like reality warping, omnipresence, sometimes durability negation, power nullification and resistance negation, etc but we wouldnt disqualify those abilities from being indexed or applied to profiles just because of how the cosmology works would we?

This is either just blatant scrutiny for the sake of downplay while ignoring verse equalization or just lack of knowledge on the topic. You agree with ED but not range? Are you arguing that singularity rebuild is a 4D affecting a 5D space that views 4D space as mere fiction? How does that work and you cant argue "because gravity works on every dimension" because you still need the ability (specifically the range) to reach those dimensions to use gravity of that magnitude, unless of course you want to argue that ALL abilities scale to 11D. I'd like to know what document you read that said gravity in brane cosmology has the same force on every dimension because thats just straight up incorrect. Gravity doesnt even have the same force across 3D space, Earth has way less gravity than jupitor.
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Gotta agree here. I mean tbf, there are TONS of verses where the power system revolves around "Skill", and equally many (if not more) verses where there's no concept of Skills. But we never, and I mean never, assume that a skill-based power won't work against a non-skill based verse or vice versa, we just don't (I'm not including NPI related stuff for obv reasons), so the whole "doesn't give ability because its a verse wide mechanic" is just useless downplaying when the mechanic meets every single part of the definition on page otherwise.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Have to clarify your stance rq but do you agree or disagree on whether or not singularity rebuild is usable outside of brane cosmologies or if they’re only usable in them
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I think Viet is being silly, things unique to the Cosmology not being usable outside it is what reality equalization is for.
 
oblivion agreed with everything so thats 3 voted for spaceman's proposal ig

i assume this is now accepted
 
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