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The Amazing Digital Circus General Discussion Thread [Spoilers]

I predict that the fans will like it as a counter reaction to the others hating it and only in like a few years will one be allowed to say their actual thoughts
 
It'd be hilarious if the version I've seen was actually a psyop by goose to confuse leakers and the actual ending is different, or maybe it's aj experiment to see which ending would resonate the most. There's like a 0.001% of this happening but if it does it'd be amazing lol.
 
Aside from some form of godly regen or existence erasure resistance, Caine also explicitly mentions that he wasn't as powerful as before once he removed the blue what I'll dub "Abel" program. So Caine should have a 2nd key called "post erasure" or smth like that, although he can still fly, and do things the cast can't like fix Pomni's glitchy body, so he probably still can scale above/to them, the cast managed to bring back the circus grounds and can seemingly bring back lost npcs that previously existed like the moon, but notably still needed Caine to make new adventure spaces, so Caine should honestly probably just stay the same, as the amount of power he lost was unspecific, and he mentions that he wants to hand the cast control over the circus, implying they need to still go through him to make new spaces.

TLDR: Caine got weaker but should still scale to his old self somewhat, has some form of info/existence erasure resistance or low godly regen, hacking, and the cast have creation, along with possibly restoration
 
At least they aren't like certain haters who can't love anything else and will hate on the show and not try to mention any other show unless is to HATE.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
To be fair, 80% of the hate is just diehard fans who played doll with these characters, or because they hate Jax.
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Since you've seen it now and I've seen the leaked version (no cinema for me) I'll tell you my thoughts
It fumbled.
Offscreen-no-jitsu for Jax isn't even that big of an issue for me. It's more so that the episode didn't hit hard at all, instead it pulled punches and blueballed all the way.
Before the episodes were bold. Pomni didn't follow the common narrative of being hurt by Jax and beat him up instead. The Able plot was in fact a trick. Caine dies for real.
This episode honestly felt like fanfiction, mild milktoast sort of fanfiction.

Jax is a crime on its own. All this set up for 2 prior episodes and for what? So he can have a backstory that isn't even surprising? I was ready for a certain ending. I was ready for either Jax to die fully or for him to live and be happy. Instead he's now in a tent maybe forever and in a braindead state pretty much. He is stuck in what is essentially limbo. The whole hype moment of Pomni holding on to him after he realized he wants to live led to nothing. That was the first 'blueball'.

Then we had the whole Caine thing. They basically speedran his whole character arc, put a lot of the blame of his actions on Blue ball (heh) and now he's back. How did he survive? Hell if anyone knows lmao. Caine's death last time meant nothing. Suddenly he's good again and we are told "oh it may take time for them to forgive you" and then he is instantly forgiven. Why? Did the 3 days of straight torture and complete betrayal amount to nothing too?

Next is Ragatha. Jk, there was nothing important about Ragatha. Goose was all pompous about people's criticisms of Ragatha sidelining saying that she'll get development in later episodes. That was a lie, her entire relationship with Pomni got offscreened. She has amounted to nothing through the whole series.

Ribbit was dumb. She had Kaufmo, she had the rest of the circus. She simply got dumped by a guy. Harshly, sure, but not Abstraction level of harsh. Otherwise the grief from others abstracting should've killed everyone years ago. Kaufmo got abstracted after losing his friend and the going mad over finding the exit. Jax had his reality break down twice in a row. Ribbit... got badly dumped by a person she wasn't even dating. If that was enough then either it is bad writing or Jax has Social Influencing that let him Offscreen people to death.

Bubble had no explanations whatsoever. It's just dead now.

Finally there's the overall message.
-The suicidal character is now dead/stuck in limbo. Apparently he's "irredeemable" to Goose but like, bruh, he was literally redeeming himself for the past episodes. I relate to Jax in the sense of loss of what really is real and how real it all is and to me this felt like a spit in the face. "No, there's no answer, get offscreen limbo'd idiot".

-Everyone just accepts that they're fake and their real selves are living out there a good life. No biggie. Yeah sure Kinger is probably never gonna see his wife again and none of them are ever seeing their friends. They're just files on a computer that don't have to exist and will amount to nothing. But who cares? Let's do cooking class and open a bar with the AI that used our worst fears to torture us yipee!!! Let's leave some for the husk of our companion that we left in the doghouse tent thing too! Like unironically if I was shown that I'd be relieved and then I'd either ask Caine to delete me or just abstract on the spot. What point is there to being a static fake copy of someone who's living?
-At this point I just think the whole idea of "there's a point in a static life" falls apart when the life in question is just data and not the real world with real variables and consequences.

This and also just the dialogue was mid and felt weirdly cliche which is a bummer after so many peak dialogue episodes.

TL;DR
-Jax got offscreened
-Ribbit got offscreened
-Ragatha's entire character development past the gun episode got offscreened
-Bubble got offscreened
-The whole buildup for Jax's ending led nowhere
-"Somehow, Caine returned"
-Let's forgive the guy that tore us to pieces yay!
-Oh we're fake and our real selves are out there? Sure, I'll be fine without everyone I love, let's live happily in this data hellscape!

But hey, at least Gangle and Zooble shagged. Perfect end.

Ultra TL;DR : Offscreen-no-jitsu: Ultimate Blue Ball technique!
 
Definitely think that after the finale it would be great to see some final results for how these characters stack and scale. Apart from the finale we do still get the release of the manga later this year, not sure if that will have anything new or will just be shot-for-shot adaptation.
 
Jimmy.robinson.5099 said:
TBF, when was the last time ANYBODY made a finale that wasn't controversial?
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Most of the shows I've watched didn't seem to have controversial endings to be honest.
Alexander said:
Does that mean that the cast can now have infinite stamina since they were never really humans to begin with?
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You know the Jax clip still debunks that right?
 
GodlyCharmander said:
It's a suicide scene. It's meant to represent how this sort of thing happens when you least expect it.
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I know, that's why I didn't complain about that part but the rest of it
GodlyCharmander said:
95% on Rotten Tomatoes, it's not controversial whatsoever, Twitter mfs are just miserable.
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Twitter mfs are miserable but the issue is the fans calling anyone who criticizes it miserable twitter mfs.
 
Arceus0x said:
I know, that's why I didn't complain about that part but the rest of it

Twitter mfs are miserable but the issue is the fans calling anyone who criticizes it miserable twitter mfs.
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You can criticize it, I just think it's a mistake to want the character driven show to be more about the lore of the circus itself, which was a lot of people's criticism.
 
Arceus0x said:
Well in my case, I can live without the lore but it is the holes in character development that make me upset
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In terms of Episode 1-8, the development we had (development in the sense of learning about the characters and why they act a certain way) was decent. We didn't get much character progression, which is a different subset of development. Outside of Pomni.

We learn about Ragatha's self deprecating attitude as that was imposed by her mother as she said in ep 5, Gangle got a whole episode discussing why she is the way she is, we didn't get much from Zooble or Pomni, true, but Pomni's development was changing her mindset during the events of the circus itself. Gangle does learn to love herself and her tragedy mask without needing the comedy one, Pomni learns to be more confident. Kinger doesn't need to change, but we do learn about why he is the way he is. Etc.

Depends on what you mean by development.
 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
that was the most 5.5/10 shit ever i really dunno why people are cataloguing it as the most abysmal dogshit this planet's ever conceived
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It ain't abysmal but it is mid. It's like eating a lightly undercooked plain cheese pizza. Like the cheese is alright but it's not the same without the sauce and toppings.
 
Just wanna know if this is true or not?

Did Jax finally abstract? If so, I am glad it finally happened, and Gooseworks didn't back out of it due to pressure from the fandom...

I am waiting for ep 9 to be out on YouTube before watching it, I am just hoping Jax gets the ending he deserves (a bad one)
 
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