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The Amazing Downgraded Circus (TADC Downgrades)

Guns and fall damage in general are very, very inconsistent throughout fiction. Unless it's a verse consisting of normal athlete level humans (Which neither of them are, being very much based in the supernatural and fantasy genre), it's almost always the case of just writers wanking it.
That's not really something that just throws all the anti-feats out of the window. These stuff can still downgrade verses. Generally stuff with 9-C levels downgrade high tiering stuff, though seems that if verses have consistent scaling to somewhere higher, it could still be kept higher than tier 9 and 8.
Consistency by numbers alone isn't consistency, it's frequency, it's not the end-all, be-all. It's consistency with context that matters.
2) Is it a unique or exceptional incident? If incidents of a similar level are repeated consistently over time, they are unlikely to be outliers. Usually, from the third incident onwards. If the character has very few feats, we can also likely skip this point.
It is a factor, with these characters only having 2 9-A feats.
 
One of them is made by Kaufmo, leaving only one 9-B calc. 9-B off one feat with these anti-feats still make no sense.
they survive large falls with no damage, jax had his face charred, tortured by Caine, pomni got almost pulled in half by 2 trucks, theres more than enough wall level consistency, thats not negotiable
 
One of them is made by Kaufmo, leaving only one 9-B calc. 9-B off one feat with these anti-feats still make no sense.
I made a recalc of pomni snapping that big lollipop that has her height taller and so the lollipop bigger (cuz the character heights got recalced): https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Breadbear83/Pomni_snaps_a_big_Lollipop,_slight_Recalc

Besides that, there's Gangle withstanding the explosion of multiple explosives attached to her in episode 5, with everyone else in the same room also withstanding it (likely 9A)

So actually 2 9B calcs, 1 9A calc, 1 definitively 9A feat, and some other uncalculated feats likely being 9B

9C downgrade isn't even reasonable with all of this
 
they survive large falls with no damage
They do get harmed, just because you aren’t getting obliterated doesn’t mean you weren’t damaged.
Jax had his face charred
That’s… not a feat? He got his skin torn apart from skeleton.
tortured by Caine,
They all got harmed by that?
pomni got almost pulled in half by 2 trucks
Get a calc for that.
theres more than enough wall level consistency, thats not negotiable
Everything is negotiable if you push hard enough.
 
They do get harmed, just because you aren’t getting obliterated doesn’t mean you weren’t damaged.
They didnt though, they were fully functional, and steve can get hurt from fall damage, and hes 8-C
That’s… not a feat? He got his skin torn apart from skeleton.
wrong one, and that was Caine, the city level god, the one Im talking about was with Ragatha blocking the gun and it backfires, he loses 1 hp but ultimately just rubs the powder off and wasnt really all that bad
They all got harmed by that?
Once again, the reality warping god
Get a calc for that.
even without one that has to be granted higher than low street level, but fair
Everything is negotiable if you push hard enough.
If you close you're eyes and sing lalala sure, but they realistically aren't lower than 9-B if more calcs came out
 
Orange, not against 9-B circus members, it looks like thats more consistent, but the less than wall level args have as much support as 9-A, that is to say, not enough against the mountain of blatently superhuman things they've done
 
They didnt though, they were fully functional
If I punch you in your face, you will still be fully functional. Again, damage and harm isn’t just about getting obliterated.
and steve can get hurt from fall damage, and hes 8-C
Minecraft is weird, technically the weakest mobs can damage Warden so…
the one Im talking about was with Ragatha blocking the gun and it backfires, he loses 1 hp but ultimately just rubs the powder off and wasnt really all that bad
Losing HP is literally resurrection, this shows he got one-shotted.
Once again, Caine
And? The point is that you are not giving valid feats.

If you close you're eyes and sing lalala sure, but they realistically aren't lower than 9-B if more calcs came out
Always if and when, never did. Potential verse smh.
 
If I punch you in your face, you will still be fully functional. Again, damage and harm isn’t just about getting obliterated.
If I got knocked out for an hour, or you broke my skull or something, then maybe you'd have a point, but if I'm just kinda bruised or hurt, then why tf won't I scale? You don't have to no-sell something just to scale to it, and comparable characters are still able to, y'know, DAMAGE each other?
Minecraft is weird, technically the weakest mobs can damage Warden so…
Yes, Minecraft (and most other games for that matter) are weird in that aspect, but even still, no Mob has ANY business being harmed by fall damage when they all can canonically no-sell a 9-C+ to 9-B projectile, and one of the weakest Mobs can casually perform a 9-A feat
Losing HP is literally resurrection, this shows he got one-shotted.
When the hell was that established!?
 
If I got knocked out for an hour, or you broke my skull or something, then maybe you'd have a point, but if I'm just kinda bruised or hurt, then why tf won't I scale? You don't have to no-sell something just to scale to it, and comparable characters are still able to, y'know, DAMAGE each other?
That’s exactly my point, you would scale to me, but nobody would say you can tank something billions of times stronger.
Yes, Minecraft (and most other games for that matter) are weird in that aspect, but even still, no Mob has ANY business being harmed by fall damage when they all can canonically no-sell a 9-C+ to 9-B projectile, and one of the weakest Mobs can casually perform a 9-A feat
Tbf it's most likely game mechanics to make enchantment useful and cats special.
When the hell was that established!?
This is… common sense?
 
That’s exactly my point, you would scale to me, but nobody would say you can tank something billions of times stronger.
When did they ever even really get harmed by falling? Didn't gummigoo and pomni survive a massive fall with no injuries???? Doesn't that disapprove that falling really hurts them?
This is… common sense?
To actually explain it, whenever their bodies are damaged beyond survival, Caine just gives them a new one and pops them back in somewhere close by, so they do have resurrection in that instance
 
When did they ever even really get harmed by falling? Didn't gummigoo and pomni survive a massive fall with no injuries???? Doesn't that disapprove that falling really hurts them?
I don't think they ever actually get injuries, which I don't think is related to their durability, but how their bodies in the circus function. As they are practically immortal.
 
When did they ever even really get harmed by falling? Didn't gummigoo and pomni survive a massive fall with no injuries????
That fall caused painful response from Pomni. Again, no need to be obliterated to be harmed.
To actually explain it, whenever their bodies are damaged beyond survival, Caine just gives them a new one and pops them back in somewhere close by, so they do have resurrection in that instance
Yeah, so you concede it signifies one-shot, thank you.
 
That fall caused painful response from Pomni. Again, no need to be obliterated to be harmed.
Ok...a wall level character would totally make noises if they fell from high up

Source: literally any irl animal that falls
Yeah, so you concede it signifies one-shot, thank you.
Calm down, only on that front and that was still caused by a gun, and it looks like an explosion, so should get calced
 
Ok...a wall level character would totally make noises if they fell from high up

Source: literally any irl animal that falls
Are all irl animals 9-B? Even bear’s durability listed as 9-C here so…
Calm down, only on that front and that was still caused by a gun, and it looks like an explosion, so should get calced
What are you talking about. They get literally shot, there is no explosion.
Also Ragatha got flattened and survived in the 8th episode, and didn't need Caine's help, she just popped back when shaken
That’s just regeneration lol. If I reduce you to atoms through 5-B attack and you regen back, you don’t become 5-B since you still got annihilated.
 
Are all irl animals 9-B? Even bear’s durability listed as 9-C here so…
Huh...that's either a recent change or I misread it
What are you talking about. They get literally shot, there is no explosion.
You wouldn't call that back blast an explosion? Especially considering it made a massive fireball that scorched both the gun and Jax?
That’s just regeneration lol. If I reduce you to atoms through 5-B attack and you regen back, you don’t become 5-B since you still got annihilated.
Isn't durability the rating for what characters can LIVE through? She didn't die or respawn, and I would hardly call that regen

Look, 9-A circus is clearly not as consistent as 9-B, but they have a number of calced and not calced things that could support wall level, even if only low
 
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