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MochOath · Wednesday at 00:00

in before the downgrade + denjis too weak

Yuji Itadori (Shinjuku Showdown)

Attack Potency: 382.57 Kilotons, higher with Black Flash
Durability: 382.57 Kilotons
Lifting Strength: >125,959.279 Metric Tons

Pochita (Part 1)

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DragoZeroNova · Wednesday at 00:03

Jotaro Kujo FRB

Robo432343 · Wednesday at 00:04

unequalize speed

Kazuma_kuwabara · Wednesday at 00:04

Denji is Oregon level

Mommyleona · Wednesday at 00:12

Steve1775 · Wednesday at 00:13

Pochita regen is gonna be a pain won't it

MochOath · Wednesday at 00:16

DragoZeroNova said:
Jotaro Kujo FRB

counted

Robo432343 said:
unequalize speed

only if yuji gets to be mach 900

Mommyleona said:
no

yes

Arkenis · Wednesday at 00:16

Either we've done this already or I am in another universe. Voting Pochita bzzz bzzz and themes.

LaserPrecision · Wednesday at 00:29

Yuji has less than a 3x AP/Dura advantage, and he actually has feats of being resilient to cutting attacks unlike most people Pochita goes up against. So he should actually be receiving very minimal damage by comparison.

Soul attacks at the best are going to be separating Pochita from Deni, and at worst are going to be inflicting soul damage which will cause Pochita's physicals to start dropping rapidly (It didn't take long to drop Mahito to 40% and below. Pochita's going to be dropped to a fraction of his physical stats in no time). This will of course make Yuji's starting advantage an even larger gulf and make Pochita's chainsaw effectively useless.

Then there's Black Flash which Yuji can now consistently land after landing it even once (Which is very likely in a prolonged battle like this). And with each Black Flash, he's going to be obviously 2.5x more damage on top of his starting AP advantage, but also getting a 20% increase to his physical stats. Further widening the gulf with each one he lands. Pochita's going to be tickling Yuji pretty early on into the fight as a result.

Pochita's main advantage is LS, but he doesn't spam use that in-character anywho, so it's not a big issue. Yuji also has a huge skill advantage (Pochita's not skilled, but he has tactics), so he's not going to be getting caught or hit a lot to begin with compared to Pochita.

Not voting, just listing the advantages I see.

Lynieryz · Wednesday at 01:05

LaserPrecision said:
Pochita's main advantage is LS, but he doesn't spam use that in-character anywho, so it's not a big issue.

Chain Control & Acrobatics (Hypermobility & Surface Running; Skilled enough to perform a complete 360 kick even while stabbed through the chest. By disconnecting the chains off his chainsaws, Pochita is able to use them like grappling hooks to swing between buildings. Likewise, Pochita has also shown to be able to slingshot himself with his chains as well as use his chains like lassos; reeling his opponents in to be sliced up or burrow them underground for surprise attacks)

LaserPrecision said:
Yuji also has a huge skill advantage (Pochita's not skilled, but he has tactics), so he's not going to be getting caught or hit a lot to begin with compared to Pochita.

Yeah, no. They're both in the same combat skill tier here on the wiki. You'd have to give a real argument to assert what you just said, and even then they would still remain in the same tier without a CRT.

LaserPrecision said:
Yuji has less than a 3x AP/Dura advantage, and he actually has feats of being resilient to cutting attacks unlike most people Pochita goes up against. So he should actually be receiving very minimal damage by comparison.

higher with chainsaws (After reawakening within Denji, his chainsaws pierce through his main body and are capable of easily one-shotting the Hell Devil. Mak ima, and all the other hybrids in Special Division 5. In the latter fight, a single kick launched Quanxi and Miri through multiple skyscrapers, killing them both)

Yeah, no. Pochita's Chainsaws oneshots the value he scales, Yuji will be cut.

LaserPrecision said:
Soul attacks at the best are going to be separating Pochita from Deni

Nothing changes, Pochita can act separately from Denji without any consequences. All this will do is make it more likely that Pochita will rip out his own heart to create a clone and turn it into a 2v1.

Arkenis · Wednesday at 01:09

Lynieryz said:
Yeah, no. They're both in the same combat skill tier here on the wiki. You'd have to give a real argument to assert what you just said, and even then they would still remain in the same tier without a CRT.

Same tier of skill doesn't mean they're equal. Both aren't skilled much though, and Yuji's lack of mobility is the bigger issue I'd say.

Lynieryz · Wednesday at 01:12

Arkenis said:
Same tier of skill doesn't mean they're equal

LaserPrecision said:
Yuji also has a huge skill advantage (Pochita's not skilled

Lynieryz said:
They're both in the same combat skill tier here on the wiki. You'd have to give a real argument to assert what you just said

Arkenis · Wednesday at 01:54

A story old as time.

LaserPrecision · Wednesday at 02:03

Lynieryz said:
Yeah, no. They're both in the same combat skill tier here on the wiki. You'd have to give a real argument to assert what you just said, and even then they would still remain in the same tier without a CRT.

Skill isn't rated in tiers anymore. You do know that right? It's separate from intelligence after a CRT from DaReaper IIRC. Also arguing they're in the same tier doesn't mean anything even if we used the old rating system because there can be a gulf between two people in the same tier. That's like saying two people who have the same regen tier on the wiki have the exact same level of regen despite tiers of regen still having a range of potency. An example:

High: The ability to regenerate from a few scattered or lone molecules, atoms, sub-atomic particles, or pure physical energy units.

This counter-argument doesn't mean anything. If you want to go feat for feat we can or smth, but anyone who's read both series can easily tell the difference. This same difference applies to intelligence. Sharing a tier doesn't mean combatants are equal, you need to prove that.

Lynieryz said:
Yeah, no. Pochita's Chainsaws oneshots the value he scales, Yuji will be cut.

It one shots a value nearly 3x below Yuji's value. And not to mention the reason it can one shot is because it's cutting damage which has a smaller area, something I already said Yuji has been shown to withstand countless times against Sukuna. Pochita's saws will leave surface level cuts, that's it. And that's before he gets his physicals nerfed and Yuji buffs himself.

Lynieryz said:
Nothing changes, Pochita can act separately from Denji without any consequences. All this will do is make it more likely that Pochita will rip out his own heart to create a clone and turn it into a 2v1.

Which is fine. He'd still whoop Pochita's ass regardless. But you also ignored the other half because I obviously glossed over that part because that's not a big deal for Pochita.

Arkansalter2 · Wednesday at 02:20

Sooo about that regen...

Robo432343 · Wednesday at 02:24

Mahito has better regen than Pochita gng

GunshyFever · Wednesday at 02:49

Great and fun matchup idea, it will be even more fun when both verses get their scaling all patched up. Speaking of, I have been meaning to nix Pochita's Part 1 High 7-C for a good while now and from what I have heard, Shinjuku Yuji might be hitting the downgrade slammer once more.

Either way, both character pages are a load of inaccuracies, best not to waste time on a matchup that will not serve even the thinnest slice of bread and best we hold this off. I can definitely argue Pochita here, but it is not really looking all that valiant with those values, which are inaccurate. My exams are wrapping up, so I figure I will soon get to work again on the verse. Lots to do and etcetera, you'll have Denji-Man by the time I'm done.

Robo432343 · Wednesday at 02:56

meet potential match up!

GunshyFever · Wednesday at 02:59

Matchup's and such

DragoZeroNova · Wednesday at 03:14

The greatest theoretical match up of today

MochOath · Wednesday at 06:58

GunshyFever said:
Great and fun matchup idea, it will be even more fun when both verses get their scaling all patched up. Speaking of, I have been meaning to nix Pochita's Part 1 High 7-C for a good while now and from what I have heard, Shinjuku Yuji might be hitting the downgrade slammer once more.

Either way, both character pages are a load of inaccuracies, best not to waste time on a matchup that will not serve even the thinnest slice of bread and best we hold this off. I can definitely argue Pochita here, but it is not really looking all that valiant with those values, which are inaccurate. My exams are wrapping up, so I figure I will soon get to work again on the verse. Lots to do and etcetera, you'll have Denji-Man by the time I'm done.

we can larp the matchup instead

ShionAH · Wednesday at 07:59

Yuji slams, he scales to Yuta who tanked world cutting slash giving them High 3-A stats

MochOath · Wednesday at 14:51

ShionAH said:
Yuji slams, he scales to Yuta who tanked world cutting slash giving them High 3-A stats

Denji no diffed Yoru, a reality warper.
That puts him at least 1 layer above reality (low 2-C as a lowball)

AbaddonTheDisappointment · Wednesday at 18:48

MochOath said:
Denji no diffed Yoru, a reality warper.
That puts him at least 1 layer above reality (low 2-C as a lowball)

Yuji (That one cosplayer) beat up that one guy within the real world. Our world views CSM as fictional thus Yuji has an R>F level above CSM and is thus 1-A. Yuji has also appeared in both Marvel and DC thus giving him their scaling as well.

MochOath · Thursday at 04:40

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Yuji (That one cosplayer) beat up that one guy within the real world. Our world views CSM as fictional thus Yuji has an R>F level above CSM and is thus 1-A. Yuji has also appeared in both Marvel and DC thus giving him their scaling as well.

Fujimoto stated he's attracted to dominant women such as Power and Makima. Denji is multiple oneshot tiers above Power. Devils in CSM are amped by emotions, and attraction/love is the strongest emotion.

This means, Fiction < Reality <= Yuji <= Fujimoto < Fujimoto's feeling for women like Power << Power herself <<< Denji << Denji (Fear Boost) << Denji (Love Boost)
That puts Denji comfortably above Tier 0 if we want to be conservative

LaserPrecision · Thursday at 04:47

MochOath said:
Fujimoto stated he's attracted to dominant women such as Power and Makima. Denji is multiple oneshot tiers above Power. Devils in CSM are amped by emotions, and attraction/love is the strongest emotion.

This means, Fiction < Reality <= Yuji <= Fujimoto < Fujimoto's feeling for women like Power << Power herself <<< Denji << Denji (Fear Boost) << Denji (Love Boost)
That puts Denji comfortably above Tier 0 if we want to be conservative

You never established why Fujimoto would be > Yuji or be anywhere near him in the scaling chain

MochOath · Thursday at 07:17

LaserPrecision said:
You never established why Fujimoto would be > Yuji or be anywhere near him in the scaling chain

Gege is Yuji's greatest opponent and regularly torments him

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Fujimoto showed relativity, and arguably superiority, to Gege in their battle

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Therefore: Yuji <= Gege <= Fujimoto

LaserPrecision · Thursday at 07:20

MochOath said:
Therefore: Yuji <= Gege <= Fujimoto

Idk, that last scan seems like a Gege upscale. Fujimoto created a bigger uproar in one ending than Gege did in two, making him worse. Not only that, but Yuji beats Gege at the end of JJK. So it'd go Yuji > Gege > Fujimoto tbh.

AyOgUyS · Thursday at 13:20

I've never seen more accurate power scaling in my whole life.

Thunderman101 · Thursday at 13:44

just like toji tanked hollow purple

ShionAH said:
Yuji slams, he scales to Yuta who tanked world cutting slash giving them High 3-A stats

Alexander · Thursday at 13:55

Seriosly, couldn't Pochita just cut Yuji's head off and that's it?

Zabazab · Thursday at 14:03

Beheading typically causes death, that's true.

Thunderman101 · Thursday at 14:04

Zabazab said:
Beheading typically causes death, that's true.

no

Zabazab · Thursday at 14:10

Sorry for spreading misinfo then

ShionAH · Thursday at 14:53

I would survive decapitation if I got 8 hrs of sleep

MochOath · Friday at 20:13

LaserPrecision said:
Idk, that last scan seems like a Gege upscale. Fujimoto created a bigger uproar in one ending than Gege did in two, making him worse.

Its the opposite.
As Sun Tzu famously said, "There's no such thing as bad publicity." This means Fujimoto causing a greater emotional impact on the audience with half the number of endings puts him as at least twice as powerful as Gege.

LaserPrecision said:
Yuji beats Gege at the end of JJK.

Scans?

Yuji is still subordinate to Gege till the end of JJK modulo and actually works under him.
Yuji even admits inferiority to Gege and states it took him going all out and "running full speed with no sleep" to keep up with Gege's casual movements

Arceus0x · Friday at 20:38

What if in the end Gojo wins

MochOath · Friday at 22:10

Arceus0x said:
What if in the end Gojo wins

counted

Sooshirohl · Saturday at 02:28

goku FRB

MochOath · Saturday at 03:38

Sooshirohl said:
goku FRB

counted

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