Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

[Nonynho]

What an oddly specific first forum post

 

[Voidsaint5757]

Because he's mid.

What's so special about Joshua?

 

[Lou_change]

Is the Frog from League of Legends a smurf?

 

[AlexSamDen]

Is the Frog from League of Legends a smurf?

Doesn't seem to be

 

[Lou_change]

I nominate it for one of the open slots in 10-C it can probably serve as a decent place holder.

 

[Dragonite007]

Is the Frog from League of Legends a smurf?

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Ah the crt was accepted, he can TP tens of kilometers now

EDIT: crt location

Major Kamen Rider Kuuga and N-Daguva-Zeba Additions & Translation Status Declaration

Not really a Self Explanatory CRT anymore, these are the changes to these two profiles. (I changed it 6 hours from now) Linking the Kuuga and Daguva Profiles with changes here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Omazio2019/Den-O Additions Bio Resistance For Kuuga Biological Manipulation...

vsbattles.com

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Characters from Honkai Star Rail for 2-A. While I don't think they'll beat Supernatural, I do think they could potentially get past Discord

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Josh is higher than Gu Chensha on High 1-A, Josh is High 1-A+.

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[Nonynho]

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just to be sure:
Can Liz be twice in the list? She is atm

 

[Dragonite007]

just to be sure:
Can Liz be twice in the list? She is atm

Yes, but 9-B is full

 

[Voidsaint5757]

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Will the change be made without discussion and without explanation?

 

[Dragonite007]

Will the change be made without discussion and without explanation?

One is High 1-A and the other is High 1-A+, there's not much to discuss

 

[Voidsaint5757]

One is High 1-A and the other is High 1-A+, there's not much to discuss

I want to know why it's categorized as +

 

[DaReaperMan]

I want to know why it's categorized as +

Look up the guy and click on CRTs. Otherwise it's derailing.

 

[Voidsaint5757]

Look up the guy and click on CRTs. Otherwise it's derailing.

Okay

 

[HakutoRei000]

Apparently The Adventurer got a lil upgrade here and there, can he potentially be a little higher on the list?.

 

[Nonynho]

Yes, but 9-B is full

No, i mean she's twice in the 9-A category

 

[Dragonite007]

No, i mean she's twice in the 9-A category

nop

 

[First_Witch]

nop

She is, actually.

 

[Mizuki67]

A spot in low 1c

 

[Nonynho]

nop

then please remove her from the 5th position besides Isaac :>

 

[Dragonite007]

then please remove her from the 5th position besides Isaac :>

She is, actually.

fixed

 

[Mizuki67]

A spot in low 1c

A spot above the player

 

[HakutoRei000]

6. Characters from Pokemon (Yveltal and Victini)

I checked their profile and their tier is now 3-A shouldn't they be removed?

 

[Planck69]

I'm removing Characters from God of War from Low 1-C, they're 1-C now.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I'm removing Characters from God of War from Low 1-C, they're 1-C now.

Ayy, I completely missed that! 6-D, right? Congrats!

I believe the top dogs can be placed back alongside the same slot as Game Sonic top tiers, as they have notoriously and repeatedly incon'd more than once (and like, over a year apart iirc).

 

[Bobsican]

I checked their profile and their tier is now 3-A shouldn't they be removed?

They should, yeah

 

[Planck69]

Ayy, I completely missed that! 6-D, right? Congrats!

I believe the top dogs can be placed back alongside the same slot as Game Sonic top tiers, as they have notoriously and repeatedly incon'd more than once (and like, over a year apart iirc).

I think that's fine, yeah.

 

[Dragonite007]

I checked their profile and their tier is now 3-A shouldn't they be removed?

removed

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I nominate her for L2-C
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lutria
It was accepted here

 

[Minaaaa]

Are arpe & maetel smurfs cuz they have uni+ range?

 

[Dragonite007]

Are arpe & maetel smurfs cuz they have uni+ range?

If they are High 3-A or below, yes;

If they are Low 2-C or above, no.

 

[Minaaaa]

If they are High 3-A or below, yes;

If they are Low 2-C or above, no.

In 8A it says they have uni+ range

 

[Rikimarox2]

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but I assume you mean you agree with Neo taking the spot, since he can act independently from his body? I'm not certain if there are any feats of him being technically incapped and being able to do something (mainly because, there are legit no incap for him lmao. His entire body could be screwed (including brain) and he could still do stuff). I do however, recall him just discarding his body and doing shit as spirit/soul, as that is very common.

Furthermore, I would assume his own aura would do some stuff here, since it is powernull, but eh.

Bump on this. Neo Hargraves should take the third spot in 5-B, as agreed here and like, the 2-3 messages after.

 

[Dragonite007]

Bump on this. Neo Hargraves should take the third spot in 5-B, as agreed here and like, the 2-3 messages after.

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In 8A it says they have uni+ range

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I nominate her for L2-C
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lutria
It was accepted here

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[Mizuki67]

Im crying, why is mundus in 2-C? Did DMC fans lowkey forgot bro existence?

 

[Dragonite007]

Im crying, why is mundus in 2-C? Did DMC fans lowkey forgot bro existence?

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[Minaaaa]

Bump on this. Neo Hargraves should take the third spot in 5-B, as agreed here and like, the 2-3 messages after.

Speaking of neo, what does he do in 9-B

 

[Deonment]

Speaking of neo, what does he do in 9-B

He's already in 9-B though, right below subaru rn
Though I'm somewhat unsure abt that placement, but eh

 

[Deonment]

Hmm, since we currently don't treat "insignificant" dimensions as smurfery...
Scion and Tohu for High 6-A, and like, I'm genuinely confident they can take up to 6th but can't bypass the invul (unless it doesn't block the EE or Stilling)
Meng Qi (who really should be higher), Administrators and Jimmy all do not resist Stilling or an All or Nothing from Tohu, with them also being well and unable to kill scion in any way that matters as they can't reach the Warrior Entity (and if they do, they die anyway)
The beast does actually have a resistance to Stilling (kinda, but I'm not willing to argue it), can't kill scion though, but does die to Tohu who has a genuine million and one ways to kill him, thanks to being a nigh verse composite, such as yeeting him to another dimension, going to another dimension itself and making a bomb that stops him in time forever, or just hitting him with an all or nothing like one of the space explosions, but what is fact is that Tohu is not playing fair, and is not staying close.
Byleth dies to Stilling or Tohu ad nauseum until she can't rewind time anymore
Rafaam runs into the issue of Endbringers Trumping Trumps (name for people who **** with powers in verse) which includes those who copy or steal powers, and Scion is much much worse in that regard, and even if he could, he either runs into one of the best precogs on the wiki triggering, resulting in Scion popping his avatar body to dodge the first attempt to then reform the body behind Rafaam and Doctor Manhattan him, or the WE cuts off the power, and spawns in a new avatar that does the afformentioned Doctor Manhattanning. Or Scion just using stilling to null it, lmao
Adam runs into the issue of both of the characters not caring. Tohu just literally not having a mind or soul and resisting power null before blasting him (though ig there's an argument based on what exactly Tabris' field negated, but that doesn't really matter here), and Scion having a decent argument for not having such a mind or soul, and even if he did, the avatar would not be where it was located, and even if the avatar itself had such a thing, Scion would just come back and blast him with stilling.
Aisha runs into the issue of not actually having her eyes in this key, instantly triggering PtV, and getting blasted with stilling before she can attempt to pull up anti magic
Willverse simply just has the issue of invul here, otherwise I'm pretty confident in their loss, so they get stopped there

 

[Lou_change]

Aren't actual shards 4d in parahumans?

 

[Planck69]

Aren't actual shards 4d in parahumans?

They are, but since their extent is unknown, they're technically not Tier 2 in scale.

Now it all depends on Dragonite, since they're also not compact.