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cuz it's not directly meant for AX also we got Ben 10 in fornite lolBen 10 has concept manipulation? I dont see it on Alien X profile
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Info is countered by layered conceptual existence so that's not a factor iirc
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Bro how tf AE can be layered
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it isn't brother stop accepting that
idk same way NEP can I guess
also how did tensura get NEP2?
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For God only recently. Pretty sure only he has that
Otherwise it's same NEP for others like dmc bros, except they have info aspect too
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Idk what was Argument against Info from dmc bros here. But assuming DMC has resistance to CM1 45 layers(Ig you meant this by layered existence?) They can pretty much resist 7-8 layers of CM1 from Tensura characters but well information from Tensura capable affecting Concepts so it is basically getting info diffed.
Now pull some wank for info T2 in future CRTs
Now pull some wank for info T2 in future CRTs
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How long before someone again tries Anos vs Rimuru, you know someone will do it for the 13th time...
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Imagine trying to argue against Logic HaxHow long before someone again tries Anos vs Rimuru, you know someone will do it for the 13th time...
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How long before someone again tries Anos vs Rimuru, you know someone will do it for the 13th time...
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I mean even if Rimuru or any character wins against Anos, Anos can just lol nope and change the Logic such that losing is winning.
He can actually be No.1 even by losing Logically.
Logic Hax ftw bozos.
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I mean, they can't really do anything about Chaos. DMC has more layers than GoW tho.
Tanin_iver
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AoE BFR, Power Null, Seal should do the trick
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My core argument is GoW having information. Dmc has more layers for CM1 aspect true. But GoW info can interact with CM1 which DMC bros can't resist(Basically they can't resist information effect). With same arguments and reason I am putting Tensura above dmc.
Idk how Tensura and GoW verse would go since GoW has more layers but both verse has NEP 2
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We had this discussion a couple of pages back.
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about their AE being above CM1?
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Kinda, about Souls being above CM1 and
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Soul are true forms of demons with the Names(CM1) just being "closer to their true substance" than their physical bodies, and they can easily survive without their Names.
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DMC has a ton of passive stuff. If tensura chars can survive getting hit with all that and act as pure info then sure getting info diffed may be possible altought idk how over 40 layers of concept shit will interact with info > concept stuff
If they get past that then there is this little shit that has a ton of layers too but the first thing it does is to **** off to an infinite amount of universes away and nuke your reality from there. Can tensura survive chars getting their whole multiverse nuked?
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pretty sure multiverse nuking in dmc doesn't evolve nuking NEP information, AE for Information, NEP 2
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Doesn't Tensura have the same thing?
Souls in DMC are superior to type 1 concepts
both verses have equal superiority over concepts except Tensura has both info 2 and cm 1 so Tensura information can nuke the soul
Also DMC can't interact with Tensura characters because of abstract existence (info type 2)
Information in Tensura are superior to type 1 concepts
Souls in DMC are superior to type 1 concepts
both verses have equal superiority over concepts except Tensura has both info 2 and cm 1 so Tensura information can nuke the soul
Also DMC can't interact with Tensura characters because of abstract existence (info type 2)
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Nuking reality is nuking reality. Unless they got feats of surviving that shit they ain't making it out.
Lemme look for the threads that talk about it.
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Information particles have BDE type 1 so reality nuke probably won't affect them
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Why tf we are not putting DMC above GoW if this case?
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Because DMC cosmology nuke is not working on Chaos
Also Hellfilth's cosmology nuke is weird coz you can see regular humans like Lady survive it
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You need feats of being able to do stuff after having your reality nuked
Nuking your plane of reality means you are defeated (obviously counts for type 2 given what the thread is about)
NEP like everything else is tied to their dimensions (I lost the link lul :'v)
is was faster than Hellfilth and thus would get hit with hax before Hellfilth ****** off to another reality, like we talked about it around 8 pages ago
Nuking your plane of reality means you are defeated (obviously counts for type 2 given what the thread is about)
NEP like everything else is tied to their dimensions (I lost the link lul :'v)
idk, I haven't seen anything about BDE letting you survive cosmology nuke or even talk about which is weird, besides it will run into the same problem as NEP of needing feats of acting after getting your reality nuked
No? It was because Chaos
DMC had MFTL+ at that point. They were getting blitzed by GoW.
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and i wonder why tho
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Anyways, Hellfilth will probably end up with immeasurable speed too and only PoC characters scale to him/her/it anyways.
Regular DMC can only keep up because layers but with immeasurable speed hellfilth just dodges the passives and ***** off and only Dante has feats of surviving reality nuke.
If anything Hellfilth will be above both GoW and DMC if/when the thing gets updated.
Regular DMC can only keep up because layers but with immeasurable speed hellfilth just dodges the passives and ***** off and only Dante has feats of surviving reality nuke.
If anything Hellfilth will be above both GoW and DMC if/when the thing gets updated.
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Hellfilth's reality nuke is based on collapsing spacetime so BDE 1 is a perfect counter to this
Also why would Hellfilth's reality nuke work on Chaos NEP 2 in the first place? Assuming speed is not part of this convo
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Not if said NEP is also on Aspect 5: Space-time, or if the character has BDE1.
Source
So slime should be above DMC
- Why would we even assume he can can cosmology nuke tensura if they can't interact with info particles (information)? Like, info particles make up reality at the core, if you can't destroy or interact with that, you ain't nuking anything.
- The post you linked from DT talks about how a 3D being can't survive a cosmology nuke since they won't have anywhere to move in or take acti, effectively "incapacitating" them. And that is correct, but that doesn't work on BDE1 since BDE1 is literally about lacking space-time and dimensions?
So they can still very much act.
Plus DMC cannot nuke the Cosmology for another reason; Underworld, which itself is NEP on all the aspects listed above so....
Well, if it still wasn't clear enough, we can always make a thread ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Yeah but here's the kicker; DMC still holds superiority in CM so their haxs will effect regardless what Tensure have especially with all those layers out there. Meanwhile, Tensura also have superiority in regards to info manip on equal scale so it's anybody's game, really
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I'm actually gonna murder you for this someday
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I thought you were going to give me the thread that talks about it lol
The NEP page is clear, if reality is nuked they are effectively "defeated" unless they have feats of still display some existent properties on a different plane of existence.
Because you are destroying the whole thing. That's how Aliex-X got away with having history, info2, concept and other stuff for being able to nuke reality. Destroy reality and all in it goes too. It doesn't give you individual abilities obviously.
As for BDE, idk I haven't looked at any thread that talks about it. I would assume it is under the same rules as NEP of necessitating something to "display" some existing property or feats.
eehhh 50/50 here, dunno what would happen
It still doesn't help that Hellfilth is an infinite amount of L1C universes away
I mean sure why not
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Well, it doesn't automatically mean DMC's concept and Tensura's information scale to each other. Atleast, that's what understood from this page hence we have to give both aspects the benefit of the doubt here.
How? Both verses have superiority over CM
DMC soul > type 1 concept
Tensura information > type 1 concept
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GoW doesn't have information being superior to type 1 concepts but Tensura does + also having cm 1 in the verse that's the difference
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That CM1 means nothing if it is below the specified information unless the concept in question scales to information themselves apparently
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Again, it is a topic that depends on interpretation and not something that have definitive answer to it. Even assume having CM1 on the same scale as DMC's souls themselves, you have to deal with the layers too on top of it so information is really your only bread and butter here
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BTW where is the sealing hax for hellfilth? She literally seals the timeline to prevent Dante and Vergil from escaping, why didn't you add that?
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