My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[Yunoo]

No necesita tener una aplicación listada, pero puede tenerla y técnicamente la tiene

SShigaraki physically had to withstand the recoil and energy of his own Decay in the Redestro Arc in order to use it. That's why I'd say he physically scales with Decay.

 

[Mommyleona]

Also no dura neg attacks can have ap bruh what is this?

 

[JoeDM021]

SShigaraki physically had to withstand the recoil and energy of his own Decay in the Redestro Arc in order to use it. That's why I'd say he physically scales with Decay.

ig theres also that if we wanna go the

Shiggy can resist his own decay making himself scale to it

Deku can harm shiggy therefore he scales to decay ig

 

[Mommyleona]

never said its 100% ap gng im saying it can be both dura neg and have ap

It literally cannot

 

[JoeDM021]

It literally cannot

I mean im waiting for you to pull up a page saying it cant

 

[Mommyleona]

I mean im waiting for you to pull up a page saying it cant

Durability Negation

The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of their durability. In particular, it enables causing serious damage to an opponent, even with the user's lack of comparable or greater attack potency. A good example of ignoring durability would be poison, as it can kill a person...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[JoeDM021]

Durability Negation

The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of their durability. In particular, it enables causing serious damage to an opponent, even with the user's lack of comparable or greater attack potency. A good example of ignoring durability would be poison, as it can kill a person...

vsbattles.fandom.com

listing the dura neg page that doesnt prove anything i guess this would be hard proof if it was smth like poison but its not

 

[57Dev]

It's matter deconstruction. It can rust metal and crumble soil into particles.

What part about that has any AP again

 

[JoeDM021]

It's matter deconstruction. It can rust metal and crumble soil into particles.

What part about that has any AP again

"lets take the shigaraki decaying the city scene for example he arguably atomically decays the city due to how decay works (Whether he actually did it atomically is up for debate due to how decay works but thats a different scene) in this case we take the portion of the city he decayed and use atomic destruction to get the joule output for this attack"

 

[Kaydee1648]

in this case we take the portion of the city he decayed and use atomic destruction to get the joule output for this attack

This isn’t possible. Decay doesn’t deconstruct objects by exerting so much force that it forces the object to break down. It’s deconstruction due to its nature, as it allows shiggy to break down matter without needing to apply force.

 

[JoeDM021]

This isn’t possible. Decay doesn’t deconstruct objects by exerting so much force that it forces the object to break down. It’s deconstruction due to its nature, as it allows shiggy to break down matter without needing to apply force.

in this case it still would have joule output since hes still technically destroying something that would have some form of joule output dura neg or not

 

[Kellex]

I think if we were to take the game statement seriously, it'd be only possibly 5-B enviormental destruction or planetary range, but Shigaraki himself wouldn't scale to decay physically cause it's still duraneg.

Also this:

So you're saying decay is potency based.... therefore if you have a higher tier you can just resist/ignore decay... nuke half of Shigaraki match ups

 

[JoeDM021]

its up to interpretation but i generally think he should scale to it since he can resist his own decay but thats a discussion for another day so imma dip for now

 

[Mommyleona]

listing the dura neg page that doesnt prove anything i guess this would be hard proof if it was smth like poison but its not

What part of NEGATING durability do you not understand

 

[MannyQ361]

 

[1000TonsofFun]

The word on the streets is that More is peak.

Edit: here’s the staff list for those curious

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Cringe, brawl stars

 

[Yunoo]

Creo que si tomáramos en serio la declaración del juego, posiblemente solo sería destrucción ambiental 5-B o alcance planetario, pero el propio Shigaraki no escalaría hasta decaer físicamente porque todavía es duraneg.

De asemenea asta:

SShigaraki physically scales up from Decay because he has to physically resist its recoil to use it. That alone generates energy levels that he must manually produce, resist, and physically scale up.

 

[DemonicDude]

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[Anonymous_Learner]

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

It’s almost like people didn’t pay attention when Deku said his raw strength surpassed All Might and Shigaraki said he has Prime All Might level physicals

 

[JoeDM021]

The statements saying quirkless shigaraki is PAM level and deku legit blitzing and putting a giant hole through his chest:

 

[DemonicDude]

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[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Shigaraki is portrayed as an undamageable monster whenever anyone not Deku fights him and he’s described as durable as Prime All Might, then Deku proceeds to make his physicals look utterly useless while he is blowing off his body parts and it looks like Shigaraki only lives because of regeneration

A bloodlusted Deku legit treats Prime All Might the way Thragg treated Thaedus

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

True, just people can't handle the objective fact that 100% deku slams prime might due to their bias towards him and difference in portray...despite the fact deku has shown and stated to be on par with him

 

[1000TonsofFun]

I think it’s because we get told so much that All Might is the strongest and how no one can even come close to him at the beginning of the story. That and his presentation (or aura if you will) make him feel stronger than Deku. But that’s the point. All Might never had to face someone as strong as Shigaraki. The society he created viewed him as a fearless idol. But deep down, he wasn’t much different than Deku. The big difference was that All Might caused a society that relied too much on heroism that ended up creating someone as strong as Shigaraki. Deku vs Shigaraki is a much closer fight than most if not all of All Might’s (definitely the publicised ones) and it’s made even worse by the fact that Deku took the harder path of saving Tenko. This creates an image of weakness around him, along with his smaller frame and crybaby nature (not insulting him, I like that he wears his emotions on his sleeves) that makes the viewer and the civilians want to help him. He’s stronger than All Might yet he seems weaker. And that weakness is what allowed him to become the world’s greatest hero, by allowing himself to be helped, by proving that anyone can be a hero as long as they reach out and take the thorniest, but most righteous, path.

 

[JoeDM021]

I think it’s because we get told so much that All Might is the strongest and how no one can even come close to him at the beginning of the story. That and his presentation (or aura if you will) make him feel stronger than Deku. But that’s the point. All Might never had to face someone as strong as Shigaraki. The society he created viewed him as a fearless idol. But deep down, he wasn’t much different than Deku. The big difference was that All Might caused a society that relied too much on heroism that ended up creating someone as strong as Shigaraki. Deku vs Shigaraki is a much closer fight than most if not all of All Might’s (definitely the publicised ones) and it’s made even worse by the fact that Deku took the harder path of saving Tenko. This creates an image of weakness around him, along with his smaller frame and crybaby nature (not insulting him, I like that he wears his emotions on his sleeves) that makes the viewer and the civilians want to help him. He’s stronger than All Might yet he seems weaker. And that weakness is what allowed him to become the world’s greatest hero, by allowing himself to be helped, by proving that anyone can be a hero as long as they reach out and take the thorniest, but most righteous, path.

and the thing is deku could've destroyed shigaraki if he didn't want to save tenko if he deemed him to much of a threat he had the power to end it nigh instantly if he went full power and all out on 1 attack with a plus ultra amp that could obliterate shigaraki

But he didn't

Thats what I like about deku's character is that instead of the generic "Hero defeats the big bad in a final epic battle" the hero in this instance actually wants to save the big bad and even though the hero in this case is stronger or even arguably MUCH stronger then the big bad they hold back in order to save them

I generally think deku's character was inspired by heroes like spiderman or superman except he's willing to kill if necessary

 

[Yunoo]

I think it’s because we get told so much that All Might is the strongest and how no one can even come close to him at the beginning of the story. That and his presentation (or aura if you will) make him feel stronger than Deku. But that’s the point. All Might never had to face someone as strong as Shigaraki. The society he created viewed him as a fearless idol. But deep down, he wasn’t much different than Deku. The big difference was that All Might caused a society that relied too much on heroism that ended up creating someone as strong as Shigaraki. Deku vs Shigaraki is a much closer fight than most if not all of All Might’s (definitely the publicised ones) and it’s made even worse by the fact that Deku took the harder path of saving Tenko. This creates an image of weakness around him, along with his smaller frame and crybaby nature (not insulting him, I like that he wears his emotions on his sleeves) that makes the viewer and the civilians want to help him. He’s stronger than All Might yet he seems weaker. And that weakness is what allowed him to become the world’s greatest hero, by allowing himself to be helped, by proving that anyone can be a hero as long as they reach out and take the thorniest, but most righteous, path.

But there's literally a scan saying that Deku surpasses All Might Here

 

[1000TonsofFun]

But there's literally a scan saying that Deku surpasses All Might Here

I know. I’m not saying that Deku is weaker, or that All Might is the top tier of the verse. I’m saying that Deku feels weaker due to his actual character, as All Might hid his fear and emotions for year behind an image of an unyielding symbol of peace. Deku shows his fear and his weakness more easily which gives him a different aura. Despite being the strongest in the verse, he fights stronger enemies and takes a harder and longer, but ultimately more righteous, path that makes him feel like he could be beaten any moment. Add to that the fact that his final fight is with a version of him that definitively IS weaker than Prime All Might, and you have the recipe for why many see him as weak. And some of it is people still stuck in the early days of the story too.

 

[Yunoo]

One question: How can I create a discussion thread or section? I would like to encompass ALL Planetary Declarations of mha, using Anime, Manga, Game, Databooks, Covers, etc. And see if the staff can at least consider or emphasize whether this scaling is acceptable for the characters (at least for Deku, Shigaraki, PAM, and AFO).

Or can only Administrators do this?

 

[JoeDM021]

One question: How can I create a discussion thread or section? I would like to encompass ALL Planetary Declarations of mha, using Anime, Manga, Game, Databooks, Covers, etc. And see if the staff can at least consider or emphasize whether this scaling is acceptable for the characters (at least for Deku, Shigaraki, PAM, and AFO).

Or can only Administrators do this?

Anyone can do it

Go to the home page of the vsbw forums then click on post thread in the top right corner and select content revision which should be at the top of the selection

Then boom you should be able to make one

 

[SuperStar]

 

[Nierre]

Jirou fanart .... so peak...

 

[1000TonsofFun]

Jirou fanart .... so peak...

That’s not fanart bro. That’s Horikoshi

 

[1000TonsofFun]

and the thing is deku could've destroyed shigaraki if he didn't want to save tenko if he deemed him to much of a threat he had the power to end it nigh instantly if he went full power and all out on 1 attack with a plus ultra amp that could obliterate shigaraki

But he didn't

Thats what I like about deku's character is that instead of the generic "Hero defeats the big bad in a final epic battle" the hero in this instance actually wants to save the big bad and even though the hero in this case is stronger or even arguably MUCH stronger then the big bad they hold back in order to save them

I generally think deku's character was inspired by heroes like spiderman or superman except he's willing to kill if necessary

Fully agree, although I’m pretty sure Superman does kill if forced to. He just generally doesn’t. I think it’s the same for Spidey, it’s not like Batman who has a code against it.

 

[ArgentDragonPluto]

BTW, in the anime, Lady Nagant and others could see Bakugou's explosion from the hospital. Do we have a calculation for that, or a way to calculate large explosions from far away? Like, dozens of km if not hundreds of km. Is angsizing or something like that applicable?

 

[1000TonsofFun]

BTW, in the anime, Lady Nagant and others could see Bakugou's explosion from the hospital. Do we have a calculation for that, or a way to calculate large explosions from far away? Like, dozens of km if not hundreds of km. Is angsizing or something like that applicable?

That scene is considered a contradiction to the manga cos the visuals don’t match the ones we are given in the manga

 

[JoeDM021]

BTW, in the anime, Lady Nagant and others could see Bakugou's explosion from the hospital. Do we have a calculation for that, or a way to calculate large explosions from far away? Like, dozens of km if not hundreds of km. Is angsizing or something like that applicable?

one of my friends calculated that one and i think it got into the mountain or island ranges ion remember

 

[ArgentDragonPluto]

That scene is considered a contradiction to the manga cos the visuals don’t match the ones we are given in the manga

I don't particularly care about that, mostly interested in the calc itself.

one of my friends calculated that one and i think it got into the mountain or island ranges ion remember

Do you have it?

 

[JoeDM021]

Do you have it?

i vaguely remember it and i kinda forgot which friend it was so im prob not gonna be able to find it but if u ever calc it yourself im js assuming its prob around that range