- 892
- 145
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD
- Thread starter ZillertheBucko
- Start date
- 892
- 145
Anyway, since people arent going to see this I belive i have found a way to quantify light in dark world as universal system and such instead use the coletive unconcius I will use psychic energy of the soul/spirit
"Kokoro implies one’s intellectual responses, or, in other situations, implies one’s emotional reactions, and in many cases, it connotes inclusively the mental, emotional and spiritual states of all sentient beings."
"Since it is an intangible and elusive word, it is difficult to analyze its meaning and define even in the Japanese language, thus, making it even more problematic to translate into English or other languages. In books on Japanese aesthetics, philosophy, literature, and architecture which are written in English, words such as ‘mind,’ ‘heart,’ ‘feelings,’ ‘soul,’ and ‘spirit,’ are applied in order to introduce the concept of kokoro, but these translations leave much to be desired"
japanhouse.illinois.edu
"Kokoro implies one’s intellectual responses, or, in other situations, implies one’s emotional reactions, and in many cases, it connotes inclusively the mental, emotional and spiritual states of all sentient beings."
"Since it is an intangible and elusive word, it is difficult to analyze its meaning and define even in the Japanese language, thus, making it even more problematic to translate into English or other languages. In books on Japanese aesthetics, philosophy, literature, and architecture which are written in English, words such as ‘mind,’ ‘heart,’ ‘feelings,’ ‘soul,’ and ‘spirit,’ are applied in order to introduce the concept of kokoro, but these translations leave much to be desired"
What is Kokoro?
The word kokoro has been widely used for written texts as well as verbal communication in Japan since ancient times. There are many idioms and expressions using the word, kokoro and the Japanese use it frequently and freely. Before introducing kokoro related Japanese idioms and expressions, it is…
japanhouse.illinois.edu
- 892
- 145
Soo everytime the soul graze the enemys bullet pattern they gain tp (tension points) but what it means ? Well what if you are absorving the energy from the enemy attack ? Yes i am saying tension points you get from the battles are some form of energy absortion where you use to get your spellsAnyway, since people arent going to see this I belive i have found a way to quantify light in dark world as universal system and such instead use the coletive unconcius I will use psychic energy of the soul/spirit
"Kokoro implies one’s intellectual responses, or, in other situations, implies one’s emotional reactions, and in many cases, it connotes inclusively the mental, emotional and spiritual states of all sentient beings."
"Since it is an intangible and elusive word, it is difficult to analyze its meaning and define even in the Japanese language, thus, making it even more problematic to translate into English or other languages. In books on Japanese aesthetics, philosophy, literature, and architecture which are written in English, words such as ‘mind,’ ‘heart,’ ‘feelings,’ ‘soul,’ and ‘spirit,’ are applied in order to introduce the concept of kokoro, but these translations leave much to be desired"
What is Kokoro?
The word kokoro has been widely used for written texts as well as verbal communication in Japan since ancient times. There are many idioms and expressions using the word, kokoro and the Japanese use it frequently and freely. Before introducing kokoro related Japanese idioms and expressions, it is…
Let Call it courage or brave energy since both come from the emotions and contact.
- 892
- 145
Where everyone?
LittleGuy99
He/Him- 1,271
- 1,015
A lot of Echidna posting to digest
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
The calc for sans' range with his Gaster Blasters still uses the old soul size. It could probably use a recalc.
Axorandom0
He/Him- 1,057
- 482
I’ll try my hand at it
Axorandom0
He/Him- 1,057
- 482
EnderLord8
Any/All- 4,316
- 1,683
Great, the range went to hell.
Eden_Warlock99
She/Her- 13,642
- 6,689
116 METERS PER SECOND! THAT'S FASTER THAN A CHEETAH
- 1,796
- 864
I think you should use the act button size insted of the dialogue box
btw, I should be able to be back by Saturday
Qurbonboev
He/Him- 2,756
- 1,645
Size measurements did get a little bit of upgrade.
Also, I think there are instances where Blaster is further, thus it covers more distance
Axorandom0
He/Him- 1,057
- 482
Doesn’t that still need a vote?
- 892
- 145
Tension is energy in deltarune
Tension in deltarune seems to be a form of energy that exist both as physical and mental And as such should receive something from it The soul Absorve energy from the bullet through thier own field, whem hit by enemy the soul is incapable to absorve enegry from thier enemy through thier field...
Kellex
He/Him- 1,505
- 1,142
I think there might be better examples cause I went and did a calc on a different gaster blaster, and got a better result somewhat.
Assuming the action buttons are indeed 100cm/1 meter and measuring the diagonal gaster blaster from the start instead, the range is about 5.1m and it's speed is 153 m/s (Subsonic)
This is my first calc on this forum like, ever. So let me know if there's anything wrong with it LOL.
Last edited:
- 892
- 145
I am going to be evil and make crt about how gaster blaster is indeed a blaster.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
You could assume the soul moves at human level speeds (5 m/s) and compare that to the blaster to get a higher end (This could also be done with that Asgore calc too). This is arguably better, since it doesn't rely on size values that could be changed at random.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
Technically, they're only called gaster blasters in the game files and the only time that attack has ever been named in anything "official" was a pin by Fangamer, where it was just called "Blaster". So, blaster might actually be the more accurate term to use when describing them by default.
- 892
- 145
Yeah i know, that why trying to make tension points in deltarune into actual energy.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
I think this could actually boost the attack speed to supersonic.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
Just made my first calc. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Moon_Crasher/Frisk_dodges_a_missile
GodlyCharmander
He/Him- 6,773
- 6,165
The math checks out, but I don't think we will accept magical missiles are being as fast as real ones.
- 892
- 145
Nha we accept it.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
They kind of just seem to be regular missiles. But honestly, the speed I used for them was more of a placeholder. I'm not really sure if there's a better value. Using the slowest (in reason) missiles would probably knock the calc down to around subsonic.
- 892
- 145
Why tho ? We kinda already have argument they functions as real missiles
- 1,796
- 864
Given the current situacion of the verse, anything is welcome
- 892
- 145
I think this first argument for the missles being real
- 1,644
- 1,308
Tbf, these ones at least seem to act somewhat realistically unlike every other f*ckiing projectile for some godforsaken reason
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
The image doesn't display (from my pov). I guess the first argument is nothing.
GodlyCharmander
He/Him- 6,773
- 6,165
I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news... So I won't. Good day!
- 892
- 145
Nha we have oficial art proving they are infact real missles
GodlyCharmander
He/Him- 6,773
- 6,165
The art in the cards aren't canon, they have never been canon, they will never be canon.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
The attacks are kind of always portrayed far more unrealistically in battle in comparison to the overworld. Such as Toriel's fireplace compared to her attacks in battle.
- 1,644
- 1,308
I’m gonna kill somebody
- 892
- 145
They are canon tho due being official material and the fact toby literally remove the "secret character from there" also the ******* retcon
Eden_Warlock99
She/Her- 13,642
- 6,689
- 892
- 145
Also i doing crt to prove they are infact real.
Moon_Crasher
He/Him- 351
- 116
That just means that they're official, that doesn't make them lore relevant.
- 892
- 145
It is lmaoI dunno
- 892
- 145
All secret character are swaped with a save point...meaning it canon and revalant to the lore because mysteryman and [redacted] are connected with...you know who
Similar threads
- Locked
