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General Godzilla Discussion
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GODZILLA CONQUERS THE MULTIVERSE!
From what I’ve read, this new series takes the King of the Monsters into the Marvel multiverse, where alternate realities reveal new versions of both familiar heroes and kaiju.
From what I’ve read, this new series takes the King of the Monsters into the Marvel multiverse, where alternate realities reveal new versions of both familiar heroes and kaiju.
EnderLord8
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They really want to give him the 1-A scale, right?
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TOAA vs GodzillaGODZILLA CONQUERS THE MULTIVERSE!
From what I’ve read, this new series takes the King of the Monsters into the Marvel multiverse, where alternate realities reveal new versions of both familiar heroes and kaiju.
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Not only that, they also want him to go up against and shake up all the Marvel characters. lol
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Your Marvel thread on that is still open, right? Depending on how the comics turn out, are you planning to revisit the topic?
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maybe, maybe not, Marvel is just kinda ass to scale, I mean, Marvel Goji has gone from High 6-C to Low 1-C and is now High 3-A again.
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Understandable.
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So, basically what everyone else has suggested is on point. 1954 and -1.0 are definitely musts, with Shin and 2014 also being great starts. I'd start with those, but if you feel like continuing, the early and late Showa series has some of the best ones. Amazon has a few on streaming, like Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster and Invasion of the Astro-Monster, both of which are good and contain some of the better (or at least more interesting) human plots. Actually the Showa series is underrated in that on rewatching them, the human plots though strange, are often compelling.
I can't recommend many Heisei movies, as I haven't watched them in a long time, but I remember Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla being fun, plus with the upcoming monsterverse film it has become more relevant. One thing to note is that the Heisei movies are more linear, with characters returning from previous films to star again in the same role. The Showa series does this too, but actors from previous movies will play completely different characters.
Oh, and if you watch Godzilla vs Hedorah make sure to take copious amounts of drugs.
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I think Nonynho might get a bit dizzy with so many recommendations, haha, but there have already been a lot of great suggestions here.
If I had to add my perspective, I’d personally start with the MonsterVerse movies. They’re easy to follow and don’t require any prior knowledge, which is really important. They’re a great way to quickly figure out whether Godzilla movies are your thing or not, whereas many Toho films can feel a bit slower or more niche.
Godzilla (1954) isn’t the best starting point if you prefer modern movies. Shin Godzilla is good in parts, but only if you don’t mind long stretches of political dialogue. Godzilla Minus One could be a great starting point, but since its sequel hasn’t been released yet, I’d recommend waiting and watching both together.
Godzilla Singular Point might not be ideal if you don’t enjoy hard science fiction. For the Kiryu Saga, you’d need to watch some earlier films to fully understand the last two entries. Godzilla: Final Wars is fun, but it has some unusual elements like The Matrix-style references and humans with super saiyan-like powers, so I wouldn’t recommend it as a starting point.
Also, the Showa era Godzilla films and Heisei era Godzilla films are best watched in order, so I wouldn’t recommend jumping into them randomly. The Millennium era films also generally require you to watch the 1954 film to fully understand them.
Nonynho
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Not at all, it became kind of a hobby to enter a verse with a bizillion amount of ways to experience and disentangle it to make sense lmao
I love science fiction, but SP, for me, was reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally boring
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Haha, I get that, it’s actually pretty satisfying once you start piecing everything together. Turning something that messy into something that makes sense can be weirdly fun.
Haha, so do you prefer media that’s mostly packed with action and explosions, or was it just something about SP’s pacing that didn’t click for you?
Nonynho
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200% the second option
I live sci-fi slow stuff (like Dune for example) but it reeeeeeeeally didn't work for me
Megaten saga was really fun for me to engage on that type of search
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I think they make plenty of sense on their own. Maybe not the best intro to Mothra, but if you watch the MV or the original before that then you’ll get her whole deal anyway.
It’s a very casual friendly film though imo and it introduces you to a lot of Godzilla’s expanded rogues gallery.
Heisei I agree but mainly for the Junior trilogy. The Showa films are all quite standalone so make for good watches without having seen the previous ones. But I think just watch those eras if you like the Monsterverse or Millenium stuff.
Yes, they should be watched after seeing the original. I’d argue that the original should be one of the first you watch as it’s one of the most influential monster movies ever and still probably the best film in the series.
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Yeah, that makes sense. It’s not even about slow vs fast, SP just has a very specific style and pacing that doesn’t click with everyone. Even if you like slower sci-fi like Dune, SP leans a lot more into dense exposition and abstract concepts, so it can feel harder to get into.
I see.
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh
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What’s the point of watching the Kiryu Saga if you’re just going to start with the last two films?
It’s definitely accessible and fun, but I don’t think it works well as an entry point for the GodzillaVerse.
I get what you mean about the Showa films being more standalone, but I’d still say they benefit a lot from context.
Even if the plots aren’t strictly continuous, there’s still a sense of progression, like how Godzilla’s role shifts from a destructive force to more of a protector, or how recurring monsters and concepts are introduced and built upon.
I get why you’d recommend starting with the original, especially given how influential it is. But I don’t think it’s the best first entry for everyone.
For someone used to modern filmmaking, Godzilla (1954) can feel quite slow-paced and dialogue-heavy compared to what they might expect from the series. If they go in looking for something closer to the action and spectacle of newer films, it might not hook them right away.
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I agree with you.
I was going to reply to you, but Ztes did it first, and I agree with his arguments.
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There’s only really 3 (at best 4) films. Other films are referenced but aren’t that relevant. Like, you don’t need to watch Dogora to understand anything that’s going on in that film.
Maybe one to check out after the MV though if you want to quickly see some of his expanded rogues
You only need to watch Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster to see that though. That has him transition from a villain to an antihero.
It depends what they’re into though. If they want big blockbuster action, Final Wars, Tokyo SOS or Monsterverse, if they want character drama with some good Monster stuff in between, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla or Minus One, if they want a film that comments on the political climate of the time, 1954 and Shin Godzilla.
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Although I have to admit I’ve tried to introduce people to the franchise for years and haven’t had much success, so Godzilla definitely isn’t for everyone.
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I can relate to that... Godzilla and the other kaiju don’t appear very often, so much of the runtime ends up focusing on human characters and dialogue.
Nonynho
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i just never knew where to start but to know that he was supposed to be just "big radioactive monster who wreck stuff" but he actually has got layers and multiple storylines per installment, and that always captivated me. I just gotta organize stuff and watch it lol
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just don't burn yourself out
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Have fun, I had a blast rewatching them and finding new ways to appreciate them.
Also, if you find yourself watching King Kong vs Godzilla, try to find the Japanese release version. I grew up with the American one and it of course still holds a special place for me, but the original version is better. There's the usual dubisms, but the American version is just plain less funny, and omits some humor to instead include news broadcasts from the United Nations detailing their thoughts. Also the American score is copy-pasted from The Creature from the Black Lagoon, while the Japanese version is the first film in the Godzilla franchise to feature his signature score.
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Honestly, the hardest part is just figuring out where to start. Once you pick a direction, it gets way easier to follow. Take it at your own pace and enjoy it
Nonynho
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i'll filter by the posts, confectionate an order and send here to see if some changes would be coolHonestly, the hardest part is just figuring out where to start. Once you pick a direction, it gets way easier to follow. Take it at your own pace and enjoy it
will be doing that soon, i'm finishing what should be my biggest project in this forum so far
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Has anyone done anything for the scaling in Super Robot Wars Y? I've heard that it has some impressive scaling but I haven't played the game yet
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At best, the Godzilla from that game would scale somewhere between Tier 3-A and Low 2-C, but there are already so many Godzillas on the wiki that you get what I mean.
Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh
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I think there was a page that was deleted in one of the many Godzilla purges, but I could be wrong
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This wasn’t the case, at least not for that specific SRW version of Godzilla.
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Currently watching Godzilla VS Kong. I found a scan in the intro that states that Godzilla's atomic breath can "ionise hydrogen isotopes, <out of frame text> plamsa". Which would be consistent with how Godzilla's atomic breath comes from nucleosynthetic glands in his throat. You can see the definition of 'ionise' here. I'm of the belief that Godzilla's atomic breath can destroy things on a either an atomic or subatomic level. If this is acceptable then this would upscale many feats, and in turn many Titans.
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Hey, nice to meet you. These past couple of years, new Godzilla fans have been appearing every week lol. By the way, I think the atomic or subatomic level thing was already rejected several times before by staff members, if I remember correctly.
Katipax
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I personally don't see why that'd be the case. Mind filling me in?
Side note: Always been a Godzilla fan, just joined this thread now because why not?
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I don’t really remember the exact details or arguments since those threads are pretty old, so I can’t give a precise breakdown of what was said at the time, sorry about that.
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Oh well, opinions can change
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Not to discourage you, but usually what gets rejected on this wiki is much less likely to be accepted later on.
Katipax
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I mean, DCEU Superman managed to get to Small Star then anything can happen
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If you say so.
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The new synopsis for godzilla conquers the multiverse prove that the marvel godzilla series is canon and takes place in the marvel universe 616 via offical kindle synopsis. However I don't know what this means for the thor vs godzilla comic
