Mikey vs Griffith

[Delusionaltx2]

neither of them talked about fear hax and literally jst said they'll debunk it. Nice one, u didn't read the thread

uhhh I did tho?

The main argument here started with "uwu mikey can fight 100 delinquents therefore he is comparable to people who fight 100 trained men with actual extremely leathal weapons"

Then, when people said no you just started shifting goal posts and argued mikey stat amps to win, which he can't really do because he's fighting a dude who ends the fight immediately either with SI or just piercing him

yeahhh I really think griffith should just take this one

 

[LostLightt]

how am i meant to be happy when all of the votes rely on a future possible argument mate, this might be the worst crt oat

 

[Delusionaltx2]

I think the femboy is Mikey not gonna lie
I remove my vote until chariot returns if that makes you happy

oh yeah right (he does sorta look like one)

Forgot chariot was gathering scans too, i'll retract my vote until then

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

how am i meant to be happy when all of the votes rely on a future possible argument mate, this might be the worst crt oat

Knowing that in your heart, Mickey stomps

 

[LostLightt]

The main argument here started with "uwu mikey can fight 100 delinquents therefore he is comparable to people who fight 100 trained men with actual extremely leathal weapons"

bahahha u proved u didn't read it.

Then, when people said no you just started shifting goal posts and argued mikey stat amps to win, which he can't really do because he's fighting a dude who ends the fight immediately either with SI or just piercing him

mikey's stat amp is instant and he's not going to be SI instantly, that might be the worst argument I heard, no offense atp I'm just annoyed

 

[Delusionaltx2]

how am i meant to be happy when all of the votes rely on a future possible argument mate, this might be the worst crt oat

dude like two people retracted their votes because it's a future possible argument...relax

 

[LostLightt]

dude like two people retracted their votes because it's a future possible argument...relax

yh then theres the other 5

I should relax ur right, relaxing now

 

[LostLightt]

I am now buddhist

 

[Chariot190]

With this treasure, I summon

That's the plan, few major scenes off the top of my head for slop is definitely that Zodd shit and honestly thinking on it, there's def a few supersonic and higher LS feats in Golden Age that can be looked at, ignoring the obvious Class M Zodd stuff but i have to actually read through golden age now to gather shit, I dont actually have any on hand so thats gon be a few days given me and 3 others working on a big project right so my time is a bit tight.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

f but i have to actually read

Why read when you can watch the film? Call your friends and do a party in your house as well while watching it

 

[Delusionaltx2]

bahahha u proved u didn't read it.

This you?

Mikey beat 550 people or sum without being tagged once. Is stated to be above 20,000 in a fight from himself.

they are delinquents who have several fights under their belts, some of them know martial arts but most just have fighting experience

mikey's stat amp is instant and he's not going to be SI instantly, that might be the worst argument I heard, no offense atp I'm just annoyed

His stat amps don't seem to help him against piercing nor is there anything suggesting he can just one shot a comparable opponent through armour

 

[LostLightt]

His stat amps don't seem to help him against piercing nor is there anything suggesting he can just one shot a comparable opponent through armour

He one shots and speed blitzes people after his amp... He's speed blitzing after it and getting several shots in before griffith gets one off

 

[Delusionaltx2]

He one shots and speed blitzes people after his amp...

where are the scans suggesting he can even do this to comparable enemies though?

He's speed blitzing after it and getting several shots in before griffith gets one off

Your basically arguing within the first like 2 seconds he instantly blitzes the f*** out of comparable enemies and one shots them

where's your evidence for that?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

He one shots and speed blitzes people after his amp... He's speed blitzing after it and getting several shots in before griffith gets one off

Ok, maybe is because you are new but here is the thing



The logic is that in this wiki, if your character in verse one shots a character, and for example, is because he got 1.5 times stronger

That is useless here, because in another verse, vegeta is one shotting guys with like a 1.2 times difference, in others one is doing it for being 4 times stronger

So in this fights, the one shot is based on one character being 7.5 or 8 times stronger, Mikey has "minimal" gains because his power is getting boosted but not like 2 to 3 times, and even if he got 3 times stronger, that is not one shotting

The durability negation is another thing to be fair, but Griffith has an armor

And even then, if this fight finish, Griffith still has his supernatural luck to not die vs a bloodlusted mikey who is gonna try to kill him, not to KO him, so the stomp would be for griffith and not be added to be fair

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Why do TR threads always go like this?...

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Why does shit like this always happen in TR threads?...

Tokyo revengers>>>> Slime isekai

 

[Mbpoops]

Man, pipes are not the same as lethal cross bolts, swords, and spears, all while everyone is also armored. The very fact Mikey can take one to the temple and still gave the top of his head is evidence enough of the discrepency.

The fact people were throwing ranged stuff in there too as Guts was fending everyone off is just extra.

Imagine if you would, Mikey vs 100 armed men, 50 have swords, 30 have spears, and 20 have guns.
Me and you both know Mikey isn't fighting all that off, while already pretty exhausted no less.

Now couple that in with all these having some semblance of actual training and constant life or death combat, it's not a comparable feat. Especially when a single screw up means death and not "ouch" or "knocked out".

Well now u know where that other mikey matchup is from lol

 

[LostLightt]

where are the scans suggesting he can even do this to comparable enemies though?

if u read mikeys profile you would see hes comp to hanma then one shots and speed blitzes him

Your basically arguing within the first like 2 seconds he instantly blitzes the f*** out of comparable enemies and one shots them

yh he does

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Tokyo revengers>>>> Slime isekai

They don't even get into the Cardinal world, but get insta-nuked by the world's passives.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I wonder why when we present arguments, TR guys always say we don't and we didn't debunk anything

 

[LostLightt]

Ok, maybe is because you are new but here is the thing



The logic is that in this wiki, if your character in verse one shots a character, and for example, is because he got 1.5 times stronger

That is useless here, because in another verse, vegeta is one shotting guys with like a 1.2 times difference, in others one is doing it for being 4 times stronger

So in this fights, the one shot is based on one character being 7.5 or 8 times stronger, Mikey has "minimal" gains because his power is getting boosted but not like 2 to 3 times, and even if he got 3 times stronger, that is not one shotting

The durability negation is another thing to be fair, but Griffith has an armor

And even then, if this fight finish, Griffith still has his supernatural luck to not die vs a bloodlusted mikey who is gonna try to kill him, not to KO him, so the stomp would be for griffith and not be added to be fair

thats contradictory

 

[LostLightt]

I wonder why when we present arguments, TR guys always say we don't and we didn't debunk anything

cause half the time u dont, from what i seen in ts thread, u've spewed out almost no valid debunks imo

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Case in point x3

 

[Delusionaltx2]

if u read mikeys profile you would see hes comp to hanma then one shots and speed blitzes him

Where does it say he just instantly grows to one shot though?

The only thing the profile says is that he one shots with DI

You're arguing that he basically has garou isk level AD that allows him to grow to blitz and one shot people comparable to him in like 2 seconds...but your evidence is him using a stat amp (DI) rather than AD?

yh he does

where's the evidence?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

thats contradictory

Then do you really want all the verses to be "Oh wait, my character is 1.0001 times stronger, he one shots" ?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

They don't even get into the Cardinal world, but get insta-nuked by the world's passives.

outside power scaling though?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

outside power scaling though?

No, I mean like actually in-verse... You need to have magicules (mana) to exist there, otherwise you quite literally get EE'd out.

 

[LostLightt]

Where does it say he just instantly grows to one shot though?

as soon as he enters DI, every single characters hes faced in the series before is one shot even if they're comp to him

The only thing the profile says is that he one shots with DI

He one shot hanma after fighting comp to him,

You're arguing that he basically has garou isk level AD that allows him to grow to blitz and one shot people comparable to him in like 2 seconds...but your evidence is him using a stat amp (DI) rather than AD?

I said his ad is fast, he goes from having his attacks blocked and dodged and being hit to not being hit once and killing his opponent in like less than 20 hits, stat amp is a different thing

Then do you really want all the verses to be "Oh wait, my character is 1.0001 times stronger, he one shots" ?

thats not what i said

 

[XxZetsuxX]

He one shot hanma after fighting comp to him,

Good thing Griffith is stronger

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

thats not what i said

But is what is gonna happen if we don't put a concrete one shot threshold

All verses are inconsistent with this, one time you stomps someone with x2 and then the other time he tanks x10 because **** logic

 

[LostLightt]

Good thing Griffith is stronger

by like 20 percent. son

 

[Buzzflightyear]

Mikey is becoming the main character of 9-B characters for his poloarization. It's basically a "can this guy beat Mikey since this guy couldnt" contest every time I come online. I remember people said he would lose to brawlers but now he is only compared to super powered characters. I'm still new to the site but man it's a reoccurring thing im noticing

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Mikey is becoming the main character of 9-B characters for his poloarization. It's basically a "can this guy beat Mikey since this guy couldnt" contest every time I come online. I remember people said he would lose to brawlers but now he is only compared to super powered characters.

Mikey should be fighting someone important like homelander

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Mikey is becoming the main character of 9-B characters for his poloarization. It's basically a "can this guy beat Mikey since this guy couldnt" contest every time I come online. I remember people said he would lose to brawlers but now he is only compared to super powered characters.

A guy with a sword is super powered?

 

[Nonynho]

yeah, Griffith FRA

 

[Buzzflightyear]

Mikey should be fighting someone important like homelander

Huh? Lol

A guy with a sword is super powered?

Im just being honest. The matchups I see the guy in tells me he's far stronger than his down players want to give him credit for. I see the same people vote against him every thread as well, there is an investment to the downplay of this character and it's very obvious by the type of matchups, as well as the same people who consistently vote against him, just saying what I've noticed being on this site for 3 weeks now.

 

[LostLightt]

yeah, Griffith FRA

Opened the thread 1 minute ago, votes Griffith.

I don't even gotta try to expose ya'll for ya dishonesty, ur saying fra when u literally opened the thread a minute ago

 

[Nonynho]

Opened the thread 1 minute ago, votes Griffith.

I don't even gotta try to expose ya'll for ya dishonesty, ur saying fra when u literally opened the thread a minute ago

go back to page 2, i've been here already, mate
i've been reading you trying to say Mikey outskills just because and other arguments that convinced me Griffith takes this

 

[LostLightt]

go back to page 2, i've been here already, mate
i've been reading you trying to say Mikey outskills just because and other arguments that convinced me Griffith takes this

Ts proves you wasn't around, ur acting like thats all I said and the other arguments are from who, can you tell me?

I seen you lurking online and didn't see u once open this thread

 

[Delusionaltx2]

as soon as he enters DI, every single characters hes faced in the series before is one shot even if they're comp to him

But you said he would stat amp himself ontop of his current state...which has him start in DI

He one shot hanma after fighting comp to him,

With DI (which he starts in) yes

that dosen't mean he can just stat amp himself to blitz and one shot on top of that instantly

I said his ad is fast, he goes from having his attacks blocked and dodged and being hit to not being hit once and killing his opponent in like less than 20 hits, stat amp is a different thing

But people were also arguing for piercing so his AD would need to be capable of somehow making him more resistant to piercing and some how be a bltiz amp instantly...but didn't you just say it wasn't that?

thats not what i said

sorry but i'm reading this again and it really looks to be the opposite

I'll just continue watching and give this maybe 1-2 more pages