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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

Well, there's that feat of Frisk being hit by a 900kg rock at the waterfall, being thrown and surviving the fall without injury, even though it's a 9-B on the Kilojoule level.
 
tbh, I'm ok with using the O. Flowey bullet calc, considering 0 DEF Frisk can survive getting hit by them, and we don't have much of a reason to assume they became INSANELY stronger post-Asgore fight, and we know Flowey was holding back by a f*ckton when the feat happened, so it wouldn't contradict the tier he's at
 
IDK3465 said:
tbh, I'm ok with using the O. Flowey bullet calc, considering 0 DEF Frisk can survive getting hit by them, and we don't have much of a reason to assume they became INSANELY stronger post-Asgore fight, and we know Flowey was holding back by a f*ckton when the feat happened, so it wouldn't contradict the tier he's at
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with that MHS+ returns too ngl
 
StrymULTRA said:
with that MHS+ returns too ngl
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About speed.
1. All monsters should scale to Tsunderplane(Mach 7.95). Moldsmal is present during fights in Waterfall.
2. Faster monsters like Asgore and Undying should be superior Tsunderplane in speed.
3. High Determination Frisk (lv 19) should be superior to it. With 4 sea tea they should be at least x2 faster(Mach 15.9)
4. Sans is faster than Frisk with 4 sea tea

Is there anywhere possibility for upscale?
 
Sans profile after the downgrades

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Qurbonboev said:
Did calced some of them. Do you have anything else in mind?
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That's awesome even if I dislike getting the speed from the lightning bolts lol

Probably not much, just throwing stuff at the wall here...

 
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Always nice to have lots of support calcs, especially since like 70% of the verse's calcs got thrown out recently lol

Everything else is coming up Street or lower 9-B. Papyrus throws an orb. Papyrus slowly moves some 2.5d bone wall things (and a car). It's sorta implied that Mettaton NEO blows up and Frisk maybe tanks it. Gaster Blasters greatly resemble turtle skulls, and they move pretty fast, maybe you can get KE/GPE from that if you can find the weight

Ig Mettaton threatens to "incinerate" Frisk with jets of fire, which would be high-end 9-B iirc, but it never actually happens
 
Randomuser3412 said:
It would be low 9-A... too bad it doesn't happen, probably couldn't happen and wouldn't scale to anyone if it did...
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I think the calc is for an adult man, which Frisk is not, so it'd be a bit lower

The only thing that I can think of for this one is, the fire does sweep across the screen once the timer is up. You could theoretically get the max distance and then do the ke of the flames, assuming Mettaton is moving them? Maybe?

I did a quick estimate calc (not posted) of Frisk surviving being hit by those falling rocks in waterfall, got just above baseline wall level using this weight
 
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Jevil vs ERAM or John Mantle

Despite ERAM being a secret boss from DELTARUNE, they don't seem to get that much attention unlike their other peers so... I'm changing that today! RULES: ERAM and Jevil are used. Battle takes place in ERAM's room Both start 10 meters from each other. Speed is NOT equalized SBA...
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I realized there's multiple Jevil matches at the moment lmao. Jevil is getting a good work out.
 
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Eden_Warlock99 said:
What we do with this
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I checked how this works. Initially, bullets do normal damage, chipping away HP. But they stop doing damage if HP is very low.
So, Omega Flowey(or Fallen Children) do hold back power of this attack if HP is very low, but don't otherwise
 
Qurbonboev said:
I checked how this works. Initially, bullets do normal damage, chipping away HP. But they stop doing damage if HP is very low.
So, Omega Flowey(or Fallen Children) do hold back power of this attack if HP is very low, but don't otherwise
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I belive are the fallen children because if you can still die against flowey section them the soul section is more about going against flowey wish to kill you.
 
I noticed something: in that scene where Undyne and Frisk survive a 9000-degree explosion from Mettaton's oven, you could calculate the amount of heat Undyne absorbs from the explosion. I believe it would be at least a 9-A because of the high temperature.

Furthermore, in the same scene, the pan above the stove was vaporized, if that serves as an estimate.
 
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EnderLord8 said:
I noticed something: in that scene where Undyne and Frisk survive a 9000-degree explosion from Mettaton's oven, you could calculate the amount of heat Undyne absorbs from the explosion. I believe it would be at leasts a 9-A because of the high temperature.

On another note, what evidence is there that the 9000 degrees refers to Fahrenheit and not Celsius or Kelvin?

Furthermore, in the same scene, the pan above the stove was vaporized, if that serves as an estimate.
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If this calc is anything to go by, we could easily be looking at 9-A depending on how long the heat lasted

Also, the reason it’s in Fahrenheit is because imperial units are constantly used in other areas of the game, so we assume the same applies to the stove
 
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