UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

[Echidnacodefan2512]

I remember seeing something about it, dunno whatever happened to it.

It was nuked

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Any way since you guys wont even talk about meaty and candy joke

My question is why ? Like it there..

 

[Qurbonboev]

It is a bit weird how there aren't better feats. The only additions I can think of are Undyne breaking the pier thing, Mad Dummy's rockets, Abberant's sword swing, Knight Knight meteors, and Papyrus' bone walls

1. I am making Abberant calc, but need to remake with new sizes.
2. Papyrus bone thingies are already calculated
3. Meteors are invalid
4. Undyne breaking what? Pier?
5. What is it here to calculate with Mad Dummy rockets?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Here's to hoping we can calc shaking feats again so that Metaton's feat actually becomes viable

Unless we're using those earthquake formulas, I don't think it's going to make a huge difference. I mean, what's the feat?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Unless we're using those earthquake formulas, I don't think it's going to make a huge difference. I mean, what's the feat?

1. It's Mettaton shaking the screen in first introduction
2. Using earthquake is unfounded and would be outlier
3. With recently rejected formula it would have been around 0.05 tons

 

[ShockingPsychic]

1. I am making Abberant calc, but need to remake with new sizes.

Nice

2. Papyrus bone thingies are already calculated

Link?

3. Meteors are invalid

Womp womp

4. Undyne breaking what? Pier?

In Waterfall, Undyne corners you and breaks the pier, sending you falling. Right before the Asriel and Chara cutscene

5. What is it here to calculate with Mad Dummy rockets?

Surely the rockets blowing up would be a good support feat?

 

[Randomuser3412]

Surely the rockets blowing up would be a good support feat?

Pyrope's bombs are Street Level now. Those are gonna be like 10-C

 

[Axorandom0]

Pyrope's bombs are Street Level now. Those are gonna be like 10-C

Have some faith! They’ll be, like, 10-B.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

In Waterfall, Undyne corners you and breaks the pier, sending you falling. Right before the Asriel and Chara cutscene.

Around 25:59 and 26:01 + the shaking

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Have some faith! They’ll be, like, 10-B.

Cant we just upgrade thier durability due frisk attack reaction ?.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Random Feats that may or may not be Wall level:

• Mettaton moving some boxes (metal material is probably a safe assumption? since he's a robot?)
• Mettaton's bomb pulverizes a more solid box
• Breaking the minitons
• Undyne breaks a pier
• Asgore trident swing

 

[Qurbonboev]

Random Feats that may or may not be Wall level:

• Mettaton moving some boxes (metal material is probably a safe assumption? since he's a robot?)
• Mettaton's bomb pulverizes a more solid box
• Breaking the minitons
• Undyne breaks a pier
• Asgore trident swing

1. Could work
2. Could work
3. Maybe could work
4. Undyne just breaks connection with pier, at best it's 9-C
5. Unless trident is half a ton, won't qualify for KE feat

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

4. Undyne just breaks connection with pier, at best it's 9-C

Since undyne spears are solid enegry how much would it weight? + the shaking and cutting wood perfectly change something?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Have some faith! They’ll be, like, 10-B.

The child will be a child tier.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

The child will be a child tier.

My question how you guys dont count the fact that gloves are touching lava to increase tier durability or heat resistance.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Dude, I don't understand anything you're saying.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Dude, I don't understand anything you're saying.

Dont worry i already got my answer and you dont need know anyway

Edit: But anyway why did Rodrigo didnt looked at name of the mountain to know where they are from ? Since the name literally have a origin

 

[Qurbonboev]

Sadly, most proposed calcs are either too low or don't qualify for KE feats.
At least, we have this

 

[ShockingPsychic]

That only scales to Omega Flowey and High DT Frisk though

 

[Kellex]

But anyway why did Rodrigo didnt looked at name of the mountain to know where they are from ? Since the name literally have a origin

I don't see how that's relevant to Rodriiogo's thread?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

That only scales to Omega Flowey and High DT Frisk though

Nothing really says that the Frisk that fought Omega Flowey is exceptionally strong, or stronger than the one that fought Asgore really.
Omega Flowey with 0 DEF still takes a few hits to take down afterall.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

If O. Flowey is Low 1-C, and Frisk can survive his attacks, doesn't that imply that Frisk's durability is Low 1-C at the time?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

If O. Flowey is Low 1-C, and Frisk can survive his attacks, doesn't that imply that Frisk's durability is Low 1-C at the time?

Nah Flowey was screwing around, he kinda one-shot Frisk a few dozen times at the end of the fight.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

I don't see how that's relevant to Rodriiogo's thread?

Papyrus size

Due origin of the name implying where it is localized.

 

[StrymULTRA]

If O. Flowey is Low 1-C, and Frisk can survive his attacks, doesn't that imply that Frisk's durability is Low 1-C at the time?

OF was shown to be uber holding back and could one shot and blitz Frisk the second he went serious, so no.

Nothing really says that the Frisk that fought Omega Flowey is exceptionally strong, or stronger than the one that fought Asgore really.
Omega Flowey with 0 DEF still takes a few hits to take down afterall.

Tbf if we cannot prove that the holding back OF was using strength at the level of Asgore we cannot scale these monsters to those feats either.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

I don't see how that's relevant to Rodriiogo's thread?

Origin of mountain ebott name.

Ebott Name Meaning English: nickname from Old French bot ‘toad’ (compare Bottrell ). Alternatively, from the Middle English personal name Botte (a survival of Old English Botta). Compare Botting . Here

vsbattles.com

 

[Kellex]

Papyrus size

...wha?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Tbf if we cannot prove that the holding back OF was using strength at the level of Asgore we cannot scale these monsters to those feats either.

Would the negative be proving that Frisk didn't get stronger or the other way around?
Actually since everyone's in the same Tier now, ain't vs. Asriel the only time they've ever gotten stronger?

Aside that, the 0 DEF thing does show they weren't absurdly stronger than normal.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I'm opposed to scaling anyone to an O. Flowey feat. We'd essentially be scaling normal monsters to a Low 1-C's casual attack

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Would the negative be proving that Frisk didn't get stronger or the other way around?
Actually since everyone's in the same Tier now, ain't vs. Asriel the only time they've ever gotten stronger?

Aside that, the 0 DEF thing does show they weren't absurdly stronger than normal.

That just prove they manipulate math....

Cool

 

[Qurbonboev]

Tbf if we cannot prove that the holding back OF was using strength at the level of Asgore we cannot scale these monsters to those feats either

KE of that bullet is 0.005 tons. 0 DEF Frisk can take several hits of them. There is no indication that this Frisk is absurdly stronger than before

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

KE of that bullet is 0.005 tons. 0 DEF Frisk can take several hits of them. There is no indication that this Frisk is absurdly stronger than before

Did you use real guns speed ?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Did you use real guns speed ?

Yes?
What else would I use?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Flowey could make the bullet go slower Ig, Inverted Fate moment

 

[Qurbonboev]

It's geniunely so strange. Like very recently, before big Deltarune CRT, we had UT main cast much higher than DR.
Now, only one AP calc in DR verse page is lower than UT highest calc.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Flowey could make the bullet go slower Ig, Inverted Fate moment

Prove it then

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

...wha?

anyway changing the comment

Old english

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

I'm opposed to scaling anyone to an O. Flowey feat. We'd essentially be scaling normal monsters to a Low 1-C's casual attack

If they affect the player and can hurt the player or hack the player or even aware about time and space manipulation or even law manipulation...why not ?

 

[Qurbonboev]

If they affect the player and can hurt the player or hack the player or even aware about time and space manipulation or even law manipulation...why not ?

No normal monster can even affect the Player. Awareness about time and space manipulation doesn't mean that you are 1-C, lmao

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

No normal monster can even affect the Player. Awareness about time and space manipulation doesn't mean that you are 1-C, lmao

Carol says otherwise.