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Self-evident intelligence revisions thread


Should be "Genius" or "At least Genius" in light of this long analysis I found
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The Hoffmanator

Mark Hoffman Introduction: Mark Hoffman was a respected detective within the SAW verse whose sister was slain by her ex-boyfriend. Heavily disillusioned, Mark created a Jigsaw-style trap to avenge his sister and frame the murder on Jigsaw, though this caught the killer’s attention. John Kra...
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Tldr:

Extremely complex plans, comparable to his mentor Kramer

Implied to have become a proficient engineer in a very short amount of time to build the pendulum trap for Seth Baxter, enough to fool the police and FBI with a copy-cat trap despite them having studied Jigsaw's MO. His audio encryption in killing Seth also almost perfectly replicated Kramer's voice, which the FBI later were very impressed by. Kramer would later teach him more so that Hoffman could help set up a lot of the more complex games seen later on.

Later, Hoffman picked up extensive medical skills and chemistry knowledge, allowing him to perform the various medical operations (surgically inserting stuff into subjects without killing them, setting up tests like the husband/wife duo who were shishkebab'd with rods precisely so that the wife would live if she pulled her rods out, which would kill the husband, but she would die if she left them in) and concoct deadly nerve agents like sarin gas, which typically is done by scientists in extremely controlled environments.

Ofc the typical mindgames and twists in SAW require some crazy psychological intuition/knowledge to predict people's actions

That's on top of his background as a detective

So being a master strategist, detective, and engineer with chemical, medical, and psychological knowledge -> Genius.
And I think his fast mastery of engineering and medical which would typically take years (speaking from experience on that second one), even under education, would push him into the superhuman range for the "At least Genius"
 
Genius seems fine, but not "At least Genius/Possibly Extraordinary Genius", as it requires considerable superhuman intelligence. 🙏
 
What intelligence rating do we give someone being able to create a high 3-A structure with tech they invented?
 
Well, they also need to have a very extreme versatility in their inventions in combination with an infinite scale of power for them. Otherwise they do not qualify. 🙏
 
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Kamen Rider Shin

Shin Kazamatsuri (風祭 真, Kazamatsuri Shin) is the main protagonist of the movie Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue. Transforming into Kamen Rider Shin (仮面ライダーシン, Kamen Raidā Shin, Masked Rider Shin), a Cyborg Soldier Level 3 (改造兵士レベル3, Kaizou Heishi Reberu Surī) mutant, Shin eventually finds himself...
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This guy has an IQ of 250, which exceeds most of the real life geniuses. I think he should be straight up Genius instead of Gifted.
 
I'm not certain. From a quick look at his other feats, Gifted appears to be a more appropriate fit. We also have text in the Intelligence section explaining why the IQ number shouldn't be taken at face value.

It may also depend on what the quality of Department of Physical Education at Johnan University actually is, since he graduated from there.
 
I think that Butler is correct here. 🙏
 
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Albert Wesker

Albert Wesker is the main antagonist in the Resident Evil series. He was the leader of S.T.A.R.S. while secretly working for Umbrella Corporation as a Researcher. Later working for The 3rd Organization, H.C.F. (Hive/Host Capture Force), TriCell, he shifts allegiances at will to further his own...
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He help invited both the T-virus which turns people into zombies and zombies aren't possible irl. Wesker also created the Uroboros virus which has properties that no other viruses could have in the real world. That should obviously be Extraordinary Genius
 
I suppose that seems reasonable. 🙏
 
The Adventurer (Iruna)

I want to nominate Adventurer because his intelligence section still in combative form.

•Possesses exceptional analytical ability, being capable of rapidly understanding the complex political landscape between three nations engaged in a prolonged war, despite having only recently arrived. Demonstrated sufficient insight to deduce that the conflict was orchestrated by a higher, abstract entity (the Will of Darkness).

•Highly proficient in strategic and diplomatic reasoning, able to actively participate in high-level discussions regarding the resolution of international conflict, and provide input alongside a nation's advisors on matters of war and governance.

•Displays extreme versatility in knowledge and skill acquisition, mastering a wide range of disciplines including combat techniques, weapon proficiencies, tactical combat, alchemy, smithing, carpentry, and monster taming, despite lacking prior experience.

•Demonstrates advanced technical understanding, capable of comprehending and utilizing complex machinery that harnesses natural and planetary energy, including systems with destructive capabilities on a national scale.

•Despite lacking prior knowledge of specific machinery, is capable of independently analyzing and deducing its function and operational structure, to the extent of identifying critical components and modifying them to successfully deactivate the system.

•Exhibits superior problem-solving skills, able to analyze and solve ancient mechanisms and dungeon-based puzzles without prior knowledge or reference frameworks, succeeding where specialists and experts have failed.


To either Gifted or Genius.


(Tho I wouldn't mind gifted).
 
Looking at Shion Yozakura's intelligence and Analytical prediction/Info analysis. Should she be bumped from just Genius to "At least Genius" since she builds all her own tech + software and does all of this

(Is stated to be a genius hacker. Using said programs regularly to conduct cyberattacks against cartels and terrorist organizations. She also can hack into military grade systems such as missiles Developed the Old-Man Hunter on her own. A global scale network that takes advantage of technology Shion has hacked into in order to track down Momo Yozakura based on recognizing DNA similarities. Who was considered Nigh-Impossible to track otherwise due to his teleportation and stealth skills. Developed a software that could track down the source of where a bomb was triggered by its detonation signal even if its a crude tool like a gas bomb or c4. Rebuilt an old emergency hotline in order to reestablish communications such as phone call when telecoms were blocked off due to the Yozakura mansion going into hibernation mode. Created the software the Spy Association currently uses in order to identify cheaters and fraudulent applications for the Spy exams while she was still 6. Shion claims that Alpha Yozakura was the first one to force her to use more than one finger in a computer battle. When she was trying to create the Old Man Hunter 2 and needed far more server power to run it, knowing she couldn't outright hack into Giga's systems, instead she lured Giga into the Yozakura network, then short circuited her own computer to stun Giga's defenses for a few seconds to gain access. Her traps and radars are so effective that not even ants can sneak past them, as well as hacking into her school in order to alter her attendance records as a child. Shion's defenses she made for the Yozakura Family manor are so secure that Momo would have never been able to stream a live video to them, even though Momo would've had the Tanpopo at his disposal for years. After the timeskip, her clothes which are a wearable super computer, was designed by her. While using Analyzation she claims that Cha Cha even with his enhanced mind was not even in the palm of her hand, but just the tip of her finger in regards to intellect. Proceeding to take over Tanpopo's entire network with ease. In this state her processing and analytical capabilities are compared to a supercomputer and she was able to comb through her entire life's memories in order to find a weakness to exploit against Futaba despite her and Nanao being weaker combatants)

As the justification already explains she outscales the extraordinary genius that is Alpha Yozakura at least in terms of Software and Tech stuff

Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction (Shion is superior to Kenzi. Who was able to analyze hundreds of attack patterns his parents would use in combat to find the weaknesses in their fighting style. When Taiyo used Kenzi's intel, he easily predicted then defeated Kenzi's parents.She has been able to calculate the likelihood of Shinzo doing certain things such as saying Shinzo always needs to think for 10 minutes when deciding between two things at the shop or whether he will regret his decision in a few days time. Shion can analyze the opponent then make optimal attack patterns against them. In addition, she can calculate shortcuts to get to a location She was able to analyze Kurosawa's body, figuring out he is composed of Steel cell fibers. Shion can uncover the abilities of someone by looking at them and analyzing them with her tech, such as discovering the Sakuranbos can grow larger and have absorption. Furthermore, she could detect an energy surge the Sakuranbo had after it consumed enough Someinine as well analyzing handwriting to determine when it was written. Figured out Kyoichiro was in the middle of fighting underground due to light tremors being created by his attacks. and proceeded to find his location with only that information. Even managing to analyze that there was no life in a several hundred meter radius after Momo and Kyoichiro teleported away. Her phone can detect if food is edible to eat or not as well. With her headgear she can detect various forms of chemical buildup, like the amount of Hazakura in Kawashita's body. As well as detecting endurance data and biometrics or someone's vitals)

Her drones she built can do this

With someone elses help (Giga) she could build this too.
 
HakutoRei000 said:
The Adventurer (Iruna)

I want to nominate Adventurer because his intelligence section still in combative form.

•Possesses exceptional analytical ability, being capable of rapidly understanding the complex political landscape between three nations engaged in a prolonged war, despite having only recently arrived. Demonstrated sufficient insight to deduce that the conflict was orchestrated by a higher, abstract entity (the Will of Darkness).

•Highly proficient in strategic and diplomatic reasoning, able to actively participate in high-level discussions regarding the resolution of international conflict, and provide input alongside a nation's advisors on matters of war and governance.

•Displays extreme versatility in knowledge and skill acquisition, mastering a wide range of disciplines including combat techniques, weapon proficiencies, tactical combat, alchemy, smithing, carpentry, and monster taming, despite lacking prior experience.

•Demonstrates advanced technical understanding, capable of comprehending and utilizing complex machinery that harnesses natural and planetary energy, including systems with destructive capabilities on a national scale.

•Despite lacking prior knowledge of specific machinery, is capable of independently analyzing and deducing its function and operational structure, to the extent of identifying critical components and modifying them to successfully deactivate the system.

•Exhibits superior problem-solving skills, able to analyze and solve ancient mechanisms and dungeon-based puzzles without prior knowledge or reference frameworks, succeeding where specialists and experts have failed.


To either Gifted or Genius.


(Tho I wouldn't mind gifted).
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"At least Gifted" seems fine to me. 🙏
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Looking at Shion Yozakura's intelligence and Analytical prediction/Info analysis. Should she be bumped from just Genius to "At least Genius" since she builds all her own tech + software and does all of this

(Is stated to be a genius hacker. Using said programs regularly to conduct cyberattacks against cartels and terrorist organizations. She also can hack into military grade systems such as missiles Developed the Old-Man Hunter on her own. A global scale network that takes advantage of technology Shion has hacked into in order to track down Momo Yozakura based on recognizing DNA similarities. Who was considered Nigh-Impossible to track otherwise due to his teleportation and stealth skills. Developed a software that could track down the source of where a bomb was triggered by its detonation signal even if its a crude tool like a gas bomb or c4. Rebuilt an old emergency hotline in order to reestablish communications such as phone call when telecoms were blocked off due to the Yozakura mansion going into hibernation mode. Created the software the Spy Association currently uses in order to identify cheaters and fraudulent applications for the Spy exams while she was still 6. Shion claims that Alpha Yozakura was the first one to force her to use more than one finger in a computer battle. When she was trying to create the Old Man Hunter 2 and needed far more server power to run it, knowing she couldn't outright hack into Giga's systems, instead she lured Giga into the Yozakura network, then short circuited her own computer to stun Giga's defenses for a few seconds to gain access. Her traps and radars are so effective that not even ants can sneak past them, as well as hacking into her school in order to alter her attendance records as a child. Shion's defenses she made for the Yozakura Family manor are so secure that Momo would have never been able to stream a live video to them, even though Momo would've had the Tanpopo at his disposal for years. After the timeskip, her clothes which are a wearable super computer, was designed by her. While using Analyzation she claims that Cha Cha even with his enhanced mind was not even in the palm of her hand, but just the tip of her finger in regards to intellect. Proceeding to take over Tanpopo's entire network with ease. In this state her processing and analytical capabilities are compared to a supercomputer and she was able to comb through her entire life's memories in order to find a weakness to exploit against Futaba despite her and Nanao being weaker combatants)

As the justification already explains she outscales the extraordinary genius that is Alpha Yozakura at least in terms of Software and Tech stuff

Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction (Shion is superior to Kenzi. Who was able to analyze hundreds of attack patterns his parents would use in combat to find the weaknesses in their fighting style. When Taiyo used Kenzi's intel, he easily predicted then defeated Kenzi's parents.She has been able to calculate the likelihood of Shinzo doing certain things such as saying Shinzo always needs to think for 10 minutes when deciding between two things at the shop or whether he will regret his decision in a few days time. Shion can analyze the opponent then make optimal attack patterns against them. In addition, she can calculate shortcuts to get to a location She was able to analyze Kurosawa's body, figuring out he is composed of Steel cell fibers. Shion can uncover the abilities of someone by looking at them and analyzing them with her tech, such as discovering the Sakuranbos can grow larger and have absorption. Furthermore, she could detect an energy surge the Sakuranbo had after it consumed enough Someinine as well analyzing handwriting to determine when it was written. Figured out Kyoichiro was in the middle of fighting underground due to light tremors being created by his attacks. and proceeded to find his location with only that information. Even managing to analyze that there was no life in a several hundred meter radius after Momo and Kyoichiro teleported away. Her phone can detect if food is edible to eat or not as well. With her headgear she can detect various forms of chemical buildup, like the amount of Hazakura in Kawashita's body. As well as detecting endurance data and biometrics or someone's vitals)

Her drones she built can do this

With someone elses help (Giga) she could build this too.
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That seems like lower range Extraordinary Genius territory, yes. 🙏
 
Billy Loomis
Should be Gifted for the following:
"A year prior to Scream, Billy got away with the murder of Maureen Prescott alongside Stu Macher, and successfully framed him for the act. Billy planned the events of the original Scream with assistance from Stu, even while operating as the primary suspect of the concurrent murders and managing to stay off the radar. Planned the murders of Casey and Steve, initially keeping Casey mentally engaged and emotionally invested in a phone call while positioning the real threat outside of her house only to later manipulate her actions through verbal intimidation to force her into panicking rationally and simultaneously isolating Steve to make her comply, all while later minimizing exposure and misdirecting potential witnesses and authorities to make the killings appear chaotic or untraceable. Kept an entire relationship with Sidney for a very long time to gain her trust while setting up his revenge plan by maintaining a façade of love and normalcy for that period of time, hiding his true psychotic intensions despite his resentment towards her, which would include his ability to know how to pamper her enough to allow her to fall for him. Staged his own arrest by incriminating himself with circumstantial evidence, controlling the police investigation and keep Sidney off-balance all without compromising the ongoing killings and allowing Billy to present a strong alibi to law enforcement and eventually clear his name. Forced Mr. Himbry into many predictable patterns in order to cause the latter's death in a way that would serve as a distraction to later clear out the remaining partygoers in Stu's house later that night and draw them away from the main area by having Stu call the landline with the gruesome details as an act for his final plan. Faked his own death in front of Sidney to emotionally manipulate her and highlight his convincing acting skills, even later using this to force Sidney's guard down despite her being armed and allowing him to incapacitate Randy. In the act for his final plan, Billy staged every action to isolate everyone without interference and maximize full control while maintaining misdirection against Neil Prescott to hide his presence and predict Sidney's reactions to the events unfolding around her which overall involves a high degree of foresight and coverage."

Jill Roberts
Should be Gifted for the following:
"Planned the events of Scream 4 with assistance from Charlie Walker, including a final frame job on Trevor and her own partner to reinforce her goal of fame while fabricating a crime scene and self-inflicted wounds to imitate victim positioning. Vandalized Sidney's rental car to frame Sidney as the primary target while positioning Jill as a plausible survivor in order to make her part of the investigation and unable to leave Woodsboro. Expertly manipulated Charlie into aiding her in her plans, getting him so infatuated with her that he went as far as attempting to kill Kirby despite his massive crush towards her, which highlights good enough emotional manipulation to essentially love-bomb him into complete loyalty without him inducing any sort of betrayal against her. Gaslit Kirby into believing Charlie was guilty before re-gaslighting his innocence to lure into a trap, which highlights again great emotional manipulation. Planned the murder of Rebecca and the attack on Gale in order to create massive media attention and escalate the killings into a public spectacle, all while maintaining Jill’s alibi and eliminating threats to keep the chaos going while gradually disbanding the group surrounding Sidney. Staged her own attack in order to ensure her own innocence as well as give Sidney a "Preview of what's to come" in being Olivia's murder. Her final strategy involved a high degree of coverage and shielding, with Jill predicting nearly where everyone within the group would go at roughly different times and her tactics being key in removing threats and creating chaos and leaving no one in a position to decipher anything."

I wouldn't consider them any higher than this due their lack of frameworks across broader systems, and also due to their anti-feats (primarily at the end of the movies which show how very easily impulsive and irrational they can be) and many situations also relying on luck or coincidences rather than actual tactical scheming.
 
Hello

Could an EG outplanning a Supergenius be enough for changing the profile to "EG, possibly Supergenius"?
 
Nonynho said:
Hello

Could an EG outplanning a Supergenius be enough for changing the profile to "EG, possibly Supergenius"?
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the feat, below (From The End and The Death Volume 2, 6:III

He can barely see him in the darkness. It is as though Ferrus Manus is not really there, or is rapidly ceasing to be there.
‘Go,’ says Sanguinius. ‘I need no more lessons.’
‘No, one more,’ says Ferrus. ‘He hid in the past.’
‘Horus?’
Ferrus Manus nods. ‘That’s how he tricked you. That’s how he tricked our father. He could not risk our father learning the extent of his power, or reading his thoughts, or comprehending the nature of the trap he had set, so, by will and warp, Horus put himself into his own past, into his memories, so deeply and so completely that, for a time, even he did not know where he was or what he was doing.’
‘Is that possible?’ asks Sanguinius.
‘For him, yes. A tactical masterstroke, but then he is the Warmaster. There was no mind for our father to read, no present thoughts that could be betrayed. Horus gave himself to madness and fitful recollection so that he could give nothing of his plan away. And his plan was known only to him, of course.’
‘And thus we were deceived, and came here,’ murmurs Sanguinius.
‘Yes,’ says Ferrus sadly.
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"Our father" refers to Emp, who's Supergenius
And the character i intend on changing the rate is Horus Lupercal, with this feat
 
HorrorHistory said:
Billy Loomis
Should be Gifted for the following:
"A year prior to Scream, Billy got away with the murder of Maureen Prescott alongside Stu Macher, and successfully framed him for the act. Billy planned the events of the original Scream with assistance from Stu, even while operating as the primary suspect of the concurrent murders and managing to stay off the radar. Planned the murders of Casey and Steve, initially keeping Casey mentally engaged and emotionally invested in a phone call while positioning the real threat outside of her house only to later manipulate her actions through verbal intimidation to force her into panicking rationally and simultaneously isolating Steve to make her comply, all while later minimizing exposure and misdirecting potential witnesses and authorities to make the killings appear chaotic or untraceable. Kept an entire relationship with Sidney for a very long time to gain her trust while setting up his revenge plan by maintaining a façade of love and normalcy for that period of time, hiding his true psychotic intensions despite his resentment towards her, which would include his ability to know how to pamper her enough to allow her to fall for him. Staged his own arrest by incriminating himself with circumstantial evidence, controlling the police investigation and keep Sidney off-balance all without compromising the ongoing killings and allowing Billy to present a strong alibi to law enforcement and eventually clear his name. Forced Mr. Himbry into many predictable patterns in order to cause the latter's death in a way that would serve as a distraction to later clear out the remaining partygoers in Stu's house later that night and draw them away from the main area by having Stu call the landline with the gruesome details as an act for his final plan. Faked his own death in front of Sidney to emotionally manipulate her and highlight his convincing acting skills, even later using this to force Sidney's guard down despite her being armed and allowing him to incapacitate Randy. In the act for his final plan, Billy staged every action to isolate everyone without interference and maximize full control while maintaining misdirection against Neil Prescott to hide his presence and predict Sidney's reactions to the events unfolding around her which overall involves a high degree of foresight and coverage."

Jill Roberts
Should be Gifted for the following:
"Planned the events of Scream 4 with assistance from Charlie Walker, including a final frame job on Trevor and her own partner to reinforce her goal of fame while fabricating a crime scene and self-inflicted wounds to imitate victim positioning. Vandalized Sidney's rental car to frame Sidney as the primary target while positioning Jill as a plausible survivor in order to make her part of the investigation and unable to leave Woodsboro. Expertly manipulated Charlie into aiding her in her plans, getting him so infatuated with her that he went as far as attempting to kill Kirby despite his massive crush towards her, which highlights good enough emotional manipulation to essentially love-bomb him into complete loyalty without him inducing any sort of betrayal against her. Gaslit Kirby into believing Charlie was guilty before re-gaslighting his innocence to lure into a trap, which highlights again great emotional manipulation. Planned the murder of Rebecca and the attack on Gale in order to create massive media attention and escalate the killings into a public spectacle, all while maintaining Jill’s alibi and eliminating threats to keep the chaos going while gradually disbanding the group surrounding Sidney. Staged her own attack in order to ensure her own innocence as well as give Sidney a "Preview of what's to come" in being Olivia's murder. Her final strategy involved a high degree of coverage and shielding, with Jill predicting nearly where everyone within the group would go at roughly different times and her tactics being key in removing threats and creating chaos and leaving no one in a position to decipher anything."

I wouldn't consider them any higher than this due their lack of frameworks across broader systems, and also due to their anti-feats (primarily at the end of the movies which show how very easily impulsive and irrational they can be) and many situations also relying on luck or coincidences rather than actual tactical scheming.
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That seems fine, yes. 🙏
 
Nonynho said:
Hello

Could an EG outplanning a Supergenius be enough for changing the profile to "EG, possibly Supergenius"?
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Outplanning feats within fiction are usually limited to the intelligence of the real world authors, who are usually Gifted at best, as well as plot-induced stupidity, so I do not think so, unless this character has explicit Supergenius feats within the story itself. 🙏
 
Yes.

There are also characters with clearly superior feats placing them in the Extraordinary Genius or Supergenius range, yet they can still be outsmarted by others, even when those individuals only demonstrate intelligence a tier below their stated ratings. This isn't impossible and is actually quite common in fiction.

I know a series where an Extraordinary Genius character has peers who are portrayed as comparable to him by the author, yet his wiki rating is still significantly higher because of his feat of predicting years into the future through mental calculations (and other crazy feats that he has), something the others have not demonstrated (at least not to that level).

And when it comes to planning, things become even more subjective, as it can be influenced by how creative and intelligent the author is.
 
Antvasima said:
Outplanning feats within fiction are usually limited to the intelligence of the real world authors, who are usually Gifted at best, as well as plot-induced stupidity, so I do not think so, unless this character has explicit Supergenius feats within the story itself. 🙏
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Just a Random Butler said:
Yes.

There are also characters with clearly superior feats placing them in the Extraordinary Genius or Supergenius range, yet they can still be outsmarted by others, even when those individuals only demonstrate intelligence a tier below their stated ratings. This isn't impossible and is actually quite common in fiction.

I know a series where an Extraordinary Genius character has peers who are portrayed as comparable to him by the author, yet his wiki rating is still significantly higher because of his feat of predicting years into the future through mental calculations (and other crazy feats that he has), something the others have not demonstrated (at least not to that level).

And when it comes to planning, things become even more subjective, as it can be influenced by how creative and intelligent the author is.
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The thing about this scenario in specific is that The Emperor's is the peak of intelligence for the verse, being implied and stated to be a step above of everyone else (When asking a supporter if The Emperor could solve chess for a Versus Thread, the main supporter for the verse replied me that he can outsmart/outplan 1-A precognition, for starters), and as the statement says, only Horus could've been able to do it, which doesn't seem like PIS for any side or hyperbole by any means, specially because Horus became the Warmaster, second only to the Emperor, by his own call.

That's why i advocate for "EG, possibly Supergenius" to be the case, specially because "Only he could be capable of doing it" is not coming from any of the delusions the character had during the Siege Of Terra arc, nor by even a part of the war that had regard for him, it came from someone trying to tell another part how to stop him, explaining how they got to where they were at, mostly losing the fight inside his ship
 
His other feats do not remotely meet our Supergenius requirements, so I do not think so. My apologies. 🙏
 
Update for Adventurer (Toram)

Intelligence: At least Genius

(The Adventurer can process raw materials into refined components and combine them through alchemy and synthesis to create usable items and equipment. They can alter and customize equipment by attaching multiple attributes, preserving specific properties, and adjusting how those attributes interact with each other. They are able to refine equipment to improve its performance and repeatedly enhance results by increasing success rates and reducing failure risks over time.

They can manage different types of materials, control how much is consumed during crafting, and choose how to allocate resources depending on the desired outcome. They are also capable of increasing the potential of equipment before modifying it, allowing for more complex and higher-quality customization.

In addition, they can summon and control golems, and adjust their parameters such as attack, defense, and speed through a system that distributes power into different functions. They can enhance specific types of golems and modify how they perform in combat, effectively tuning them for different roles.)

To add that Golem here required energy that don't exist in our world such as Mana, Elemental energy, and even Soul.
 
"Genius" seems reasonable to me. 🙏
 
Agreed. Feel free to do so.

Also, you are allowed to update Beta Ray Bill to "At least Genius" if you wish. 🙏
 
I honestly dont know enough about Beta Ray Bill and unaware of the context of this planet tech intelligence feat due to lack of referencing so i'm gonna leave that alone for now, no idea if anyone else knows what its talking about
 
That is perfectly fine. Feel free to do so. 🙏
 
Change Ash Ketchum from Extraordinary Genius to Gifted in battle

He's smart in battle but he's not in comprehensible, has frequently lost to lesser, and nothing beyond the last feat proves this level of intelligence. Extraordinary Genius is only for the truly unfathomable
The Supercomputer feat on his profile was a robot built by Clemont, whose inventioned frequently over-combust and dont work right as a gag, so its not fair to say Ash is just incomprehensible in that regard.
 
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