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The Sun God Nika vs The Six Paths Sage (Luffy vs Naruto).

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Luffy can emit armament from his body at the TSO, Conqueror's Infusion does something similar with making a "barrier" around the user. The TSOs cant actually touch Luffy.
The moment the barrier touches the TSO, that specific section of Haki ceases to exist. Since the barrier is erased upon contact, there is no solid surface for the swat to land on. The orb would pass through the hole it just created in the Haki and continue toward Luffy.
 
Even if it could, they'd still be swatted away due to the force being applied to them. Erasing matter is not the same as erasing force or KE.
Any attempt to apply force to a TSO requires interaction, and that interaction is erased at the point of contact—preventing force transfer entirely. Doesn’t matter if it’s force or energy, if it touches TSO they get EE
 
Even if it could, they'd still be swatted away due to the force being applied to them. Erasing matter is not the same as erasing force or KE.
The force here is gotten through momentum transfer, which would occur if haki emission hits the orb, but that isn’t what’s happening here at all.

The TSOs erases everything that comes into contact with it, so the energy never collides in the first place. There is no interaction surface where momentum can be transferred either. No interaction, no momentum transfer.
 
It’s now 36 for Luffy to 40 for Naruto… and it’s been over 24 hours since an above 3 point lead for Naruto and it hasn’t been broken in these 24 hours.

This thread should be closed and the results applied as half of this thread is just repeated arguments that got milked to oblivion.
 
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It’s now 36 for Luffy to 40 for Naruto… and it’s been over 24 hours since an above 3 point lead for Naruto and it hasn’t been broken in these 24 hours.

This thread should be closed and the results applied as half of this thread is just repeated arguments that got milked to oblivion.
counted only 3 for naruto said Naruto only.

so score is 34-36
 
VSBW apparently:
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So I doubt my words will matter here anyways because I am not usually on this site and when I am i mostly stick to Nasuverse stuff which was its own mess until recently but I read every single page and argument posted and I am giving this to Naruto.
Respect to nasuverse supporters btw (that verse is goated and needs attention)
 
How about this

If this thread doesn’t reach a conclusion today, we’re taking the L and calling it incon, no endless dragging.
Or,
Start a fresh one where everyone actually has to justify their vote instead of just clicking buttons and disappearing.
i like the ladder

and we really need to do stuff about how FRAs are handled.
 
Truth is painful
I don’t think anyone's upset that you think it's a popularity contest - every big verse match up is often affected by the popularity of the verse and I think everyone knows that.

What people got annoyed by is the hypocrisy. Luffy was winning by large amounts at least twice purely off of popularity, and by a big amount too, and you weren't screaming popularity contest then. Only suddenly when Naruto is winning it became a popularity contest.

Me winning = great and fair!
You winning = it's just a popularity contest and your votes shouldn't even be counted!
 
I don’t think anyone's upset that you think it's a popularity contest - every big verse match up is often affected by the popularity of the verse and I think everyone knows that.

What people got annoyed by is the hypocrisy. Luffy was winning by large amounts at least twice purely off of popularity, and by a big amount too, and you weren't screaming popularity contest then. Only suddenly when Naruto is winning it became a popularity contest.

Me winning = great and fair!
You winning = it's just a popularity contest and your votes shouldn't even be counted!
I am just gonna say that I don't care who wins, in the past I would

And I literally said it when I was available, then I was busy the rest of the day and now I am available again
 
Ugh!!!!! Finally done with 34 pages worth of madness, but I might be even more insane cus I expected a NARUTO VS LUFFY thread to be not as long as this. Anyways I'm voting Naruto for the reasons stated by alternative, net and samplex basically. Naruto matches the accelerated development with sage chakra amps from clones, shunshin and boil and release, the explanation for chakra and haki being equalized has always been something I'd gone by even before this thread, Luffy while having future sight has never fought a 1000+ clones with stats rel to him before, I think saying "Naruto doing x or y isn't consistent in portrayal" is somewhat downplaying for me it's a freaking hypothetical after all.

So voting Naruto
 
Why is this still going? Grace for Naruto ended yesterday, everything beyond that point is null.
 
Why is this still going? Grace for Naruto ended yesterday, everything beyond that point is null.
Actually read the pages.

The grace was null due to a chunk of votes not fitting our standards and lacking reasons for the votes. There were a bunch of votes of people just saying "Naruto got it"
 
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