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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

ZERO7772 said:
The verse is STILL outdated? It's been long time since I checked the wiki and somehow Nasu verse still under revision?
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Yup, in fact, we're running with 1A revisions currently, Tier 0 Root thread passed. I dunno why the page hasn't been updated yet though. It's been about a year since the profiles were removed; unfortunately, a lot of time was wasted on Wankbreaker's antics.

We have all the scans to FSN and FHA, so I suppose it's up to CrimsumpSki whenever he wants to fix up the scans to the profile. I can work on them too if necessary.
I was only planning on doing Rin and Lancer initially, but it's aight.

I'm pretty sure the Avalon thread passed a while back, though.
 
Fair enough. Hope the profiles comes out better than ever.

How did the statement of Gill nuking Avalon even come to pass tho? The most arrogant man in history is telling you he can't do it. Couldn't get that 1-C rating without it huh?
 
Vietthai96 said:
You could make an account and not commenting, just observing, a lot of people doing it, i was one too back in the old days, i only start to comment after i get a hang of how the wiki work
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Ah, but it just so happens they start commenting when it came to a Nasuverse upgrade. Seems hella suspicious to me. Everytime there's something to say about Nasu upgrades/downgrades, all of a sudden, accounts with barely 5 comments and reactions start popping out of nowhere.
 
Mbpoops said:
Trust me ive been there tho in our case we also just suck at arguing lol

Does seem kinda weird how theres like 4-5 accs with less than 10 messages there
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If you see accounts like this, just report to the staff and ask for IP overlaps or try to pinpoint if their behavior and arguing style matches any prior banned members. Give them no time of day and just report.
 
And unless verse is made for powerscalers to glaze it also usually takes quite some time for any changes
 
What's smurf hax?

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Chat, do you think they swapped tactics to making alts to spam agree so they can damage the validation of the CRT instead of disagreeing?
 
Black-san112 said:
ANOTHER ACCOUNT JUST SHOWED UP HAHAHAHA
LIKE I AM SORRY THAT I ALWAYS BRING IT UP BUT ITS JUST SO FUNNY
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This time, it actually is a friend of mine lol if you're referring to CreatioExNihiro. I'm sure he'll read the tiering system eventually and be of great help to us in time. He's knowledgeable too in Type Moon lore, probably one of the best I know of from Beast's Lair, though I won't spill his identity. Do help him out if he has any questions with tiers and stuff.
 
Elesia011 said:
I just genuinely wonder what's the deal with the Nasuverse at this point. The fact that those against it have such poor documentation makes it tiresome, yet you really can't blame them given they aren't acting out of pure bad faith.
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Honestly its because Nasuverse has a ton of lore, like just being a casual fan is fine but taking the whole thing together and deeply analyzing it all just can't be rushed. People nowadays want instant gratification, and research takes time. So they'll just resort to "oh BB said 8D so the verse caps at 1-C", "Oh BB said lightspeed is impossible so sub-light cap", "Oh Da Vinci said planet level is impossible so they must be weak", "oh the Moon Cell is solar system sized so it cant be larger than that", etc.

The evidence and scans are all there. You just need to research and combine them all, and study the hax, power system, and cosmology of the verse. And for these people, that's a tall order. They want an answer now, so they rush things and have poor documentation and cherry pick stuff instead of looking at the whole picture and themes. R>F is a thing in Nasuverse if you really dig deep; but John Debunker won't bother looking through all of that.

And to think, Death Battle is doing Nasuverse and Kamen Rider... they'll either get some info missing because of time constraints, or delay it but have a detailed look for both. Good luck to them.
 
ShinyMagicalGirl said:
Honestly its because Nasuverse has a ton of lore, like just being a casual fan is fine but taking the whole thing together and deeply analyzing it all just can't be rushed. People nowadays want instant gratification, and research takes time. So they'll just resort to "oh BB said 8D so the verse caps at 1-C", "Oh BB said lightspeed is impossible so sub-light cap", "Oh Da Vinci said planet level is impossible so they must be weak", "oh the Moon Cell is solar system sized so it cant be larger than that", etc.

The evidence and scans are all there. You just need to research and combine them all, and study the hax, power system, and cosmology of the verse. And for these people, that's a tall order. They want an answer now, so they rush things and have poor documentation and cherry pick stuff instead of looking at the whole picture and themes. R>F is a thing in Nasuverse if you really dig deep; but John Debunker won't bother looking through all of that.

And to think, Death Battle is doing Nasuverse and Kamen Rider... they'll either get some info missing because of time constraints, or delay it but have a detailed look for both. Good luck to them.
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To be fair, I can slightly relate to that. At first, when I started Type-Moon stuff, I just thought it capped at universal level for everything outside extra verse influenced by the general opinion about the verse structure. It's over time and assembling various information that I could actually start glimpsing at the core of the story and the pattern of how different stories are arranged, including context for different terminologies, to realize Type was really far above universal. My only guess is that debunkers hasn't gone past that point yet, assuming we are speaking of individuals who actually follow the verse and argue in all fairness rather than follow another agenda.They are trapped in an invisible system that forces them into believing the Nasuverse is weak. Add to that, they won't permit themselves to admit they were reading everything all wrong all this time; instead, they would rather accuse others of being biased.

As you said, the Nasuverse is a universe that demands time to understand, and one should not assume to have understood everything after just one read, as I believe Nasu didn't write his story in such a way that reading once uncovers all mysteries or the grand picture. He made a puzzle for his fans to solve. The quality of your piece varies in accordance with the amount of previous data and terminologies of the verse you actually understood before engaging with the current story you are reading. In the end, you can provide three Nasuverse fans the same story on paper, but their minds are totally hooked on different stories.

Concerning Geats vs Nero, yeah, I have the feeling something will definitely be off, but let's wait and see.
 
ShinyMagicalGirl said:
Honestly its because Nasuverse has a ton of lore, like just being a casual fan is fine but taking the whole thing together and deeply analyzing it all just can't be rushed. People nowadays want instant gratification, and research takes time. So they'll just resort to "oh BB said 8D so the verse caps at 1-C", "Oh BB said lightspeed is impossible so sub-light cap", "Oh Da Vinci said planet level is impossible so they must be weak", "oh the Moon Cell is solar system sized so it cant be larger than that", etc.

The evidence and scans are all there. You just need to research and combine them all, and study the hax, power system, and cosmology of the verse. And for these people, that's a tall order. They want an answer now, so they rush things and have poor documentation and cherry pick stuff instead of looking at the whole picture and themes. R>F is a thing in Nasuverse if you really dig deep; but John Debunker won't bother looking through all of that.

And to think, Death Battle is doing Nasuverse and Kamen Rider... they'll either get some info missing because of time constraints, or delay it but have a detailed look for both. Good luck to them.
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To add a little to this

Type moon wiki kinda suck from time to time so if you wanna recheck something you have to go to that work again

Edit: also this verse suffer from bad tls so even checking work itself might be pain in ass
 
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ShinyMagicalGirl said:
And to think, Death Battle is doing Nasuverse and Kamen Rider... they'll either get some info missing because of time constraints, or delay it but have a detailed look for both. Good luck to them.
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Elesia011 said:
Concerning Geats vs Nero, yeah, I have the feeling something will definitely be off, but let's wait and see.
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They'll probably put Nero and Kamen Rider Geats at equal AP (whether that would be 8-D or outerversal, I don't know) and equal speed (probably immeasurable) and call it a day on stats, because explaining cosmology stuff to regular people in a video sounds really annoying.

They'll definitely research the cosmologies thoroughly, but keep most of the specifics to Q&A's and blogs.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle hax.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
They'll probably put Nero and Kamen Rider Geats at equal AP (whether that would be 8-D or outerversal, I don't know) and equal speed (probably immeasurable) and call it a day on stats, because explaining cosmology stuff to regular people in a video sounds really annoying.

They'll definitely research the cosmologies thoroughly, but keep most of the specifics to Q&A's and blogs.

It'll be interesting to see how they handle hax.
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They usually do this so there's the incentive of a DeathBattle in the first place. Speed is 100% getting equalised, not too hung up over the speed part though, since we more or less have speed equalisation here as well. I'm more worried about how they're going to handle the cosmology, given their reach; if they get something wrong, it'd be quite annoying to correct it later on to the masses out there with the same reach.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
They'll probably put Nero and Kamen Rider Geats at equal AP (whether that would be 8-D or outerversal, I don't know) and equal speed (probably immeasurable) and call it a day on stats, because explaining cosmology stuff to regular people in a video sounds really annoying.
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Does Nero scale to the 1-A stuff and R>F things though? She probably might with Saber Venus but I don't know if they'd use that form.

Also it'd be fun if they did a Simon vs Kyle thing where they explain qualitative dimensionality stuff but they probably dont need to, I can see them leaving them at Multi+ with black boxes mentioning higher dimensional stuff like they did with Yugi.
 
ShinMaximillion said:
They usually do this so there's the incentive of a DeathBattle in the first place. Speed is 100% getting equalised, not too hung up over the speed part though, since we more or less have speed equalisation here as well. I'm more worried about how they're going to handle the cosmology, given their reach; if they get something wrong, it'd be quite annoying to correct it later on to the masses out there with the same reach.
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Let's just hope these masses will be too lazy to make crts here
 
Mbpoops said:
Im mad because he has a model they just wont use it as a playable character 💔 rin (to my knowledge) isnt even a servant bro wtf is she doing here 😭😭😭
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Cu isnt playable bcs boothill slimed him in the trailer (somehow saber one shots aventurine with excalibur in same trailer but jobs in the actual quest)
 
Mbpoops said:
Oh they’re going down to 3-C/B the low 1-C was just chainscale slop but we removed it. We’re just waiting on a calc for blowing up galaxies 💔
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With how fast things on vsbw we can ignore this part (finally good thing about it)
 
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