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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread


New Thread for competition and matchup dates
 
Are there any Honkai Tier 1s who aren't 12D camping merchants?
 
phainon, mei, bronya, kevin, soon aeons durandal otto? (arguable but id just have to rewrite his page atp)
the only 12D merchant should be kiana (otto ascended tot he tree or smthn idek how thats supposed to work for HDE if it does at all) tbh aeons are wanker frauds i mean welt you could argue for alien space and ryusuke when i make his profile in 8 years
 
phainon, mei, bronya, kevin, soon aeons durandal otto? (arguable but id just have to rewrite his page atp)
I see. I'm looking for a match for Athena, and this was one of the only verses with 6 layers as well so I wanted to see my options.
 
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Why do lord ravengers have 6 layers of HE
 
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Why do lord ravengers have 6 layers of HE
Honest question / statement.
But layer 4 of Honkai energy comes from being Herrschers who can actually handle their herrscher cores right?

I don’t see why Ravagers wouldn’t at most be there by saying they’re supposed to be Herrscher equivalents. Or even layer 2.
Layer 6 is for those who resist the binding authority or scale to the PE Herrscher of finality which the Ravagers have no connection to.
 
the only 12D merchant should be kiana (otto ascended tot he tree or smthn idek how thats supposed to work for HDE if it does at all) tbh aeons are wanker frauds i mean welt you could argue for alien space and ryusuke when i make his profile in 8 years
Technically speaking only someone who is above SoQ or IT in their entirely is 12D… which uh, only applies to Cocoon. Everyone else is js 5D, or well 4D since noone scales to the temporal dimensions either.
 
Ik
But… it still doesn’t make sense(at least for me)
Unless I’m missing something🤨 (I don’t play HSR anymore, so…).
Hmm...🤔
I think he’s given highest degree cause Nanook is made out of Honkai itself
Or at least THEIR blood is.
And Nanook bestows powers upon THEIR Ravagers like how the Cocoon can create Herrschers and such.
How much this reasoning holds up to scrutiny idk.
 
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Why do lord ravengers have 6 layers of HE
I guinealy think, how exactly nanook and lord ravagers have honkai manipulation? Like Destruction path and Nanook are barely 3000 years olds, meanwhile cof and honkai already exist since 250 millions to 1 billions years ago
 
I guinealy think, how exactly nanook and lord ravagers have honkai manipulation? Like Destruction path and Nanook are barely 3000 years olds, meanwhile cof and honkai already exist since 250 millions to 1 billions years ago
Honkai energy is just Imaginary Internal Energy which exists within Imaginary Spaces; it is a type of energy capable of affecting the entropy of real systems, i.e the Real Internal Energy of 4-dimensional Space-Time (Real Space).

They have it, because fundamentally it is js Imaginary Energy. And because their power is derived from outside Real Space.
 
Honkai energy is just Imaginary Internal Energy which exists within Imaginary Spaces; it is a type of energy capable of affecting the entropy of real systems, i.e the Real Internal Energy of 4-dimensional Space-Time (Real Space).

They have it, because fundamentally it is js Imaginary Energy. And because their power is derived from outside Real Space.
If we apply this logic, ain't all aeons eventually have honkai manipulation, since you know... It's imaginary

Not to mentions that memokeeper stated if no aeons influences actually reach their solar systems as cof isolated their solar system.
 
If we apply this logic, ain't all aeons eventually have honkai manipulation, since you know... It's imaginary
They probably should at some point. I’m like 99% sure Aeons are just manifestations of the Honkai itself, it js hasn’t been explicitly told to us.
 
If we apply this logic, ain't all aeons eventually have honkai manipulation, since you know... It's imaginary

Not to mentions that memokeeper stated if no aeons influences actually reach their solar systems as cof isolated their solar system.
Tbf Xipe also has Honkai Energy due to the Stellaron
 
They probably should at some point. I’m like 99% sure Aeons are just manifestations of the Honkai itself, it js hasn’t been explicitly told to us.
If you ask me though, i would be in that 1%
I don't really think that they can be generalize tbh.
It's kinda like to say every aeons share each others abilities and properties just because they "imaginary". They (Aeons and CoF) sure use "imaginary", but only as basis, their output are totally different part of imaginary elements. Kinda like dr mara said if honkai/abyss was not pure energy of imaginary.

Honkai as far i understand only imaginary internal energy being filtered and projected to hi3 solar system under CoF dominion to embrace civilizations.

I recall that welt vn said if imaginary internal energy are important components of honkai energy, but schrodinger later mention after become honkai energy, they was independent to imaginary internal energy and negative entropy.
 
Honkai energy is just Imaginary Internal Energy which exists within Imaginary Spaces; it is a type of energy capable of affecting the entropy of real systems, i.e the Real Internal Energy of 4-dimensional Space-Time (Real Space).

They have it, because fundamentally it is js Imaginary Energy. And because their power is derived from outside Real Space.
Btw i dont mind them having honkai energy its the fact they have the “highest degree” and are comarable to the cocoon with no scans
 
I think he’s given highest degree cause Nanook is made out of Honkai itself
Or at least THEIR blood is.
And Nanook bestows powers upon THEIR Ravagers like how the Cocoon can create Herrschers and such.
How much this reasoning holds up to scrutiny idk.
It shouldnt be the highest degree because the cocoon, the mf origin, is also the highest degree. Herrschers are also pure honkai energy so all herrschers should have the highest degree then? (Wendy upscale)
 
It shouldnt be the highest degree because the cocoon, the mf origin, is also the highest degree. Herrschers are also pure honkai energy so all herrschers should have the highest degree then? (Wendy upscale)
Honestly that’s a fair point
Like Nanook may have to be nerfed to 4 layers (For being at least Herrscher level) and Ravagers have very little to gauge their layers on compared to HI3 so idk throw em at 2 layers at the most conservative. 4 layers if you wanna use Zephyro vs Welt to say Ravagers have the Honkai resistance on par with low tier Herrschers.

Btw i dont mind them having honkai energy its the fact they have the “highest degree” and are comarable to the cocoon with no scans
I second this; they’re objectively Honkai but there’s too little info to make a claim that bold
 
Honkai as far i understand only imaginary internal energy being filtered and projected to hi3 solar system under CoF dominion to embrace civilizations.
This is wrong, it’s explicitly just the internal energy of systems beyond 4-dimensional space-time. That’s fundamentally all it is.

Otherwise, the Tree wouldn’t have a pruning process if it were only relegated to a single leaf.
They (Aeons and CoF) sure use "imaginary", but only as basis, their output are totally different part of imaginary elements.
The part here is in reference to the philosophy they embody, not to the fundamental difference between their energy source.

I recall that welt vn said if imaginary internal energy are important components of honkai energy, but schrodinger later mention after become honkai energy, they was independent to imaginary internal energy and negative entropy
Do you have a translation to this?
 
This is wrong, it’s explicitly just the internal energy of systems beyond 4-dimensional space-time. That’s fundamentally all it is.

Otherwise, the Tree wouldn’t have a pruning process if it were only relegated to a single leaf.
I mean sure, they use the same fundamental thing, but how does we equates the entire its energy derivatives
Do you have a translation to this?
薛定谔:

......而负熵与虚数内能——也就是崩坏能——相伴相生。

理论上,我们确实可以反其道而行,利用可控的崩坏能来制造出新的“负熵”。
Schrödinger :
"...And negative entropy and imaginary internal energy—that is, Honkai energy—are interpendent. Schrödinger :
"Theoretically, we can indeed go against the natural order and use controllable Honkai energy to create new 'negative entropy'."
Lol nvm, my eyes slipped, i thought it said "independent" All this time, instead of "interpendent"
 
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