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The Sun God Nika vs The Six Paths Sage (Luffy vs Naruto).

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Durability negation that gap the whole fight? What does that even mean?
What gap? I'm being so serious. Luffy without Gear 5th is only 2x weaker at most. His wincons stay the exact same as Naruto's organs are still susceptible
 
Someone write down every wincon and every reason for both sides from a nonbiased standpoint, preferably the OP but whoever tbh

Luffy’s Win Conditions:


Internal durability negation leading to lethal damage (Ninja’s are susceptible to internal blows).

Superior speed and future sight leading to grabbing and crushing via vastly superior lifting strength.

Naruto’s Win Conditions:


Truth Seeking Orbs leading to existence erasure upon contact (no resistance to).

3x higher AP with strongest attack which can be stacked with a mass clone barrage assault.
 
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Durability negation that gap the whole fight? What does that even mean?
that he has durability negation that makes it a one sided fight for the entirety of the fight.

Naruto can't hurt Luffy with blunt force while every attack Luffy throws is hitting his organs.

We can all tell how a fight like that would go.
 
Alr what are the wincons so far?

Luffy’s Win Conditions:


Internal durability negation leading to lethal damage (Ninja’s are susceptible to internal blows).

Superior speed and future sight leading to grabbing and crushing via vastly superior lifting strength.

Naruto’s Win Conditions:


Truth Seeking Orbs leading to existence erasure upon contact (no resistance to).

3x higher AP with strongest attack which can be stacked with a mass clone barrage assault.
 
that he has durability negation that makes it a one sided fight for the entirety of the fight.

Naruto can't hurt Luffy with blunt force while every attack Luffy throws is hitting his organs.

We can all tell how a fight like that would go.
Naruto fights with a TSO staff, so that isn't an issue
 

Luffy’s Win Conditions:


Internal durability negation leading to lethal damage (Ninja’s are susceptible to internal blows).

Superior speed and future sight leading to grabbing and crushing via vastly superior lifting strength.

Naruto’s Win Conditions:


Truth Seeking Orbs leading to existence erasure upon contact (no resistance to).

3x higher AP with strongest attack which can be stacked with a mass clone barrage assault.
I'm seeing that that bs energy equalization was scrapped so that's fair

So Luffy
1. 3 Dura neg opportunities with high damage
2. Faster
3. Higher lifting strength

So Naruto
1. Existence erasure orbs
2. AP diff
3. Massive clone barrage assault

For the Luffy people
I understand Luffy has good senses and intuition that has allowed him to deduce individuals out of clones + his luck, but how does he manage to fight all the clones?

For the Naruto people
TSO is definitely an easy wincon, but is Naruto willing to kill somebody in a bout who isn't resistant, and how is he getting past the buso barrier?
 
Alr what are the wincons so far?

Luffy’s Win Conditions:


Internal durability negation leading to lethal damage (Ninja’s are susceptible to internal blows).

Superior speed and future sight leading to grabbing and crushing via vastly superior lifting strength.

Naruto’s Win Conditions:


Truth Seeking Orbs leading to existence erasure upon contact (no resistance to).

3-6x higher AP with strongest attack which can be stacked with a mass clone barrage assault.
I'm seeing that that bs energy equalization was scrapped so that's fair

So Luffy
1. 3 Dura neg opportunities with high damage
2. Faster
3. Higher lifting strength

So Naruto
1. Existence erasure orbs
2. AP diff
3. Massive clone barrage assault

For the Luffy people
I understand Luffy has good senses and intuition that has allowed him to deduce individuals out of clones + his luck, but how does he manage to fight all the clones?

For the Naruto people
TSO is definitely an easy wincon, but is Naruto willing to kill somebody in a bout who isn't resistant, and how is he getting past the buso barrier?
 
I can’t tell if Naruto’s 356 AP value is from the Susanoo cloak or not from the profile.


If not there should be a correction in the OP as Naruto would have a 3x AP difference instead of 6x.
 
chakra is created from the components of stamina which comes from physical and mental energy (chapter 90). those components are called "chakra".
those components are a natural order of things. the combined energy is not.

He taught a way for them to link each other's brains.

Which is why throughout naruto people connected on the spiritual realm through combat and through fist bumps.

this is completely separate from saying that chakra completely lacks physical energy. That's going against canon
As a mental utilization, it is a created energy… as you even said comprised from one’s soul, mind and such
If only slayer dropped that mythical Chakra blog. 😞

Can’t convince you all about this so imma let this side quest die out
Conqueror's Haki or eating them in giant form.
that just makes nard more able to spam dura neg abilities and destroy his internal organs
 
this... isn't an understatement tbh
luffy has eaten some shit bro
it was originally supposed to be a joke but shit, a thousand clones is like 10 giant elephants in weight, and each can make more when they get in.
 
Naruto has experience in dealing with enemies who've eaten him whole.

Luffy will be in a bit of trouble if Naruto spawns a thousand clones in his gut, or starts creating Rasenshuriken and Biju Bombs inside of him.
Luffy can stretch bro
Nard has acid and corrosive resistance,
Plus even if one clone survives, that clone will make more clones and spam abilities
If they create a rasenshuriken inside his body they will all die bro
 
it was originally supposed to be a joke but shit, a thousand clones is like 10 giant elephants in weight.
Luffy at the brink of death btw
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it was originally supposed to be a joke but shit, a thousand clones is like 10 giant elephants in weight, and each can make more when they get in.
I PROMISE you bro however much food you think Naruto clones are worth in ramen….

Luffy can eat it.
 
Nah nard cloak allows him to survive rasenshurikens and he can Let other clones do abilities while some hide as not to disperse
Naruto's cloak lets him survive the residual energy from rasenshurikens
If Naruto's clones are packed like sardines inside of Luffy's stomach and they spawn rasenshurikens millimeters away they are dying bro.

Come on now
 
Luffy has eaten lasers bro these mfs aren't hurting him inside when they're getting digested
 
And before the incoming shadow clone durability glazing cavalry come marching in, keep in mind that Gear 5th and Naruto already have relative durability. Shadow clones who are less durable than Naruto are not surviving a massively amped giant Luffy.
 
They have too little durability to survive getting eaten by a giant Luffy.
Luffy has eaten lasers bro these mfs aren't hurting him inside when they're getting digested
I will remind you all that nards clones went head to head with Madara limbo clones who are perfect clones. So he can take a hit or two.

I also don’t understand the laser point. Like he ate a laser, ok?
 
I will remind you all that nards clones went head to head with Madara limbo clones who are perfect clones. So he can take a hit or two.

I also don’t understand the laser point. Like he ate a laser, ok?
And before the incoming shadow clone durability glazing cavalry come marching in, keep in mind that Gear 5th and Naruto already have relative durability. Shadow clones who are less durable than Naruto are not surviving a massively amped giant Luffy.
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